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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51506 Posts
July 30 2011 16:02 GMT
#641
http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/videos/Kluwe-McNabb-Agree-To-Terms-On-No-5/d276a4b4-fdee-47cb-8ea7-d3761ea53e3a

rofl kluwe is a hero
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Quesa
Profile Joined November 2010
United States304 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 16:10:07
July 30 2011 16:08 GMT
#642
On July 31 2011 01:02 GTR wrote:
http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/videos/Kluwe-McNabb-Agree-To-Terms-On-No-5/d276a4b4-fdee-47cb-8ea7-d3761ea53e3a

rofl kluwe is a hero


Wow, that is fanTASTIC, rotfl.

I'm so glad Childress and Favre are gone, I didn't like hating the Vikings.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 30 2011 16:10 GMT
#643
he's definitely a good troll
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32097 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 16:13:56
July 30 2011 16:11 GMT
#644
On July 31 2011 00:46 nemY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 15:23 BloodNinja wrote:
On July 30 2011 12:57 nemY wrote:
On July 30 2011 12:32 Quesa wrote:
On July 30 2011 09:40 nemY wrote:
Not gonna lie, whenever I feel bad about how the 49ers offseason is going I go check out the Bengals forums. Their key acquisition so far is Bruce Gradowski.


You know what's sad is that's not the worst QB news; just think how bad Dolphin and Seahawk fans are feeling right now. Simmons had the tweet of the day:

sportsguy33 Bill Simmons
Who's breaking the news to Brandon Marshall that his 2011 QB's are Matt Moore & Chad Henne? Can this moment be televised?


http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/sports/Bush__I_Want_to_Be_a_Feature_Back_Miami-126425493.html

Yeah Reggie Bush wants to be their featured back... hopefully the Phins sign Marion Barber or something. Their HC is going to be fired by Game 8 I think...


God help you if you think Marion Barber is the answer to your RB issues. The Cowboys completely ran him into the ground and he has not been the same since. I would take my chances on Reggie Bush in a heartbeat over Marion Barber. This coming from a life-long Cowboys fan and Bush doubter.


With Chad Henne/Matt Moore at starting QB and Reggie Bush at starting RB? They're going to need Barber or some sort of bruiser. Either way the Dolphins are screwed... and they're not my team.

Not like 49ers have been any better this off season. Seriously. I've seen every team in the NFC Worst add players to get better, but it seems as if the 49ers are going for addition by subtraction.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/07/30/11/Harbaugh-49ers-working-hard-at-free-agen/landing_maiocco_v3.html?blockID=544791&feedID=5936

I'm glad they're talking to the the agents of all these players, but umm... can they sign somebody?



Reading this made me literally lol

49ERS FREE AGENCY
Additions: K David Akers (Eagles).
Subtractions: C David Baas (Giants), CB Nate Clements (released), LB Takeo Spikes (Chargers), QB David Carr (released), C Eric Heitmann (released/failed physical), K Joe Nedney (released-failed physical/announced retirement).
Re-signings: QB Alex Smith (UFA), DE Ray McDonald (UFA), C/G Tony Wragge (UFA), DB C.J. Spillman (EFA).
Unsigned free agents: NT Aubrayo Franklin, S Dashon Goldson, OLB Manny Lawson, OT Barry Sims, RB Brian Westbrook, DE Demetric Evans, CB Will James, QB Troy Smith, K Jeff Reed.

Well, I guess it could be worse. We could be the Bucs paying $3m + /year to a punter who isnt even good


Really can't believe they're basically gonna not fill that void at CB though. I'm not particularly keen on overpaying Cromartie or Carlos Rodgers to be the top dog when they're really better suited to the second position
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kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
July 30 2011 16:52 GMT
#645
I can't believe we were Cliff Lee'd by another Philly team, smh
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 30 2011 17:49 GMT
#646
On July 31 2011 01:11 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 00:46 nemY wrote:
On July 30 2011 15:23 BloodNinja wrote:
On July 30 2011 12:57 nemY wrote:
On July 30 2011 12:32 Quesa wrote:
On July 30 2011 09:40 nemY wrote:
Not gonna lie, whenever I feel bad about how the 49ers offseason is going I go check out the Bengals forums. Their key acquisition so far is Bruce Gradowski.


