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Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 10:37:08
July 28 2011 10:30 GMT
#541
Haynesworth to New England for $5 million contract and a 5th rounder.

Blah I was getting antsy with all this free agency going on and nothing happening (for NE). I'm hoping for the best obviously but this isn't a big deal if it doesn't pan out since the cost isn't significant.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 28 2011 15:11 GMT
#542
I'm not sure how I feel about the eagles trading away mikell, the secondary is already pretty weak.

like if the eagles fix their secondary and offensive line, they can make a run at the superbowl
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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 28 2011 15:17 GMT
#543
Note to the NFL: if you make a trade with the Patriots YOU ARE GETTING RIPPED OFF. People are quick to forget how dominant Haynesworth was a few years ago... he's not that old and his body didn't really take much abuse last year. It's such a low risk/high reward trade... man I hate the Pats sometimes.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
July 28 2011 15:18 GMT
#544
Haynesworth will either be owning it up or cut by week 4.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32097 Posts
July 28 2011 15:32 GMT
#545
What's even more scary is that he's playing second fiddle to Wilfork, who is a goddamn beast in his own right. So Fat Albert's big ass isn't even gonna be drawing the top linemen. I'd really be amazed if he's not proven to be at least useful in that situation. And if he doesn't make it, I think it's safe to say that his career is over.
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BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 15:49:14
July 28 2011 15:35 GMT
#546
My Haynesworth prediction: he passes the physicals so the trade with New England goes through. However, at some point during camp Haynesworth acts up again and kicks Haynesworth to the curb. Haynesworth then resigns with Philly as his old line coach will be the last one to take a shot on him and I have no idea how he will do there.

@ eshlow: Not sure if you are keeping up with the news. Rabach, Daniels, and Kemoeatu (reports on Roydell Williams being cut as well but unconfirmed). Stockley no longer coming to DC after he saw they signed 17 billion other WRs. Traded Haynesworth, McNabb, and Jarman. Kelen Clemmons/Josh Williams signed via FA. I am sure I am missing some other names in here.

My thoughts, interesting that they cut Rabach. He was definitely declining in skill but with the QB situation as it I figured they would keep an old hand at C around as that would make the transition easier. The Jarmon trade makes no sense to me. Trading a young plyable DE who showed some great flashes for Jabbar Gaffney? The Dline is one of many weak points and adding another vet WR to the list of 50 others (ok not 50 but they have 13 currently signed) you are signing seems silly. Also not sure I like the Clemmons pickup either. They already have two youngish but not rookie QBs is there really a need for a 3rd? I figure you bring in the big name vet to lead or you bring in the project to sit on your bench while you build him. The rest of the moves make sense to me.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 17:43:25
July 28 2011 17:41 GMT
#547
on nnamdi possibly going to the texans

The Texans are aided in their pursuit of Asomugha by the fact the state of Texas has no state income tax.

lol

also;
reggie bush to miami (no surprises there)
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Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
July 28 2011 17:50 GMT
#548
On July 29 2011 00:11 Palmar wrote:
I'm not sure how I feel about the eagles trading away mikell, the secondary is already pretty weak.

like if the eagles fix their secondary and offensive line, they can make a run at the superbowl

Last I heard, the Eagles are likely to get Domonic Rodgers-Cromartie in their deal of Kolb to the Cards. That was probably the reason they traded Mikell.
It's easier not to.
Rayeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States883 Posts
July 28 2011 18:18 GMT
#549
Reggie to miami is not really surprising.

Haynesworth to the Pats will be something to watch. I don't know what he deal was with the Redskins last year but he was clearly unhappy and made it known by continually not showing up for practices and whatnot. Which led to his being benched and causing all that hubub. Not sure if he'll be happier in NE, but if he is and can get in good shape it might make the Pats even scarier.
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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
July 28 2011 18:56 GMT
#550
holy shit haynesworth to pats lol
and reggie bitch to miami. not too surprised about this
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slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 19:07:13
July 28 2011 19:04 GMT
#551
Cromartie trade has been made, apparently.

Not a great source. But it's been in the works for a while.

EDIT: I think it's a good trade for both teams. Fills big needs at QB with Kolb for Arizona and the left? side of the field for the Eagles with Cromartie. However, I do think that Cromartie is pretty overrated, much like his cousin, Antonio, due to his interception total. When will people realize that the sign of a great Defensive Back is how often they're thrown to?
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32097 Posts
July 28 2011 19:09 GMT
#552
Without Brees, the rest of the O and no Peyton calling everything, Bush is going to be exposed more than he already was as a really overrated and overpaid 3rd down/change of pace back. That's going to be a disaster unless they bring back Brown or some other bigger dude who isn't terrified of hitting the hole.

I also wonder how much success he will find in receiving, one of the few things he did well. No Brees tossing the ball, which made anyone on the field a threat, and Marshall is really the only dude on that offense that merits any kind of game planning. Everyone always says Bush was worth something because you have to account for him on each play (fairly true) but people also forget that safeties already had their hands full between doubling Colston and marking up on Shockey and whichever slot receiver was out there.
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Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 28 2011 19:25 GMT
#553
On July 29 2011 04:09 Hawk wrote:
Without Brees, the rest of the O and no Peyton calling everything, Bush is going to be exposed more than he already was as a really overrated and overpaid 3rd down/change of pace back. That's going to be a disaster unless they bring back Brown or some other bigger dude who isn't terrified of hitting the hole.

I also wonder how much success he will find in receiving, one of the few things he did well. No Brees tossing the ball, which made anyone on the field a threat, and Marshall is really the only dude on that offense that merits any kind of game planning. Everyone always says Bush was worth something because you have to account for him on each play (fairly true) but people also forget that safeties already had their hands full between doubling Colston and marking up on Shockey and whichever slot receiver was out there.


