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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 29 2011 02:40 GMT
#581
On July 29 2011 10:31 Trezeguet wrote:
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On July 29 2011 10:03 nemY wrote:
Maybe the bears grab TO haha. Whiney QB with an old diva flanker... idk I thought the bears biggest needs were OL and WRs, until they traded away their star TE lol.

a te that couldn't block a cb


Seriously? He was their best offensive weapon outside of Forte. Hope you guys sign some receivers otherwise expect a lot of screens/swing outs to Forte.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 03:45:30
July 29 2011 03:44 GMT
#582
On July 29 2011 11:07 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 10:31 eshlow wrote:
On July 29 2011 10:29 Juliette wrote:
wheres everyone getting updates from ;;. is espn covering all the trading?

bush to the dolphins TT. hes why i became a saints fan. but thats not gonna change :D


twitter, espn, fan message boards, wherever..


J Joseph gets 5 years, $48.75 million and $23.5 guaranteed, including $12.5 signing bonus, from Houston.

Wow.... I guess Asomugha gonna get more than this...


Holy fuckin front load

That Ocho deal is a steal for the Pats... fucking hell. People can knock chad all day, but the dude is 100% football when he's on the field, and he can still play damn well. If even just one of Hanesworth or Ocho pans out, the Pats are dramatically better.

That Jospeh deal means huge money for Asemowasdf;lj;lw

Speaking of money, I heard it on ESPN on tv the other day and saw nothing else, but is Frank Gore holding out??

The bears have terrible management. I have no idea why they'd get rid of Olsen, who is a pretty damn good catching TE, probably their best skill guy on offense.

I'm pretty surprised no one has taken a shot at Malcolm Floyd yet. Has a bit of an issue with injuries, but is an affordable big WR who at the very least could provide a nice change of pace on a smallish WR corps like in NYJ or the bears


Yeah, I hope the pats fail or Haynesworth is still a cancer up there.... one can hope.

Frank Gore AND Chris Johnson are holding out.... CJ started his holdout after Frank Gore started his (for obvious reasons...). In related holdout news so is DeSean Jackson.

Bears got rid of Olsen because Mike Martz is more a receivers guy over utilizing TEs in his system heh. Prolly still living out his greatest show on turf days than adapting his system to utilize Cutler's favorite target. I heard rumors they might go after Braylon Edwards?... Forte is gonna be doing a lot more work regardless.

I am also curious why no one has been talking with Floyd.
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
July 29 2011 03:47 GMT
#583
Frank Gore holding out is good. The guy can't break if he's just sitting at home.
Quesa
Profile Joined November 2010
United States304 Posts
July 29 2011 03:49 GMT
#584
On July 29 2011 09:40 Qatol wrote:
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On July 29 2011 09:02 Quesa wrote:
On July 29 2011 08:51 Qatol wrote:
On July 29 2011 08:45 turamn wrote:
If anyone can get Haynesworth and Ocho to shut up and play, it's Bellichick. He might have just made out like a bandit.


EDIT: What did they get for Olsen? I didn't see anything yet.

A pick and a player, which haven't been named yet. The player is not Steve Smith. The thing is I doubt it's going to be much. Probably something like a 4th and a backup lineman. I just don't have any faith in Angelo's ability to make a good trade after the Gaines Adams fiasco.


I was blown away by this, this is such a massive steal; we haven't had a TE since the 90s (not sure what we can expect from Shockey, either). We could send y'all our entire receiving corps excluding Smitty and it's a bargain. Now all we need is a quarterback. And a couple of other receivers :x

It's such an odd move, the Bears are one of the few teams with receivers as weak as ours (as evidenced by Muhammad bouncing back and forth between us), and Olsen was such a great asset. I really don't get it.

I agree. It's such a weird move. Chicago turned their biggest position of strength into a weakness in less than a week by cutting or trading 3 of their 4 tight ends and replacing them with a backup from Pittsburgh. Meanwhile Carolina make out like bandits. Maybe it's payback for the Jamar Williams for Chris Harris trade?


That was really depressing, that wasn't a football move (a starting safety and locker room leader for a backup LB? My God..), that was a salary dump; that was simultaneously proof that the lockout was pending (as I whined about in post #2 of this thread, Jerry R. could not have been more overt in commanding the franchise to batten down the hatches last off season) and that they had utterly no interest in competing last season*. Harris is such a great guy, on the radio, the locker room and the field.. having him made losing Minter more bearable (no pun intended).

* Sometimes I just want to deck Michael Lombardi. He went on the BS report today and stated that the Panthers always make huge moves like re-signing all of their in demand FAs and as evidence of that last season Fox told him they were going to be better than anyone expected. OF COURSE THE FKING HEAD COACH TOLD HIM THAT, what the hell. The team was an 8-8 team too (just like ALL of Fox's teams have been.. Captain Don't Play To Win, so glad to be going in a new direction) aside from the fact that our QB situation was so bad that only another season of Jake Delhomme and the post-Warner trainwreck in Arizona could have been worse.

