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Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
January 06 2012 06:08 GMT
#3721
Sorry that I'm not going to look throught the 186 pages of this thread to learn this too (did that for the IdrA Fanclub... yeah), but I'm looking to get either SF4 for the PS3 or SSF4, is SSF4 pretty much a port with more characters and 2 ultras rather than 1 or should I start with SF4 and then go for SSF4?
"HotBid [11:45 AM]: i dunno i kinda like the big muta shooting smaller mutas out"
aphorism
Profile Joined February 2011
United States226 Posts
January 06 2012 06:20 GMT
#3722
On January 06 2012 15:08 Antimatterz wrote:
Sorry that I'm not going to look throught the 186 pages of this thread to learn this too (did that for the IdrA Fanclub... yeah), but I'm looking to get either SF4 for the PS3 or SSF4, is SSF4 pretty much a port with more characters and 2 ultras rather than 1 or should I start with SF4 and then go for SSF4?


There are four versions of SF4, in chronological order: Vanilla, Super, Arcade Edition, and AE 2012. Vanilla, Super, and AE are standalone games, and AE 2012 is a free balance patch for AE.

Each newer version adds new characters and balance changes, so you should get Arcade Edition if you can.
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 07:00:33
January 06 2012 06:56 GMT
#3723
Heres a handy diagram showing the different home versions


You shouldn't bother with anything but getting the latest version as the older versions are pretty much abandoned player-wise.
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
ShoKakuUtena
Profile Joined May 2011
United States304 Posts
January 06 2012 07:17 GMT
#3724
On January 06 2012 15:20 aphorism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 15:08 Antimatterz wrote:
Sorry that I'm not going to look throught the 186 pages of this thread to learn this too (did that for the IdrA Fanclub... yeah), but I'm looking to get either SF4 for the PS3 or SSF4, is SSF4 pretty much a port with more characters and 2 ultras rather than 1 or should I start with SF4 and then go for SSF4?


There are four versions of SF4, in chronological order: Vanilla, Super, Arcade Edition, and AE 2012. Vanilla, Super, and AE are standalone games, and AE 2012 is a free balance patch for AE.

Each newer version adds new characters and balance changes, so you should get Arcade Edition if you can.


There's no point really starting with Vanilla SF4 as some characters had some changes going to SSF4. (i.e. Guile's charge time decreased to 1 sec. from 2 sec.) But yeah, you could find the latest disc (Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition) on Amazon for around $30, (Orig. price $40 I think) and with the latest update (AE 2012) the game is probably the most balanced of the versions compared to its two previous iterations, so you could go crazy with most of the cast.
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Kojak21
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1104 Posts
January 06 2012 09:32 GMT
#3725
does no one play this game on xbox? cause i cant find anyone
¯\_(☺)_/¯
MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 18:38:14
January 06 2012 18:22 GMT
#3726
On January 06 2012 07:57 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 06:38 MiyaviTeddy wrote:
On January 06 2012 03:51 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On January 06 2012 03:26 MiyaviTeddy wrote:
On January 06 2012 02:46 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On January 05 2012 10:49 MiyaviTeddy wrote:
On January 04 2012 10:23 sung_moon wrote:
On January 03 2012 13:56 MiyaviTeddy wrote:
There's a XBL SRK stream that runs 24/7 I think? find the room, get in, get streamed ._.

anyone down to play some games on XBL? I got my qanba Q4 last week ^_^


raf? how much did you end up paying?


Yeah the Qanba Q4RAF. It amounts to $200 ($130 for the actual stick, $70 for shipping). I got it from play-asia, it's better if you buy alot of stuff altogether at play-asia cause of shipping :\ worth the money though

Excab when do you usually play?


I rarely ever play on XBL ever since I got the PC version, but with 2012 PC delayed I played a bit over the holiday break. I suppose if I'm gonna continue to play it will be on Saturdays. I also play locally at work everyday during lunch.


Yeah, same. We should play sometime (and streaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam)


I basically refuse to stream SF4 now for two reasons:

- DXTory, the program I use to capture the game at the DirectX level and therefore cause minimal impact on performance, doesn't work correctly on fullscreen games. In SC2 and Dota2 I'm able to capture in windowed fullscreen (aka borderless window at max resolution) at 60 fps.
- SF4 doesn't support windowed mode properly and there are random frame drops. Hell, to even get windowed mode you have to use the Windows shortcut Alt+Enter! When trying to play online (or even just in training mode) this is an absolute killer. I streamed my online ranked matches for one night and it cost me enough matches to make me never want to do it again.

I haven't tried the new Xsplit (which can capture fullscreen but was only getting like 15 fps a few versions ago) but maybe it's better?


I'm using Xsplit currently and Dxtory together (there's some TL guide for it somewhere, I can look for it?) but I don't know how to achieve streams like Team spookys (360/480p but buttery smooth as hell). I could proooobably screw around with xsplit alone for SF4 PC.


Yeah, I followed that guide (which owns by the way, and was the reason I found out about DXtory). Streaming in windowed mode never slowed you down at all? I don't have a purchase account for Xsplit so I can't test the GameSource function, but maybe that would work better?


It works well (under the settings I'm using) but in-game, I'm not hitting the 60fps (close to it, maybe 55?) so using game source on SF4 does take its toll :\ I'm using an i5-2500k so it's decent. You're using an i7 right? I think you'll fare better then I do.