You know what's sad is that's not the worst QB news; just think how bad Dolphin and Seahawk fans are feeling right now. Simmons had the tweet of the day:

sportsguy33 Bill Simmons
Who's breaking the news to Brandon Marshall that his 2011 QB's are Matt Moore & Chad Henne? Can this moment be televised?


http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/sports/Bush__I_Want_to_Be_a_Feature_Back_Miami-126425493.html

Yeah Reggie Bush wants to be their featured back... hopefully the Phins sign Marion Barber or something. Their HC is going to be fired by Game 8 I think...


God help you if you think Marion Barber is the answer to your RB issues. The Cowboys completely ran him into the ground and he has not been the same since. I would take my chances on Reggie Bush in a heartbeat over Marion Barber. This coming from a life-long Cowboys fan and Bush doubter.


With Chad Henne/Matt Moore at starting QB and Reggie Bush at starting RB? They're going to need Barber or some sort of bruiser. Either way the Dolphins are screwed... and they're not my team.

Not like 49ers have been any better this off season. Seriously. I've seen every team in the NFC Worst add players to get better, but it seems as if the 49ers are going for addition by subtraction.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/07/30/11/Harbaugh-49ers-working-hard-at-free-agen/landing_maiocco_v3.html?blockID=544791&feedID=5936

I'm glad they're talking to the the agents of all these players, but umm... can they sign somebody?



Reading this made me literally lol

49ERS FREE AGENCY
Additions: K David Akers (Eagles).
Subtractions: C David Baas (Giants), CB Nate Clements (released), LB Takeo Spikes (Chargers), QB David Carr (released), C Eric Heitmann (released/failed physical), K Joe Nedney (released-failed physical/announced retirement).
Re-signings: QB Alex Smith (UFA), DE Ray McDonald (UFA), C/G Tony Wragge (UFA), DB C.J. Spillman (EFA).
Unsigned free agents: NT Aubrayo Franklin, S Dashon Goldson, OLB Manny Lawson, OT Barry Sims, RB Brian Westbrook, DE Demetric Evans, CB Will James, QB Troy Smith, K Jeff Reed.

Well, I guess it could be worse. We could be the Bucs paying $3m + /year to a punter who isnt even good


Really can't believe they're basically gonna not fill that void at CB though. I'm not particularly keen on overpaying Cromartie or Carlos Rodgers to be the top dog when they're really better suited to the second position


The thing is the Bucs don't have the gaping holes on their roster like the 49ers do. Seriously our top WRs going into training camp are Josh Morgan and Ted Ginn Jr. That's a 6th rd draft pick and a return specialist who was traded for a 5th rd draft pick. Don't even get me started on our secondary. Anyways of our unsigned FAs I think we need to bring back Goldson, Lawson, Sims, Evans, and maybe Will James? (I have no idea who he is, but we need the depth). Oh yeah, bring back Clements at a reduced price pretty pretty please. Go out and bring in a TO or maybe even Randy Moss because they will be dirt cheap (I'm not for bringing in a overpaid #2 receiver, they usually never pan out, I'd rather have a veteran stopgap at this point), get some depth on the DLine, OLine and please sign ONE above-average CB. GOD DAMN IT PLEASE!!!
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
July 30 2011 18:08 GMT
#647
They'd probably like to bring back Clement(who is basically, THE average cornerback) but after seeing the money that Joseph and Asomugha got, he'll probably try the free market. There's so much need out there - Detroit, especially, could use a D-back.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
July 30 2011 18:26 GMT
#648
On July 31 2011 03:08 slyboogie wrote:
They'd probably like to bring back Clement(who is basically, THE average cornerback) but after seeing the money that Joseph and Asomugha got, he'll probably try the free market. There's so much need out there - Detroit, especially, could use a D-back.


Detroit's policy: If we can cover for more than 2 seconds one of our D-line will be on your QB
Farkinator
Profile Joined August 2010
United States283 Posts
July 30 2011 21:29 GMT
#649
On July 30 2011 15:23 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 12:57 nemY wrote:
On July 30 2011 12:32 Quesa wrote:
On July 30 2011 09:40 nemY wrote:
Not gonna lie, whenever I feel bad about how the 49ers offseason is going I go check out the Bengals forums. Their key acquisition so far is Bruce Gradowski.