It doesn't bother me that the Panthers have no national profile, but it does bother me when people talk out of their asses about a team they know dick about. All of the 'Lowly Panthers' talk based on the 2-14 season last year was hilarious given that we were one game away from home field advantage throughout the playoffs in '08, the season that was ruined when Delhomme's surgically repaired elbow finally gave up the ghost and torpedo'd us in the first round of the playoffs with the most unimaginably awful playoff performance anyone's seen in recent memory (AND HE KEPT PASSING IT, RAGHAGHAEHGAHGAHG).

Inexplicably, the front office decided that since we made such a great run in '08, all we needed for '09 was the exact same roster (including Delhomme who'd just demonstrated that he was done as an NFL QB). Given the major changes that needed to take place and the fact that the lockout was pending with no guaranteed '11, '10 was a complete write off (for everyone but John Fox who really didn't want that 0-16 mark on his resume).

Of course, I'm not saying anything about '11 being 'our year.' As far as I'm concerned our biggest problem last year (QB) is our biggest problem this year, although I suddenly find myself excited that Steve Smith will not be our one receiving threat this season.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
Souljah
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States423 Posts
July 29 2011 04:01 GMT
#585
Alot of rumors having asomugha (sp?) going to the jets.. fuckin piece of shit niners didn't do a fuckin thing this offseason but get worse..resigned Alex "the bust" Smith.. what a fuckin joke of a franchise.
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 29 2011 05:04 GMT
#586
On July 29 2011 12:44 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 11:07 Hawk wrote:
On July 29 2011 10:31 eshlow wrote:
On July 29 2011 10:29 Juliette wrote:
wheres everyone getting updates from ;;. is espn covering all the trading?

bush to the dolphins TT. hes why i became a saints fan. but thats not gonna change :D


twitter, espn, fan message boards, wherever..


J Joseph gets 5 years, $48.75 million and $23.5 guaranteed, including $12.5 signing bonus, from Houston.

Wow.... I guess Asomugha gonna get more than this...


Holy fuckin front load

That Ocho deal is a steal for the Pats... fucking hell. People can knock chad all day, but the dude is 100% football when he's on the field, and he can still play damn well. If even just one of Hanesworth or Ocho pans out, the Pats are dramatically better.

That Jospeh deal means huge money for Asemowasdf;lj;lw

Speaking of money, I heard it on ESPN on tv the other day and saw nothing else, but is Frank Gore holding out??

The bears have terrible management. I have no idea why they'd get rid of Olsen, who is a pretty damn good catching TE, probably their best skill guy on offense.

I'm pretty surprised no one has taken a shot at Malcolm Floyd yet. Has a bit of an issue with injuries, but is an affordable big WR who at the very least could provide a nice change of pace on a smallish WR corps like in NYJ or the bears


Yeah, I hope the pats fail or Haynesworth is still a cancer up there.... one can hope.

Frank Gore AND Chris Johnson are holding out.... CJ started his holdout after Frank Gore started his (for obvious reasons...). In related holdout news so is DeSean Jackson.

Bears got rid of Olsen because Mike Martz is more a receivers guy over utilizing TEs in his system heh. Prolly still living out his greatest show on turf days than adapting his system to utilize Cutler's favorite target. I heard rumors they might go after Braylon Edwards?... Forte is gonna be doing a lot more work regardless.

I am also curious why no one has been talking with Floyd.


-Gore picked a bad time to holdout... I mean I get it, the guy's looking for one last big paycheck (and he currently makes roughly the same as Alex Smith), but who wants to sign a player coming off of season-ending surgery to a long term deal?

-Chris Johnson? Well he deserves to get paid... he didn't live up to the hype of 09, but he's still a top 5 rb.

-Getting rid of Olsen because Martz is incompetent is not a + move for the Bears.

-The 49ers have been linked to Malcom Floyd.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/07/28/11/Crabtree-heads-to-PUP-list-with-foot-inj/l_49ers.html?blockID=544507&feedID=5936

I question the 49ers atual "interest" in Floyd because it seems like the 49ers have been "linked" to pretty much every FA... and all they have to show for it so far is Akers. Also I question how good Floyd actually is... it's a lot easier to put up decent numbers when your QB is Phillip Rivers than when it's Alex Smith.
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3851 Posts
July 29 2011 06:27 GMT
#587
Haynesworth to the Pats worries me considerably. I was thinking that he was one of the few teams other than the Eagles who would be able to get everything out of him

I Hope I'm wrong and he is a massive flop there.
: o )
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 07:00:27
July 29 2011 06:59 GMT
#588
Frank Gore is peaking, he can't be older than 26 (I'll check) and he's has been insanely productive in his career. He has never had an injury that caused irreparable harm to his athleticism, strength or speed. I think he broke his hand once and had that hip fracture last season...otherwise it's just dings and scrapes like all other guys who have to run into a line of 300 pounders looking to push and shove you into the ground get. He consistently averages around 4.4 yards a carry, blocks pretty well and has the hands to catch the ball.