As a Miami fan, and former Reggie Bush hater(he's on my team now k?) I didn't like the move at first but i really makes sense. They drafted Daniel Thomas to fill in Where Brown and Williams left off ( sad I will miss them both) and now they brought in a back to help get the pressure off Henne in passing downs by giving him a threat out of the back field.

I mean Marshall is decent, not as good as he was in denver but still decent. Bess is an amazing Slot receiver, one of the best. And to be honest I think Fasano is underrated overall as a tight end. So I can see this working out. I still think they needed to focus on another WR to compliment Marshall and Bess since Bess isn't really a 2.

I think the real question is if Henne will actually show up this season and not if Reggie was worth the pick up.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32097 Posts
July 28 2011 19:29 GMT
#554
Yeah Henne (or Orton) need to really show up in a big way for anything to happen there.

Personally, I don't think either are people I'd want viewed as a long term answer for my team.

That's really just one of many problems though. RB is another, and expecting a rookie to pick up a lot of slack there can either work or totally backfire.

As far as whether or not the Bush move was worth it, that's really a matter of what they gave up to get him and how much they're paying him.
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Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
July 28 2011 19:43 GMT
#555
I liked Henne when he was behind Pennington and I still really like Henne but if he doesn't produce this year I think it's over in Miami for him. I also don't like the idea of going after Orton. I would much rather just play Thigpen. I also really hoped they would bring back Pennington even to just sit with the headset since he helps Henne so much as a mentor. Idk I was really hyped up on Henne last season but now I'm having issues with him, like you said Idk if he's the long term solution anymore.

I don't think Miami has that many holes to be honest. The team offensively just doesn't mesh well and was confused on its identity last season trying to throw when it should have just been pounding the ball away.

Like I said I didn't like Bush in NO but now that he's a Dolphin I must convert to his fan for the next couple of seasons. We'll see how he pans out.
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Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 20:17:48
July 28 2011 20:07 GMT
#556
On July 28 2011 05:17 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 09:27 Qatol wrote:
On July 27 2011 00:10 Mattchew wrote:
The bears should go after plexico (adding height jumpball guy with all the speed receivers would be devasting to any defense) and maybe that dude from the vikings d-line. other than that I would like to stay put with the team we have

but I would always take asomugha

How do you not want another OL? Carimi is a start, but he's a rookie and the line was godawful last season. Also I'm not convinced Plaxico is fast enough to keep Martz happy. Besides, he's getting up there in age. I'm personally hoping for Malcolm Floyd and stealing a lineman from Atlanta. And resigning Kreutz, Adams, and at least 2 of Tino, Roach, and Iwuh is a must.


I think another O-Line would be nice and would help but isn't 100% nessacary. People underrate our O-Line and overrate its importance in a Mike Martz System. Floyd would be great but come on man its still plax... he would be the redzone threat we need



i hope we keep tino and roach over lwuh (personally)

Go watch the first half of the Giants game again. Cutler was on his back almost every single pass play, and on runs, Forte was consistently running into the Giants DLine behind the line of scrimmage. Cutler was sacked the most out of any QB in the league last season. Right now our two best linemen (probably - can never be sure with rookies) are a rookie who has yet to play a single snap and missed all of the offseason work thanks to the lockout and a 34 year old free agent who we are hoping has enough loyalty to come back to the team.

Is it still plax? How do you know? He hasn't played in 2 years. He's very old for his position. And Floyd has all of his skills but without the drama attached and he's younger. I don't see any reason to grab Plax over Floyd. I have a hard time justifying Plax at all to be honest - I don't think he's worth the roster spot. If you're really worried about red zone efficiency, get some better linemen so the rushing game can become an actual threat to score - right now teams are able to use a very minimal pass rush and load up the end zone and just wait for Cutler to throw it away.

Tino and Roach are great, but keeping both may not be possible. Roach wants the chance to start. Tino doesn't exactly want to give up his starting position. Iwuh costs less than both and is a special teams stud. My personal preference is for Tino and Iwuh - Tino has a higher upside when he isn't hurt and Roach wants a bigger payday then I'd like to see for a backup. Tino is also the only LB I feel comfortable with at MLB if (knock on wood...) Urlacher goes down again.
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tdynasty
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada220 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 20:27:31
July 28 2011 20:26 GMT
#557
One thing I wanna add.

Thank god the players signed.

They hosted a long ass conference call. The call was actually conducted 2 floors below my workstation. I work for the company that hosted the call!

I actually tried to infiltrate the conference but my login for Event Conferences is long forgotten (8 months since I moved from Event).

I heard about the NFL call. I knew on the spot, NLFPA having a call. I was actually pretty upset I took no part of their call. I think it would have been my Dream to Conduct that conference call.

Global Crossing just made NFL get it's ass back into practice season.

I'm still trying to hunt down who conducted that call so I can interogate them.
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
July 28 2011 22:04 GMT
#558
Ochocinco to Patriots. Bill has infinite confidence when it comes to handling people with baggage.
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
July 28 2011 22:37 GMT
#559
Steelers keep Willie Colon -- 5 yrs/ 29 mil. Glad they were able to retain him. Awesome run blocker.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 22:52:38
July 28 2011 22:51 GMT
#560
Stephen Bowen signs with the Redskins instead of resigning with the Cowboys. The Skins just got a solid but not amazing true 3-4 DE. I believe this means the Cowboys are now in the Cullen Jenkins sweepstakes and the Redskins will not be there.
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