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Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-08 05:52:38
January 08 2012 04:58 GMT
#3741
meh just ran in to f-word on xbox live at 6 in the morning, makes me realize how much i still have to learn :<.

now back to fighting the never ending pool of dp mashing evil ryu's and oni's.
Team NSHoseo <3
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
January 08 2012 23:07 GMT
#3742
Does anyone play some endless battles on PS3 right now? If so add me KingKosi
Twitter: @KingKosi
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
January 09 2012 00:41 GMT
#3743
On January 08 2012 12:18 MiyaviTeddy wrote:
If anything, it's highly recommended to acquire an arcade stick. A good stick you can most likely acquire is an Madcatz TE stick (any kind) for whichever platform you own. They're usually $150 but if you look around for a bit, you could probably find deals on the new sticks or the old round 1 sticks (the very first model of the TE stick). That alone should get you going.

Although if you're really keen on using pad of whatever choice you want, go for it. A lot of poeple tend to use arcade sticks over pad controllers but that doesn't mean pad is obsolete. Work on what you have and you can go pretty far. I'm a stick player in street fighter 4 but when it comes to Tekken, I play MUCH MUCH more superior on pad due to +6 years of like pad experience versus an arcade stick for me.

Or look at Fanatiq in UMVC3. motherfucker uses a 360 pad (WHICH IS REGARDED TO BE GARBAGE BY MANY) but he made it work. Just a thought.

--

Gameplay wise, if you're really new just learn the basics and the fundamentals:

Movement
-Forward and Backward movement
-Forward/Back Dash
-Jumps

Attacks:
-normal moves
-unique moves
-special moves
-EX moves
-ultra & supers.
throw and command throw

Defense:
-Difference between blocking high and low
-Crossover defense (when an attack hits you from behind instead of front).
-Throw break (tech is another word for throw break.)

Mechanics:
-Meter
-Super/Ultra meter
-Focus Attack
-Damage scale. http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2009/may/09/how-combo-and-damage-scaling-works-street-fighter-iv/

This is basically what you should know. Most of it is incredibly easy to learn so don't feel pressured. Plus, my advice is to just pick a character (ibuki for this case) and just fuck around.

Explore. Learn. In training mode. If you're looking for guides on how to play better and whatnot, that's fine we can help you with that but again, imho you get more if you play around with most of the characters until you get that "oh I like this guy" and stick with it.

Well I played SF4 a bit.I played with most of characters with my friends.I really liked ibuki and I am practicing with her a lot.I know most of game mechanics already from sf4.

I have a cheap/bad arcade stick.I am still trying to get used to it.If I can improve myself a lot I will reward myself with a good arcade stick.

I can do ibuki Target combos and and her BnB s in training mode.I am studying her kunai setups now.But When I play versus computer or person I cant execute her combos most of time.I also have problems comboing into her ultra2.I cant do super jump cancels properly.What is the easiest way to combo into her ultra?

日本語が上手ですね
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 09 2012 00:45 GMT
#3744
I can't do her main ultra whatsoever. It's fucking possible, I think its because of the keyboard, but I can pop her ultra 2 ezpz
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
January 09 2012 00:45 GMT
#3745
yo

so i've been playing cammy pretty much SOLELY against my friend (who mains sakura)
this is great but now i don't really know where i stand in terms of everyone else
and there aren't really many australian games going on so

anyone wanna play? xbl or pc
lalala
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
January 09 2012 00:54 GMT
#3746
On January 09 2012 09:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't do her main ultra whatsoever. It's fucking possible, I think its because of the keyboard, but I can pop her ultra 2 ezpz

Well I can execute her ultras with no problem but I cant combo into her ultra like (Cl. LP xx MP xx HP SJC Ultra II)
I want to know the easiest way to SJC into ultra 2.
日本語が上手ですね
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 01:19:31
January 09 2012 01:09 GMT
#3747
On January 09 2012 09:54 Silentenigma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 09:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't do her main ultra whatsoever. It's fucking possible, I think its because of the keyboard, but I can pop her ultra 2 ezpz

Well I can execute her ultras with no problem but I cant combo into her ultra like (Cl. LP xx MP xx HP SJC Ultra II)
I want to know the easiest way to SJC into ultra 2.


when i messed around in training mode with ibuki i found this one to be quite easy. s.lk qcf s.mk sjc ultra 2 , basically you buffer half of the ultra motion between standing lk and standing forward and then go from down to up forward + kkk after you input standing mk.
Remember that it has to be done quite rapidly as its a target combo essentially, however dont input KKK before you reach up forward on the stick.

it does 398 damage, compared to 417 from the one you mentioned, but if you input it more consistently it might be worth using untill your execution improves.
Team NSHoseo <3
Shraft
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden701 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 01:12:28
January 09 2012 01:11 GMT
#3748
On January 09 2012 09:54 Silentenigma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 09:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't do her main ultra whatsoever. It's fucking possible, I think its because of the keyboard, but I can pop her ultra 2 ezpz

Well I can execute her ultras with no problem but I cant combo into her ultra like (Cl. LP xx MP xx HP SJC Ultra II)
I want to know the easiest way to SJC into ultra 2.