You know what's sad is that's not the worst QB news; just think how bad Dolphin and Seahawk fans are feeling right now. Simmons had the tweet of the day:

sportsguy33 Bill Simmons
Who's breaking the news to Brandon Marshall that his 2011 QB's are Matt Moore & Chad Henne? Can this moment be televised?


http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/sports/Bush__I_Want_to_Be_a_Feature_Back_Miami-126425493.html

Yeah Reggie Bush wants to be their featured back... hopefully the Phins sign Marion Barber or something. Their HC is going to be fired by Game 8 I think...


God help you if you think Marion Barber is the answer to your RB issues. The Cowboys completely ran him into the ground and he has not been the same since. I would take my chances on Reggie Bush in a heartbeat over Marion Barber. This coming from a life-long Cowboys fan and Bush doubter.

Meh; Bush is actually rather terrible. As a long-time Saints fan, he was more trouble than he was worth. He had 1 good game in recent memory and I think that was the game against the Arizona Cardinals 2 years ago in the Saint's super bowl season. What happened to Ronnie Brown? Is he gone? (Sorry haven't been really keeping up with that kind of stuff).

I'm really just happy for the Saints because we got Mark Ingram. Hopefully he won't be nearly as disappointing as Bush was (I have faith; Bama is an SEC school.)

And in other news, I appreciate the efforts the Texans are making to improve their secondary. I just hope that our offense can start off the year like they did last year.
Get some bases, smash some faces.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32097 Posts
July 31 2011 00:30 GMT
#650
On July 31 2011 02:49 nemY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 01:11 Hawk wrote:
On July 31 2011 00:46 nemY wrote:
On July 30 2011 15:23 BloodNinja wrote:
On July 30 2011 12:57 nemY wrote:
On July 30 2011 12:32 Quesa wrote:
On July 30 2011 09:40 nemY wrote:
Not gonna lie, whenever I feel bad about how the 49ers offseason is going I go check out the Bengals forums. Their key acquisition so far is Bruce Gradowski.


You know what's sad is that's not the worst QB news; just think how bad Dolphin and Seahawk fans are feeling right now. Simmons had the tweet of the day:

sportsguy33 Bill Simmons
Who's breaking the news to Brandon Marshall that his 2011 QB's are Matt Moore & Chad Henne? Can this moment be televised?


http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/sports/Bush__I_Want_to_Be_a_Feature_Back_Miami-126425493.html

Yeah Reggie Bush wants to be their featured back... hopefully the Phins sign Marion Barber or something. Their HC is going to be fired by Game 8 I think...


God help you if you think Marion Barber is the answer to your RB issues. The Cowboys completely ran him into the ground and he has not been the same since. I would take my chances on Reggie Bush in a heartbeat over Marion Barber. This coming from a life-long Cowboys fan and Bush doubter.


With Chad Henne/Matt Moore at starting QB and Reggie Bush at starting RB? They're going to need Barber or some sort of bruiser. Either way the Dolphins are screwed... and they're not my team.

Not like 49ers have been any better this off season. Seriously. I've seen every team in the NFC Worst add players to get better, but it seems as if the 49ers are going for addition by subtraction.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/07/30/11/Harbaugh-49ers-working-hard-at-free-agen/landing_maiocco_v3.html?blockID=544791&feedID=5936

I'm glad they're talking to the the agents of all these players, but umm... can they sign somebody?



Reading this made me literally lol

49ERS FREE AGENCY
Additions: K David Akers (Eagles).
Subtractions: C David Baas (Giants), CB Nate Clements (released), LB Takeo Spikes (Chargers), QB David Carr (released), C Eric Heitmann (released/failed physical), K Joe Nedney (released-failed physical/announced retirement).
Re-signings: QB Alex Smith (UFA), DE Ray McDonald (UFA), C/G Tony Wragge (UFA), DB C.J. Spillman (EFA).
Unsigned free agents: NT Aubrayo Franklin, S Dashon Goldson, OLB Manny Lawson, OT Barry Sims, RB Brian Westbrook, DE Demetric Evans, CB Will James, QB Troy Smith, K Jeff Reed.

