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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 17:20:02
June 09 2011 23:54 GMT
#161
Yeah, as I said, I ran out of scrolls of town portal. I've done iron maiden with a golem really well with a necro before, good advice.

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Mephisto was always the weakest of the prime evils.

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Hey Diablo, you're losing a lot of blood. Are you sure you don't want to see a doctor?


I got my first unique weapon of the game from diablo just now.


Curious. Does anyone actually know the whole storyline of Diablo 2?
It started with Izual. He led an attack on the hellforge to prevent some swrod from being made. He lost a really good sword, azurewrath in the process, and was tortured until he told the prime evils about the soulstones and how to use them. Then the prime evils asked Azmodeus, Belial, Andariel, and Duriel to stage an uprising in which the prime evils were said to have killed a third of the demons in hell.

The Prime Evils were sent to the mortal realm and all captured in soulstones. They wanted this to happen, because the soulstones could help them let their powers go through better into the mortal realm. You see a long time ago, the humans were the offspring of some angels and demons (The demon Lilith in particular). The humans were really really strong... like terran overpowered strong!

So then the angels made a worldstone that would limit their strength and make them weaker each generation. The angels and demons couldn't send their full strength into the world after the worldstone was created though.

In diablo 2, the prime evils were all defeated, but Ba'al corrupted the worldstone so Tyrael destroyed it. Now the humans are supposed to be getting stronger, and demons and angels can flood into the world if they want to. The angels probably won't though. In addition, when the worldstone was destroyed, the writers of the diablo storyline were all crippled with a curse that made them stupid.

For no apparent reasons, the demons stop fighting for twenty years.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 11 2011 03:36 GMT
#162
The demons stop fighting or the angels keep them busy and prevent them from invading Sanctuary, or both sides are too busy trying to recruit them to their respective sides. Assuming the world stone being destroyed means the "humans" get their powers back, the side that has the humans would instantly win the war for heaven and hell. If there's some hero that slayed Ba'al, Diablo, Mephisto, Duriel, and Andariel I wouldn't be first in line for the invasion anyways ^_^

The transition/prelude to Diablo 2 is far harder to keep track of. Probably be easier to just wait for the Diablo Lore series to finish, but from what I remember after slaying diablo in the first game the hero puts diablo's soulstone into his forehead. He's trying to contain diablo, but instead he becomes corrupted and diablo steals his soul/body. He releases ba'al from the tomb of tal rasha and then seeks out mephisto. I'm not sure how Andariel fits into any of the story at all besides the monastery being overtaken by her and it "blocking the way east."

Not even gonna try to remember the storyline from the first game. Bunch of crazy people in that one. Feel free to correct anything I've left out or whatever.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 12 2011 06:39 GMT
#163
On June 11 2011 12:36 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The demons stop fighting or the angels keep them busy and prevent them from invading Sanctuary, or both sides are too busy trying to recruit them to their respective sides. Assuming the world stone being destroyed means the "humans" get their powers back, the side that has the humans would instantly win the war for heaven and hell. If there's some hero that slayed Ba'al, Diablo, Mephisto, Duriel, and Andariel I wouldn't be first in line for the invasion anyways ^_^

I don't think the angels did any recruiting though, I mean most people would gladly side with the high heavens over the demonic powers given the chance. The angels just don't like to do anything, which is fine since if they did, then diablo would be quite a silly game. Who wants to fight as a human in the back lines while watching angels kill everything?

Yes there is a hero that killed all the prime evils, but that hero is only going to get stronger over the course of twenty years. Of all the heroes in the game, only the barbarian looks old enough that he might not survive another twenty years. I don't like the fact that the demons haven't done anything to sanctuary. The writers could at least make up some story like "it takes time to gather enough soul power to revive the prime evils." Anything is better than "let's wait twenty years until all the humans, that will surely side with the angels, grow stronger.