I think the most common way is to do s.lp, s.mp, then hadouken motion (d, df, f) + s.hp and then doing d, df, f, uf + three kicks after the hp connects.
Imagist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia484 Posts
January 09 2012 01:13 GMT
#3749
On January 09 2012 09:45 youngminii wrote:
yo

so i've been playing cammy pretty much SOLELY against my friend (who mains sakura)
this is great but now i don't really know where i stand in terms of everyone else
and there aren't really many australian games going on so

anyone wanna play? xbl or pc


Add me on PC, MikeTheTV99
I enjoy Starcraft when I'm not too busy being dynamic and attractive.
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
January 09 2012 01:48 GMT
#3750
On January 09 2012 10:11 Shraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 09:54 Silentenigma wrote:
On January 09 2012 09:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't do her main ultra whatsoever. It's fucking possible, I think its because of the keyboard, but I can pop her ultra 2 ezpz

Well I can execute her ultras with no problem but I cant combo into her ultra like (Cl. LP xx MP xx HP SJC Ultra II)
I want to know the easiest way to SJC into ultra 2.

I think the most common way is to do s.lp, s.mp, then hadouken motion (d, df, f) + s.hp and then doing d, df, f, uf + three kicks after the hp connects.

When i do that i get dragon punch(kazegiri) at the end
日本語が上手ですね
Shraft
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden701 Posts
January 09 2012 02:29 GMT
#3751
On January 09 2012 10:48 Silentenigma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 10:11 Shraft wrote:
On January 09 2012 09:54 Silentenigma wrote:
On January 09 2012 09:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't do her main ultra whatsoever. It's fucking possible, I think its because of the keyboard, but I can pop her ultra 2 ezpz

Well I can execute her ultras with no problem but I cant combo into her ultra like (Cl. LP xx MP xx HP SJC Ultra II)
I want to know the easiest way to SJC into ultra 2.

I think the most common way is to do s.lp, s.mp, then hadouken motion (d, df, f) + s.hp and then doing d, df, f, uf + three kicks after the hp connects.

When i do that i get dragon punch(kazegiri) at the end


Try switching the hadouken and the d, df, f, du movement around (doing the hadouken movement last) or adjust your timing. I read on the srk forums that if you're getting kazegiri you're pressing it too fast (then again your inputs may be wrong so it's not necessarily the timing).
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
January 09 2012 02:41 GMT
#3752
On January 09 2012 10:48 Silentenigma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 10:11 Shraft wrote:
On January 09 2012 09:54 Silentenigma wrote:
On January 09 2012 09:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't do her main ultra whatsoever. It's fucking possible, I think its because of the keyboard, but I can pop her ultra 2 ezpz

Well I can execute her ultras with no problem but I cant combo into her ultra like (Cl. LP xx MP xx HP SJC Ultra II)
I want to know the easiest way to SJC into ultra 2.

I think the most common way is to do s.lp, s.mp, then hadouken motion (d, df, f) + s.hp and then doing d, df, f, uf + three kicks after the hp connects.

When i do that i get dragon punch(kazegiri) at the end


its your timing, the 3 kick input for the ultra needs to be a bit delayed as your character needs to start up the super jump for you to cancel out of it, if you get the dp you are doing it too fast as mentioned above.
Team NSHoseo <3
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 03:02:00
January 09 2012 02:56 GMT
#3753
On January 09 2012 11:41 Azuroz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 10:48 Silentenigma wrote:
On January 09 2012 10:11 Shraft wrote:
On January 09 2012 09:54 Silentenigma wrote:
On January 09 2012 09:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't do her main ultra whatsoever. It's fucking possible, I think its because of the keyboard, but I can pop her ultra 2 ezpz

Well I can execute her ultras with no problem but I cant combo into her ultra like (Cl. LP xx MP xx HP SJC Ultra II)
I want to know the easiest way to SJC into ultra 2.

I think the most common way is to do s.lp, s.mp, then hadouken motion (d, df, f) + s.hp and then doing d, df, f, uf + three kicks after the hp connects.