Well, I guess it could be worse. We could be the Bucs paying $3m + /year to a punter who isnt even good


Really can't believe they're basically gonna not fill that void at CB though. I'm not particularly keen on overpaying Cromartie or Carlos Rodgers to be the top dog when they're really better suited to the second position


The thing is the Bucs don't have the gaping holes on their roster like the 49ers do. Seriously our top WRs going into training camp are Josh Morgan and Ted Ginn Jr. That's a 6th rd draft pick and a return specialist who was traded for a 5th rd draft pick. Don't even get me started on our secondary. Anyways of our unsigned FAs I think we need to bring back Goldson, Lawson, Sims, Evans, and maybe Will James? (I have no idea who he is, but we need the depth). Oh yeah, bring back Clements at a reduced price pretty pretty please. Go out and bring in a TO or maybe even Randy Moss because they will be dirt cheap (I'm not for bringing in a overpaid #2 receiver, they usually never pan out, I'd rather have a veteran stopgap at this point), get some depth on the DLine, OLine and please sign ONE above-average CB. GOD DAMN IT PLEASE!!!

I like Josh Morgan a lot even though I thnk there's a lot better #2s out there, but DB is much more of a concern. Like you said, Shawntee Spencer is coming in at the #1 and he is average at best. I dont want him as aything more thank a nickel back
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-31 04:18:40
July 31 2011 04:12 GMT
#651
On July 31 2011 06:29 Farkinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 15:23 BloodNinja wrote:
On July 30 2011 12:57 nemY wrote:
On July 30 2011 12:32 Quesa wrote:
On July 30 2011 09:40 nemY wrote:
Not gonna lie, whenever I feel bad about how the 49ers offseason is going I go check out the Bengals forums. Their key acquisition so far is Bruce Gradowski.


You know what's sad is that's not the worst QB news; just think how bad Dolphin and Seahawk fans are feeling right now. Simmons had the tweet of the day:

sportsguy33 Bill Simmons
Who's breaking the news to Brandon Marshall that his 2011 QB's are Matt Moore & Chad Henne? Can this moment be televised?


http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/sports/Bush__I_Want_to_Be_a_Feature_Back_Miami-126425493.html

Yeah Reggie Bush wants to be their featured back... hopefully the Phins sign Marion Barber or something. Their HC is going to be fired by Game 8 I think...


God help you if you think Marion Barber is the answer to your RB issues. The Cowboys completely ran him into the ground and he has not been the same since. I would take my chances on Reggie Bush in a heartbeat over Marion Barber. This coming from a life-long Cowboys fan and Bush doubter.

Meh; Bush is actually rather terrible. As a long-time Saints fan, he was more trouble than he was worth. He had 1 good game in recent memory and I think that was the game against the Arizona Cardinals 2 years ago in the Saint's super bowl season. What happened to Ronnie Brown? Is he gone? (Sorry haven't been really keeping up with that kind of stuff).

I'm really just happy for the Saints because we got Mark Ingram. Hopefully he won't be nearly as disappointing as Bush was (I have faith; Bama is an SEC school.)

And in other news, I appreciate the efforts the Texans are making to improve their secondary. I just hope that our offense can start off the year like they did last year.


The only trouble Bush was was his contract. He wasn't worth the money we were giving him, but you're absolutely daft if you think he somehow detracted from the team. He was the leading running back in all receiving categories besides touchdowns (which brees uses TEs for on short yardage anyhow) ever since he was drafted. This wasn't worth such a high price and draft pick (especially when in the same draft we got Colston, Evans, and Harper, lol), but he has long been an important and useful part of our offense. If he wasn't, we wouldn't have instantly signed sproles to act as a worse, but more affordable, replacement for him.
Remember Violet.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
July 31 2011 06:11 GMT
#652
I've always thought of Bush as the PERFECT 12th player...if football allowed 12 players on the field at once. I always thought that he could be a full-timer when he was at Southern Cal - he hit the hole with some authority and seemed to read the zone blocking well. It's a great shame he didn't work out like most hoped; I don' know him personally, but I really think he might have not worked hard enough to become brilliant in the NFL: the talent was always there, just not enough results to match.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
July 31 2011 15:34 GMT
#653
You guys are vastly underestimating the importance of Reggie Bush to the New Orleans offense. He's a guy that you have to pay attention to when he's on the field. Everyone on the defense has eyes on the guy when he's on the field, because he's such a threat once he gets the ball.

Coming into the league, no one believed he would be a 25 carry, between the tackles HB; that's not what he was in college. They may have expected a bit more from the running game, but that's irrelevant considering his contributions in other areas of the game. His stats may not have reflected his importance, but he was probably the greatest "decoy" in the game. Other guys got open because Reggie was on the field, and a safety had to give him attention. If a LB was covering him, the LB got burned 9/10 times. Reggie Bush is largely responsible for the variety that Sean Payton was able to add to the offense.