I'm afraid that Diablo 3's story will go the same way as WOW's. Most people will refuse to acknowledge it as canon because it's too stupid.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
June 12 2011 07:04 GMT
#164
just installed D2 lol xD

playing assassin atm.first unique i've got was from act1 nightmare (can you believe that...) and it was a unique composite bow.

no cheats, no edit and playing at players set at 8. kinda fun and love the stat/skill reset from Akara xD


p.s. seems like Blizzard fixed runes drop rate, much easier to find runes (at least than way back then)
rave[wcr] wrote: wtf how can erik understand kelly, its like han solo and chewabacca overthere.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 12 2011 16:20 GMT
#165
On June 12 2011 15:39 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 12:36 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The demons stop fighting or the angels keep them busy and prevent them from invading Sanctuary, or both sides are too busy trying to recruit them to their respective sides. Assuming the world stone being destroyed means the "humans" get their powers back, the side that has the humans would instantly win the war for heaven and hell. If there's some hero that slayed Ba'al, Diablo, Mephisto, Duriel, and Andariel I wouldn't be first in line for the invasion anyways ^_^

I don't think the angels did any recruiting though, I mean most people would gladly side with the high heavens over the demonic powers given the chance. The angels just don't like to do anything, which is fine since if they did, then diablo would be quite a silly game. Who wants to fight as a human in the back lines while watching angels kill everything?

Yes there is a hero that killed all the prime evils, but that hero is only going to get stronger over the course of twenty years. Of all the heroes in the game, only the barbarian looks old enough that he might not survive another twenty years. I don't like the fact that the demons haven't done anything to sanctuary. The writers could at least make up some story like "it takes time to gather enough soul power to revive the prime evils." Anything is better than "let's wait twenty years until all the humans, that will surely side with the angels, grow stronger.

I'm afraid that Diablo 3's story will go the same way as WOW's. Most people will refuse to acknowledge it as canon because it's too stupid.


The angels and demons both wanted the Nephlim (proper word for humans, probably spelled wrong) because they were stronger than both the angels and demons. They could finally end the struggle between heaven and hell. A pact was even made between the angels and demons to give mankind the choice to decide which path to fight for. The demons torture and punish mankind while the angels are too nice to be trusted. They will not bear allegiance to either side.

As far as I'm aware, the storyline for diablo 3 the prime evils are just a myth that nobody believes anymore. All the people who were alive at the time have died and most people don't even believe in it anymore. They're in for a rude awakening ^_^ You have some false impression that the humans will automatically side with the angels as well, but this isn't true. Maybe they just wanted to stay out of the disagreement entirely or didn't trust the angels or whatever, because I don't think a reason was ever given.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 12 2011 18:33 GMT
#166
I've always played on USwest, but I started up again last night on USEast because well... west was empty. But I have to say, the slight difference in ping is just enough that I dunno if I can play Hardcore on East.

It was my intention, but it makes it much harder to play. Everytime an attack connects with its target the target doesn't die instantly and often has enough time to hit you one more time. Infact, I just lost a level 24 sorcerer to Mephisto's lightning attack. In my client it showed me successfully teleporting before the attack hit, but the game server hadn't quite connected with me. I watched the lightning breeze right by me just to see my sorc jump back to where she was as a corpse.

Frustrating because after maybe four hours I had gotten myself some decent gear and had a 4os crystal sword with a Tal, Thul, and Ort already in it waiting to find an Amn. Suffice to say, I ragequit.

-.-
JustQuitWarcraftIII
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States679 Posts
June 12 2011 18:57 GMT
#167
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 13 2011 01:20 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 15:39 obesechicken13 wrote:
On June 11 2011 12:36 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The demons stop fighting or the angels keep them busy and prevent them from invading Sanctuary, or both sides are too busy trying to recruit them to their respective sides. Assuming the world stone being destroyed means the "humans" get their powers back, the side that has the humans would instantly win the war for heaven and hell. If there's some hero that slayed Ba'al, Diablo, Mephisto, Duriel, and Andariel I wouldn't be first in line for the invasion anyways ^_^

I don't think the angels did any recruiting though, I mean most people would gladly side with the high heavens over the demonic powers given the chance. The angels just don't like to do anything, which is fine since if they did, then diablo would be quite a silly game. Who wants to fight as a human in the back lines while watching angels kill everything?