I'm trying to get DXTory to work with SF4 but it won't show up. period.
Aiyeeeee
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
January 06 2012 18:24 GMT
#3727
On January 06 2012 18:32 Kojak21 wrote:
does no one play this game on xbox? cause i cant find anyone


Tons of people play AE2012 on live, if you can't find games there's something wrong on your end. Also never search "same" region, use "any" and pick the best connections.
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
January 06 2012 18:53 GMT
#3728
I think searching for same region is fine if your CA or US, its if you're european that it sucks dick, as it looks for people only in your country, not the continent
Incognitodies
Profile Joined April 2008
United Kingdom184 Posts
January 06 2012 19:52 GMT
#3729
On January 06 2012 15:56 pachi wrote:
Heres a handy diagram showing the different home versions

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You shouldn't bother with anything but getting the latest version as the older versions are pretty much abandoned player-wise.

Fixed
MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 00:31:52
January 07 2012 00:31 GMT
#3730
Excal, I manage to get DXtory working for SSF4 AE PC (don't know how, it just suddenly works!).

And this is one of the results:

http://www.twitch.tv/myvteddy/b/304728294
Aiyeeeee
Kojak21
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1104 Posts
January 07 2012 00:44 GMT
#3731
do more people play this game on the pc, if so how much more?
¯\_(☺)_/¯
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 01:39:15
January 07 2012 01:18 GMT
#3732
On January 07 2012 09:44 Kojak21 wrote:
do more people play this game on the pc, if so how much more?


i think the pc and 360 playerbase is about the same, although generally the players on 360 are better.


edit: on a completely unrelated note, i tried to play some ae on pc with a nintendo 64 pad today, turned out to be quite hard.
Team NSHoseo <3
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
January 07 2012 01:27 GMT
#3733
On January 07 2012 10:18 Azuroz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 09:44 Kojak21 wrote:
do more people play this game on the pc, if so how much more?


i think the pc and 360 playerbase is about the same, although generally the players on 360 are better.


PSN playerbase is best Kappa
Fan of the Jangbanger
MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
January 07 2012 02:02 GMT
#3734
I run into better players on the 360 side imho and I play on both consoles. Can't speak for PC yet til 2012 hits
Aiyeeeee
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
January 07 2012 11:40 GMT
#3735
Hi guys I just bought SSF4ae for pc.I am new to fighting games and I am playing with ibuki right now.I want to be competitve online player.Any advice to how to improve fastest?
日本語が上手ですね
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 18:08:32
January 07 2012 18:05 GMT
#3736
On January 07 2012 20:40 Silentenigma wrote:
Hi guys I just bought SSF4ae for pc.I am new to fighting games and I am playing with ibuki right now.I want to be competitve online player.Any advice to how to improve fastest?


Check out this video tutorial series. The challenge/trial mode is ok for learning basic execution, keep in mind that the trial mode is an older version of the game so some of the combos cant be done in ae. check out the shoryuken.com character specific forum for your character, keep in mind that most of the stuff there are usually quite advanced though.

this page explains the basic terminology used within fighting games if you get confused by some of the words.
Team NSHoseo <3
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
January 07 2012 18:15 GMT
#3737
When did Daigo switch to Akuma? Loving his play so far
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
January 07 2012 18:31 GMT
#3738
On January 08 2012 03:15 Dante08 wrote:
When did Daigo switch to Akuma? Loving his play so far


He played akuma a month or two ago at nagoya street battle, he's playing ryu again though.
Team NSHoseo <3
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
January 07 2012 23:21 GMT
#3739
On January 08 2012 03:05 Azuroz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 20:40 Silentenigma wrote:
Hi guys I just bought SSF4ae for pc.I am new to fighting games and I am playing with ibuki right now.I want to be competitve online player.Any advice to how to improve fastest?


Check out this video tutorial series. The challenge/trial mode is ok for learning basic execution, keep in mind that the trial mode is an older version of the game so some of the combos cant be done in ae. check out the shoryuken.com character specific forum for your character, keep in mind that most of the stuff there are usually quite advanced though.

this page explains the basic terminology used within fighting games if you get confused by some of the words.

Thanks I am watching right now.
日本語が上手ですね
MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 03:21:47
January 08 2012 03:18 GMT
#3740
If anything, it's highly recommended to acquire an arcade stick. A good stick you can most likely acquire is an Madcatz TE stick (any kind) for whichever platform you own. They're usually $150 but if you look around for a bit, you could probably find deals on the new sticks or the old round 1 sticks (the very first model of the TE stick). That alone should get you going.

Although if you're really keen on using pad of whatever choice you want, go for it. A lot of poeple tend to use arcade sticks over pad controllers but that doesn't mean pad is obsolete. Work on what you have and you can go pretty far. I'm a stick player in street fighter 4 but when it comes to Tekken, I play MUCH MUCH more superior on pad due to +6 years of like pad experience versus an arcade stick for me.

Or look at Fanatiq in UMVC3. motherfucker uses a 360 pad (WHICH IS REGARDED TO BE GARBAGE BY MANY) but he made it work. Just a thought.

--

Gameplay wise, if you're really new just learn the basics and the fundamentals:

Movement
-Forward and Backward movement
-Forward/Back Dash
-Jumps

Attacks:
-normal moves
-unique moves
-special moves
-EX moves
-ultra & supers.
throw and command throw

Defense:
-Difference between blocking high and low
-Crossover defense (when an attack hits you from behind instead of front).
-Throw break (tech is another word for throw break.)

Mechanics:
-Meter
-Super/Ultra meter
-Focus Attack
-Damage scale. http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2009/may/09/how-combo-and-damage-scaling-works-street-fighter-iv/

This is basically what you should know. Most of it is incredibly easy to learn so don't feel pressured. Plus, my advice is to just pick a character (ibuki for this case) and just fuck around.

Explore. Learn. In training mode. If you're looking for guides on how to play better and whatnot, that's fine we can help you with that but again, imho you get more if you play around with most of the characters until you get that "oh I like this guy" and stick with it.
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