EPT2011 NFL Offseason/NFL Draft - Page 32
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On July 30 2011 07:48 turamn wrote: Maybe they will trade Samuel? I honestly think Samuel moves to Nickle back or Safety (or traded). They just traded for one CB and signed another via FA. You don't make those moves if you don't believe either of those players wont be a starter for your team. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
Hope we go more 2 TE sets and run the ball a lot (probably will since we will likely be starting Beck...) | ||
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TaylorGangOrDie
United States104 Posts
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GTR
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i expected the eagles at the beginning of the off-season, cool to see it happen. | ||
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
http://www.cincyjungle.com/2011/7/29/2303697/morgan-trent-returns-bengals-rescind-waiving-of-the-cornerback | ||
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On July 30 2011 10:00 nemY wrote: Seriously the bengals waived somebody and then "took it back" an hour later... http://www.cincyjungle.com/2011/7/29/2303697/morgan-trent-returns-bengals-rescind-waiving-of-the-cornerback lol! | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On July 30 2011 09:31 d_so wrote: i never understood the fascination with corners. i would rather have a decent corner with a gangbuster defensive line than an 'elite' corner with a decent defensive line. Cornerbacks usually make their money off reputation, which they ride until they slowly transition to safety. See: Charles Woodson I agree with you in 99% of the time. There are a few exceptions for me though; 1) a player like Champ Bailey or 2) a defense like the Eagles had under Jim Johnson. For 1 its a proven corner who was a shutdown corner wherever they went and they adjusted. For 2, Jim Johnson favored a heavy zone blitz / pressure scheme that depended on great play making corners. While the corners played zone they needed to be opportunistic (the anti Carlos Rogers [NFC East reference]) and they needed to be comfortable in a number of zones since a safety blitz could be called at any time. This all being said, a good cover CB is not always a good zone CB (see Hall, Deangelo in Oakland). However, the truly elites CB should be able to do both or a coordinator can recognize a special talent and use some hybrid coverage schemes. Edit - That being said, its seems easier and cheaper to build a ridiculously dominate DLine as opposed to a secondary and a direction I would take if I could find a way to generate the pressure up front. Cincy owner (Mike Brown?) showing his inept as always leadership from the owner's box. | ||
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Quesa
United States304 Posts
On July 30 2011 09:40 nemY wrote: Not gonna lie, whenever I feel bad about how the 49ers offseason is going I go check out the Bengals forums. Their key acquisition so far is Bruce Gradowski. You know what's sad is that's not the worst QB news; just think how bad Dolphin and Seahawk fans are feeling right now. Simmons had the tweet of the day: sportsguy33 Bill Simmons Who's breaking the news to Brandon Marshall that his 2011 QB's are Matt Moore & Chad Henne? Can this moment be televised? | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
On July 30 2011 12:32 Quesa wrote: You know what's sad is that's not the worst QB news; just think how bad Dolphin and Seahawk fans are feeling right now. Simmons had the tweet of the day: sportsguy33 Bill Simmons Who's breaking the news to Brandon Marshall that his 2011 QB's are Matt Moore & Chad Henne? Can this moment be televised? http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/sports/Bush__I_Want_to_Be_a_Feature_Back_Miami-126425493.html Yeah Reggie Bush wants to be their featured back... hopefully the Phins sign Marion Barber or something. Their HC is going to be fired by Game 8 I think... | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On July 30 2011 12:57 nemY wrote: http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/sports/Bush__I_Want_to_Be_a_Feature_Back_Miami-126425493.html Yeah Reggie Bush wants to be their featured back... hopefully the Phins sign Marion Barber or something. Their HC is going to be fired by Game 8 I think... God help you if you think Marion Barber is the answer to your RB issues. The Cowboys completely ran him into the ground and he has not been the same since. I would take my chances on Reggie Bush in a heartbeat over Marion Barber. This coming from a life-long Cowboys fan and Bush doubter. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
Also, I agree with that Marion barber assessment. I had no clue why you guys signed him to that big contract in Dallas in the first place. He was always fairly mediocre and he never had to carry the load before you guys gave him the contract. 50 mil deal when he never got a 1000 yard season.... That said, Bush will probably break down in like week 6 or 7 as a feature back. Better hope they do a lot of swing out plays or something. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32161 Posts
On July 30 2011 15:23 BloodNinja wrote: God help you if you think Marion Barber is the answer to your RB issues. The Cowboys completely ran him into the ground and he has not been the same since. I would take my chances on Reggie Bush in a heartbeat over Marion Barber. This coming from a life-long Cowboys fan and Bush doubter. Bush couldn't hack it running in NO, with a much better line, an All Pro QB to keep guys out of the box, Colston and Shockey (a good blocker) drawing heat elseqwhere. There is no way he does anything running the ball in Miami. | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
On July 30 2011 15:23 BloodNinja wrote: God help you if you think Marion Barber is the answer to your RB issues. The Cowboys completely ran him into the ground and he has not been the same since. I would take my chances on Reggie Bush in a heartbeat over Marion Barber. This coming from a life-long Cowboys fan and Bush doubter. With Chad Henne/Matt Moore at starting QB and Reggie Bush at starting RB? They're going to need Barber or some sort of bruiser. Either way the Dolphins are screwed... and they're not my team. Not like 49ers have been any better this off season. Seriously. I've seen every team in the NFC Worst add players to get better, but it seems as if the 49ers are going for addition by subtraction. http://www.csnbayarea.com/07/30/11/Harbaugh-49ers-working-hard-at-free-agen/landing_maiocco_v3.html?blockID=544791&feedID=5936 I'm glad they're talking to the the agents of all these players, but umm... can they sign somebody? | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Not a groundbreaking offseason, but I'm content. preseason champions never win much, anyhow. edit-- oh, and to the people who preference D-line over corners: D-linemen and edge rushing OLBs have a very obvious and visible effect on the field, so it's easy to just assume they're much better at creating a solid defense, but most truly great defenses come down to schemes, and almost all defensive schemes start with where you're putting your corners. There's a reason smart minded defensive coaches like Rex Ryan and Sean Payton (atleast for pass d) live on the motto of "You can never have too many good cornerbacks." There's nothing wrong with having can opener front sevens -- it's worked for the steelers for decades -- but there's similar value in cornerbacks. And, frankly, you're probably gonna have to go through some excellent QBs if you plan on winning a superbowl, and most of the top QBs do their work despite dlinemen coming for them. Ask Tom Brady and Peyton Manning what happened when they ran into the Jets exemplary backfield and scheme work, despite having a very tepid front 7. | ||
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