Yes there is a hero that killed all the prime evils, but that hero is only going to get stronger over the course of twenty years. Of all the heroes in the game, only the barbarian looks old enough that he might not survive another twenty years. I don't like the fact that the demons haven't done anything to sanctuary. The writers could at least make up some story like "it takes time to gather enough soul power to revive the prime evils." Anything is better than "let's wait twenty years until all the humans, that will surely side with the angels, grow stronger.

I'm afraid that Diablo 3's story will go the same way as WOW's. Most people will refuse to acknowledge it as canon because it's too stupid.


The angels and demons both wanted the Nephlim (proper word for humans, probably spelled wrong) because they were stronger than both the angels and demons. They could finally end the struggle between heaven and hell. A pact was even made between the angels and demons to give mankind the choice to decide which path to fight for. The demons torture and punish mankind while the angels are too nice to be trusted. They will not bear allegiance to either side.

As far as I'm aware, the storyline for diablo 3 the prime evils are just a myth that nobody believes anymore. All the people who were alive at the time have died and most people don't even believe in it anymore. They're in for a rude awakening ^_^ You have some false impression that the humans will automatically side with the angels as well, but this isn't true. Maybe they just wanted to stay out of the disagreement entirely or didn't trust the angels or whatever, because I don't think a reason was ever given.


It's funny how that angel standing outside of the Chaos Sanctuary will tell you about the five seals to unleashing Diablo but will not fight any demons himself. Seems to me like the High Heavens are too lazy.
vaporizor
Profile Joined March 2011
United States53 Posts
June 13 2011 18:08 GMT
#168
I was just reading something about diablo 2 runes, made me think in the atleast 1k+ hours of player time the best i ever found was a gul rune. Although i mostly just andy/meph runs, still shocks me.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
June 13 2011 18:23 GMT
#169
Runes were a crazy system.... alot of fun though.
Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
June 13 2011 19:34 GMT
#170
Well I just started playing HC last night for first time ever with a druid I have never played before. I have come really really close to dying twice because of op poison.

Some guys laughed and said "Goodluck in hell/nightmare!" this worried me deeply.

Am I in over my head? Currently going summoner but sucks to jsut find out i can have bears and wolves both out.

Which should I use? Also on us-east if anyone wants to play together. Account name is Brambled but druid is Bigtender.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 21:57:53
June 13 2011 21:52 GMT
#171
On June 14 2011 04:34 Brambled wrote:
Well I just started playing HC last night for first time ever with a druid I have never played before. I have come really really close to dying twice because of op poison.

Some guys laughed and said "Goodluck in hell/nightmare!" this worried me deeply.

Am I in over my head? Currently going summoner but sucks to jsut find out i can have bears and wolves both out.

Which should I use? Also on us-east if anyone wants to play together. Account name is Brambled but druid is Bigtender.

Poison can't kill you. Just get some good resistances on your items and if you can, get up to 75% poison duration reduction. That's the highest you can get, any more is wasted (I don't think any skill or item can let the game give you more than that).

When you fight Andariel or Radamant, just drink some antidote potions before the fight. A little known fact is that drinking antidote potions gives you (50% no stacking) more poison resistance for a set time. Drinking more antidote potions gives you the resistance for longer.

Because of the facts that you can reduce both poison duration and dps, and poison can't kill you, I've always found poison to be the least scary element.

edit: I think I might play some tonight... dunno, I'm a bit tired so maybe after a nap.

Also, you can get 100% poison resist with antidote potions


Antidote Potion
This potion cures poison instantly. You also receive +50 Poison Resistance and +10 to Maximum Resistance for 30 seconds.


http://newd2event.net/index.php?id=items/items/potions
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
vaporizor
Profile Joined March 2011
United States53 Posts
June 13 2011 22:07 GMT
#172
ya they def were awesome, been playing hc trying to farm hell but sucks in 2-3 player games
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 22:40:32
June 13 2011 22:37 GMT
#173
On June 14 2011 07:07 vaporizor wrote:
ya they def were awesome, been playing hc trying to farm hell but sucks in 2-3 player games


And you have to be careful if you don't have yourself a bnet network already... people are assholes.