He should hold out - it's unfortunate that that's the way football works with its salary structure, but Running Backs don't have a long shelf life. He deserves,,or at least, I hope he gets, the security of a contract before running out onto that field again.

EDIT: Ooooooh...he's 28....that takes some luster off.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32161 Posts
July 29 2011 13:16 GMT
#589
If I were frank, I'd hold out because Smith is starting again and for no other reason but that. Jesus, I would have taken McNabb for that price. Timing is a little whack though because of the age... he should have done this two years ago. The Niners are in a bind though because he knows they have no one else at all in the system, and frank gore IS the Niner offense. Without him, they'd be lucky to crack 250 total yards a game.

I really can't believe there's people defending that bears move. That was terrible, and he was the team's best receiver by far. Hester and Knox should be no more than slot guys on any halfway decent team. It becomes more and more apparent each year that Martz's crazy ass shit only works if he has All pro talent at the positions he covets.

I agree with Nemy about Floyd on the Niners. The team has enough trouble just getting it out to the current receivers. Floyd's a nice add, but only if he's going to an already established offense to add another wrinkle. For the price he'd command, he'd barely have opportunities out there
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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 29 2011 14:54 GMT
#590
Mike Lombardi just tweeted that the 49ers are out of the Asomugha chase which brings me to ask what exactly have the 49ers done during this shortened FA?

-Resigned Alex Smith
-Overpaid for Ray McDonald
-Signed David Akers
......

QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32161 Posts
July 29 2011 15:05 GMT
#591
Don't forget, we're just gonna release Clements! As overpaid as he is, he's still the best DB... which aint saying a whole lot
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Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
July 29 2011 17:16 GMT
#592
man if Jets get Asomugha.. holy shit. Revis and him would be terrrrrrible. I wish he would go to Dallas though.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
July 29 2011 19:29 GMT
#593
A year ago i was an Eagles fan all excited about having a QB that might be able to actually throw a football instead of run around like a moron. Now i see Mike Vick and Vince Young behind center.

wwwwaaaaah!?!?
yrba1
Profile Joined June 2010
United States325 Posts
July 29 2011 19:32 GMT
#594
On July 29 2011 13:01 Souljah wrote:
Alot of rumors having asomugha (sp?) going to the jets.. fuckin piece of shit niners didn't do a fuckin thing this offseason but get worse..resigned Alex "the bust" Smith.. what a fuckin joke of a franchise.


Looks like the Niners want to win the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
July 29 2011 19:42 GMT
#595
Roy Williams to the Bears!
Twitter: @KingKosi
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 29 2011 19:44 GMT
#596
So the Pats traded their 2012 5th rounder and 2013 5th and 6th rounders to get Ochocinco and Aintworth? Good lord ~_~
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 29 2011 20:17 GMT
#597
On July 30 2011 04:44 Southlight wrote:
So the Pats traded their 2012 5th rounder and 2013 5th and 6th rounders to get Ochocinco and Aintworth? Good lord ~_~



The sad or funny (depending on who you root for) part is, once those two act out in New England, they'll probably have reasonably upped their value enough for the Pats to get 3rds and 4ths.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32161 Posts
July 29 2011 20:37 GMT
#598
On July 30 2011 04:44 Southlight wrote:
So the Pats traded their 2012 5th rounder and 2013 5th and 6th rounders to get Ochocinco and Aintworth? Good lord ~_~


it's not even fair. For that price, why the hell would you not take a shot at either if you're a GM? I don't understand how they don't get outbid in spots like that
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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 21:28:01
July 29 2011 21:27 GMT
#599
On July 30 2011 05:37 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 04:44 Southlight wrote:
So the Pats traded their 2012 5th rounder and 2013 5th and 6th rounders to get Ochocinco and Aintworth? Good lord ~_~


it's not even fair. For that price, why the hell would you not take a shot at either if you're a GM? I don't understand how they don't get outbid in spots like that


Like I said before, if you're a GM for an opposoing team and the Patriots come to make a trade with you, DON'T DO IT, YOU'RE GETTING RIPPED OFF. Even if Ochocinco puts up a stat line of 65/900/6 for the next 3 years and then retires or is released that's more than worth what the avg 5th + 6th rd picks are worth combined.

On July 30 2011 04:32 yrba1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 13:01 Souljah wrote:
Alot of rumors having asomugha (sp?) going to the jets.. fuckin piece of shit niners didn't do a fuckin thing this offseason but get worse..resigned Alex "the bust" Smith.. what a fuckin joke of a franchise.


Looks like the Niners want to win the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.


Nah, I think the Bengals are purposoly gunning for Andrew Luck. Why else would they keep their horrible headcoach, not trade away their semi-effective QB (who would rather retire than play for the team), employ an alcoholic at RB, let their all star DB go to FA, and trade away their waning star receiver for kibbles and bits? Have they done anything at all this FA (I'm not a bengals fan)?
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 22:09:24
July 29 2011 22:07 GMT
#600
According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the Jets are out of the running for Nnamdi Asomougha. Source when I can.

EDIT: Here we go

http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/97062587589599232
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