All that said, he wasn't worth $16M or whatever he was scheduled to get paid. He's more of a $5M guy like he is in Miami.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 31 2011 20:03 GMT
#654
Jets managed to snag Plaxico. What does everything think of that?
Never Knows Best.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
July 31 2011 20:07 GMT
#655
On August 01 2011 05:03 Slaughter wrote:
Jets managed to snag Plaxico. What does everything think of that?


3 million for 1 year? I think it's fine. He's tall and had good hands. Dunno why they guaranteed all of the money but he was, supposedly, in some demand.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Quesa
Profile Joined November 2010
United States304 Posts
July 31 2011 20:48 GMT
#656
On August 01 2011 00:34 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
You guys are vastly underestimating the importance of Reggie Bush to the New Orleans offense.+ Show Spoiler +
He's a guy that you have to pay attention to when he's on the field. Everyone on the defense has eyes on the guy when he's on the field, because he's such a threat once he gets the ball.

Coming into the league, no one believed he would be a 25 carry, between the tackles HB; that's not what he was in college. They may have expected a bit more from the running game, but that's irrelevant considering his contributions in other areas of the game. His stats may not have reflected his importance, but he was probably the greatest "decoy" in the game. Other guys got open because Reggie was on the field, and a safety had to give him attention. If a LB was covering him, the LB got burned 9/10 times. Reggie Bush is largely responsible for the variety that Sean Payton was able to add to the offense.

All that said, he wasn't worth $16M or whatever he was scheduled to get paid. He's more of a $5M guy like he is in Miami.


I agree with just about all of that (there were a lot of people who felt like he was going to be able to carry the rock 30+ times a game though, I certainly thought he'd be better between the tackles). As you say, the Saints were screwed with his huge cap number; 5 mil is far more palatable. I might turn him into a slot WR and put him into motion every play, especially if I ran a lot of obnoxious wildcat plays.
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
July 31 2011 22:14 GMT
#657
What's the deal with Edwards? Did Plaxico essentially replace him?
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
July 31 2011 22:25 GMT
#658
On August 01 2011 07:14 DannyJ wrote:
What's the deal with Edwards? Did Plaxico essentially replace him?


I think Braylon's a free agent and wanted to get "market value" for his talent. The Jets weren't particularly interested in resigning him without a discount and the pursuit of Nnamdi Asomugha meant that the Jets weren't going to spend money until that was resolved.

Plaxico does replace Edwards but he is definitely older, though the production loss is probably marginal? I don't think much of Edwards, so we'll see.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
August 01 2011 03:50 GMT
#659
The Eagles brought in Cullen Jenkins as well (for roughly $25 million). Are you fucking kidding me? How much money did they have to burn? I really HATE saying this as a Cowboys fan, but the Eagles have put themselves into NFC Superbowl contender (front-runner?) status. While I have no clue about what scheme they will be running (new D Coordinator), the amount of talent just on that side of the ball is simply sickening and would be capable of making a bland, vanilla defense look innovative.

That all being said, I will can take solace in the fact the Eagles have 2 years tops to make said run. I cannot believe they can keep all those names under the cap for more than 2 years ( maybe even 1 year depending on success).
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
August 01 2011 05:06 GMT
#660
On August 01 2011 12:50 BloodNinja wrote:
The Eagles brought in Cullen Jenkins as well (for roughly $25 million). Are you fucking kidding me? How much money did they have to burn? I really HATE saying this as a Cowboys fan, but the Eagles have put themselves into NFC Superbowl contender (front-runner?) status. While I have no clue about what scheme they will be running (new D Coordinator), the amount of talent just on that side of the ball is simply sickening and would be capable of making a bland, vanilla defense look innovative.

That all being said, I will can take solace in the fact the Eagles have 2 years tops to make said run. I cannot believe they can keep all those names under the cap for more than 2 years ( maybe even 1 year depending on success).


In my opinion, a bomb free agency season does not necessarily equate to success. Football is a weird game; individual stars are usually a product of team chemistry and schemes as much as individual success. The last time I remember a team went on a free agency binge like this was snyder's redskins back in 2002? 2003? And that didn't work out so well.
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