I lost my Sorc again today, went into a TP designated as "1" or safe to be one shotted by hundreds of Venom lords.

Dying twice in one week, or even a month has to be a new record for me. Both came after pulling all nighters playing D2... perhaps I should stop doing that.

X.X

The first one while annoying, I didn't lose anything. This time i lost my new HotO, Shako, and Arachs I just finished acquiring. Demoralizing to spend that much time making FG, spend it all, then lose everything within a span of ten minutes.

While I recall dealing with those kind of shenanigans before, I don't even know what you can do about being lied to about a TP by five people in Hell. I mean, I guess you could avoid using tps all together, but that seems a touch extreme.
Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
June 13 2011 23:49 GMT
#174
On June 14 2011 07:37 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 07:07 vaporizor wrote:
ya they def were awesome, been playing hc trying to farm hell but sucks in 2-3 player games


And you have to be careful if you don't have yourself a bnet network already... people are assholes.

I lost my Sorc again today, went into a TP designated as "1" or safe to be one shotted by hundreds of Venom lords.

Dying twice in one week, or even a month has to be a new record for me. Both came after pulling all nighters playing D2... perhaps I should stop doing that.

X.X

The first one while annoying, I didn't lose anything. This time i lost my new HotO, Shako, and Arachs I just finished acquiring. Demoralizing to spend that much time making FG, spend it all, then lose everything within a span of ten minutes.

While I recall dealing with those kind of shenanigans before, I don't even know what you can do about being lied to about a TP by five people in Hell. I mean, I guess you could avoid using tps all together, but that seems a touch extreme.


I was just used as a "bumper" to help a lvl1 guy get rushed to hell. So right now I am lvl50 druid with most shit gear ever lol.

Kinda thinking about going shapeshifter since it seems like a beefier safer build if stuff gets scary.

Also thinking about making a pally or barb. Which one might be better for someone new to HC and not so gear dependent?
Riseym
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia51 Posts
June 13 2011 23:56 GMT
#175
Just grabbed a friend and we started playing through hamachi (Lan over the internet) funnest shit we've ever done, We're level 50 atm going through nightmare half way through act 3

The only unique we've found is Stormstrike, luckily enough my friend rolled an amazon
"The Khala awaits me, Kerrigan, and though I am prepared to face my destiny, you will not find me easy prey." - Praetor Fenix
vaporizor
Profile Joined March 2011
United States53 Posts
June 13 2011 23:57 GMT
#176
anyone hc east?
Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
June 14 2011 00:10 GMT
#177
On June 14 2011 08:57 vaporizor wrote:
anyone hc east?


I am on hc-east. Add me name is Brambled
Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
June 14 2011 00:31 GMT
#178
I am making a frost zealot but no idea really where i should spend my points and when. Any advice?
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 14 2011 00:46 GMT
#179
On June 14 2011 09:31 Brambled wrote:
I am making a frost zealot but no idea really where i should spend my points and when. Any advice?

Whatever you want, you can always respec later.

I'm doing the same thing though I'm way more chicken than you are.

I think you'll want something to fight bosses that doesn't lock you into an attack (maybe vengeance, sacrifice, or smite) so you can run from bosses more easily.

Defiance can be useful vs Duriel.

I think sanctuary will help me the most once I get to hell and nightmare difficulties.

How high can an untwinked get on block rates on a shield? Also how does blocking work?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 01:46:05
June 14 2011 01:45 GMT
#180
Max block is 75%, basically uses the number on your shield and your dexterity/level in a formula. Every block is basically zero damage, but you get locked into an animation in which you cant attack/block/move. So you don't neccesarily want 75% block with the fastest blocking framerate. But with your average gear, blocking is good yes.

I'm on HC East (as my home HC West is a ghost town...) under the same name as here. Had I not ran into some players without manner i would be game to rush/whatever. But I am definetly game to play with some TL peoples.... more fun with friends anyway.

^_^

Feel free to add me.

EDIT: As for your class, I'd roll a Hammerdin/Soso/BObarb just because they're the most neccessary classes so they are also the best for getting started.
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