When i do that i get dragon punch(kazegiri) at the end


its your timing, the 3 kick input for the ultra needs to be a bit delayed as your character needs to start up the super jump for you to cancel out of it, if you get the dp you are doing it too fast as mentioned above.

Thank you guys I can pull it off now.What worked me is LP MP hadoken HP hadoken UP 3 kicks
日本語が上手ですね
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
January 09 2012 06:44 GMT
#3754
On January 09 2012 09:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't do her main ultra whatsoever. It's fucking possible, I think its because of the keyboard, but I can pop her ultra 2 ezpz


That's because all the half-circle ultras have to be EXACT in their inputs. That's somewhat ironic given that you're on a keyboard which means your inputs are all digital. Are you still having problems after AE 2012? Supposedly the inputs for all the half-circle ultras were made more lenient (so if you end on up-back instead of back it still counts, for example).
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 09 2012 07:03 GMT
#3755
On January 09 2012 15:44 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 09:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't do her main ultra whatsoever. It's fucking possible, I think its because of the keyboard, but I can pop her ultra 2 ezpz


That's because all the half-circle ultras have to be EXACT in their inputs. That's somewhat ironic given that you're on a keyboard which means your inputs are all digital. Are you still having problems after AE 2012? Supposedly the inputs for all the half-circle ultras were made more lenient (so if you end on up-back instead of back it still counts, for example).


2011, PC has no 2012 update I believe, right?

What generally happens is that if you do Left, down, right consecutively, it doesn't register. You literally, have to let go of one key before you do the next and the one after (which is a bit a change of pace when you're comboing and shit).
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
January 09 2012 07:23 GMT
#3756
On January 09 2012 15:44 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 09:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't do her main ultra whatsoever. It's fucking possible, I think its because of the keyboard, but I can pop her ultra 2 ezpz


That's because all the half-circle ultras have to be EXACT in their inputs. That's somewhat ironic given that you're on a keyboard which means your inputs are all digital. Are you still having problems after AE 2012? Supposedly the inputs for all the half-circle ultras were made more lenient (so if you end on up-back instead of back it still counts, for example).


HCF ultras are easy to do on keyboard you just roll you fingers ASDASD or whatever your keys are.

On January 09 2012 16:03 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 15:44 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On January 09 2012 09:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't do her main ultra whatsoever. It's fucking possible, I think its because of the keyboard, but I can pop her ultra 2 ezpz


That's because all the half-circle ultras have to be EXACT in their inputs. That's somewhat ironic given that you're on a keyboard which means your inputs are all digital. Are you still having problems after AE 2012? Supposedly the inputs for all the half-circle ultras were made more lenient (so if you end on up-back instead of back it still counts, for example).


2011, PC has no 2012 update I believe, right?

What generally happens is that if you do Left, down, right consecutively, it doesn't register. You literally, have to let go of one key before you do the next and the one after (which is a bit a change of pace when you're comboing and shit).

2012 will come out like next month they claim. And no, its not Back, Down, Forward, its B, BD, D, DF, F, once again if you just roll your fingers across the keys twice its pretty instant, its a really easy command to do. The pain int he ass on keyboard is doing 360/720's
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
January 09 2012 07:40 GMT
#3757
On January 09 2012 16:03 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 15:44 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On January 09 2012 09:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
I can't do her main ultra whatsoever. It's fucking possible, I think its because of the keyboard, but I can pop her ultra 2 ezpz


That's because all the half-circle ultras have to be EXACT in their inputs. That's somewhat ironic given that you're on a keyboard which means your inputs are all digital. Are you still having problems after AE 2012? Supposedly the inputs for all the half-circle ultras were made more lenient (so if you end on up-back instead of back it still counts, for example).


2011, PC has no 2012 update I believe, right?

What generally happens is that if you do Left, down, right consecutively, it doesn't register. You literally, have to let go of one key before you do the next and the one after (which is a bit a change of pace when you're comboing and shit).


Oh right, forgot 2012 isn't out for PC yet :V
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 09 2012 07:59 GMT
#3758
Yeah shit sucks. I'll be going to the Arcade regularly now. I have a good 3 to 4 hour break between my two classes, so I'm definitely going there and practice (and it's in the daytime which means less university kids because they're working or in-class).

Which means I'll get help from the guys ;D! They're even following me on Twitter, so I can talk to them!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
January 09 2012 11:31 GMT
#3759
Hi guys can someone tell me where can I find latest tier list?(preferably 2012).
日本語が上手ですね
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
January 09 2012 11:55 GMT
#3760
On January 09 2012 20:31 Silentenigma wrote:
Hi guys can someone tell me where can I find latest tier list?(preferably 2012).


people are still figuring out the tiers, it takes a little bit to get tiers
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