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RealDeal
United States117 Posts
On July 27 2011 14:11 GTR wrote: asamougha to the jets would be like jaedong moving to kt lol i really doubt it will happen though. LOL, na wouldn't be that bad. | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On July 27 2011 11:48 eshlow wrote: Ravens cutting Kelley, Heap, McGahee, Mason was pretty surprising but makes sense for them Cowboys cut Marion Barber, Leonard Davis, Roy Williams and Kris Brown... prolly Columbo too. Not too surprising Ravens cuts are pretty much on par with what was expected from them. They are looking to resign some of those guys (Mason/Heap from what I remember) to smaller contracts. Dallas cuts not surprising at all it is reported that cutting Williams and Barber alone freed up 10 million. Also they resigned Doug Free. Colombo will stay if he takes less money. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32044 Posts
On July 27 2011 13:35 nemY wrote: Pretty good deal for the Vikes. McNabb was a probowler 2 years ago and I don't really think Ponder is ready to start yet. 49ers and Raiders are in a bidding war for DaShon Goldson which strikes me as odd... shouldn't the Raiders resign Michael Huff? I would think Huff > Goldson anyday so this strikes me as odd... guess the Raiders feel they can't afford Huff. Oh yeah Takeo Spikes and his huge neck signed with the SD Chargers  Gonna miss him. He was really underrated and a solid performer for the 3 years he was with the 49ers.I think anyone was an improvement over Favre at this point, but I am not sure how McNabb pans out. Granted, he was on the skins last year, but still he did not look so hot. Accuracy was never his thing (the ankle pass above is 100% accurate), and you'd have to imagine he's playing in more of a management type of roll in Minn with AP running. AP, Harvin and Rice if they keep him is a nice core to work with though. Can't forget Dongman at TE either. Don't get the bidding war with Goldson. We have no reason to be in that. | ||
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yrba1
United States325 Posts
On July 27 2011 14:11 GTR wrote: asamougha to the jets would be like jaedong moving to kt lol i really doubt it will happen though. The Jets roster is pretty much a glass cannon at this point. All it takes is one injury and then the dominoes start falling. It would be smarter for the Jets to fix those holes they have at safety at this point. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On July 28 2011 04:32 yrba1 wrote: The Jets roster is pretty much a glass cannon at this point. All it takes is one injury and then the dominoes start falling. It would be smarter for the Jets to fix those holes they have at safety at this point. Don't need safeties with Asomougha and Revis! Just put in two Roy Williams types, haha. Don't the Jets have Jim Leonard and Eric Smith? That's not god awful. Just below average. | ||
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yrba1
United States325 Posts
On July 28 2011 04:51 slyboogie wrote: Don't need safeties with Asomougha and Revis! Just put in two Roy Williams types, haha. Don't the Jets have Jim Leonard and Eric Smith? That's not god awful. Just below average. Even though Revis and Asomugha pair up, it isn't hard to find a hole in that defense, especially with their pretty bad safeties. The Patriots adapted pretty well drafting Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski to exploit that little loophole of the Jets. A second year in Belichick's system and we'll be seeing those guys' stats inflate whenever they play the Jets plus they have a better RB-tandem with Vereen, Woodhead, Green-Ellis, Ridley. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On July 27 2011 09:27 Qatol wrote: How do you not want another OL? Carimi is a start, but he's a rookie and the line was godawful last season. Also I'm not convinced Plaxico is fast enough to keep Martz happy. Besides, he's getting up there in age. I'm personally hoping for Malcolm Floyd and stealing a lineman from Atlanta. And resigning Kreutz, Adams, and at least 2 of Tino, Roach, and Iwuh is a must. I think another O-Line would be nice and would help but isn't 100% nessacary. People underrate our O-Line and overrate its importance in a Mike Martz System. Floyd would be great but come on man its still plax... he would be the redzone threat we need i hope we keep tino and roach over lwuh (personally) | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32044 Posts
also, the Bears oline is god awful | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On July 28 2011 05:03 yrba1 wrote: Even though Revis and Asomugha pair up, it isn't hard to find a hole in that defense, especially with their pretty bad safeties. The Patriots adapted pretty well drafting Aaron Hernandez and Rob Gronkowski to exploit that little loophole of the Jets. A second year in Belichick's system and we'll be seeing those guys' stats inflate whenever they play the Jets plus they have a better RB-tandem with Vereen, Woodhead, Green-Ellis, Ridley. I don't really have a rooting interest for either team, so I don't see how the Patriots work into this discussion. And it isn't like the Jets play the Patriots every week of the season. The point is, Revis/Asomougha would be very very fearsome. Easily better than the Bengals with Hall and Joseph(who I think is a Free Agent?) Besides, I'd rather pay Asomougha a boatload of money than Antonio Cromartie three-quarters of a boat of money. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32044 Posts
On July 28 2011 06:01 slyboogie wrote: I don't really have a rooting interest for either team, so I don't see how the Patriots work into this discussion. And it isn't like the Jets play the Patriots every week of the season. The point is, Revis/Asomougha would be very very fearsome. Easily better than the Bengals with Hall and Joseph(who I think is a Free Agent?) Besides, I'd rather pay Asomougha a boatload of money than Antonio Cromartie three-quarters of a boat of money. The point he is making is that Asomougha and Revis would almost never be covering the TE/RB because that responsibility falls to the safeties and Lbs on occasion, and the Jets safeties are slow and shitty. Many teams carry at least one fast, pass catching TE to exploit this match up from time to time, and some times have flat out dominant TEs who will feast on it. Similarly, any team with a Leon Washington or Reggie Bush type of player coming out of the backfield on a passing route is gonna skull fuck their safeties all day if gameplanned right. Not to mention it's kind of nutty giving franchise money to two CBs when not many teams carry two top flight WRs, trying to just air it out all day to them. There's much better places for them to spend the money | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
Leonard and Smith are slow and shitty? Fine. Then sign....Roman Harper? Dawan Landry? Atari Bigby? C'mon. You wouldn't pay those guys and be happy about it. Now, if you could get Tanard Jackson, that's something. But I don't know if the Jets have shown interest. If the Jets want to spend money on a player who is clearly the best or second best at his position and pair him with another player who is clearly best or second best at their position, that's a philosophical thing. It might represent a loss in potential value and inefficient allocation of financial resources but at least it has a high percentage chance of working out the way the Jets imagine it, which is all you can hope for in a Free Agent signing. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32044 Posts
I do agree that the safety market ain't so hot now (there was even a bidding war for Goldson lol) But I don't think that means you go sink such a huge cost into a second corner. I think he's a damn good player and will work out wherever, but that doesn't make it a good decision based on the team's financial situation and the holes they have elsewhere on the roster. The opponents offense dictates whether or not the 2nd lockdown CB is worth it, not the D. Most teams don't bring someone worth shutting down in that position Frankly, I think they'd be better served by putting that money towards bringing back Edwards (or another one of the good young receivers out there) to help develop Sanchez and give them some sick balance on offense. Find a good but less costly CB and then gameplan for getting a good S either the following offseason or the one after. | ||
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yrba1
United States325 Posts
On July 28 2011 06:01 slyboogie wrote: I don't really have a rooting interest for either team, so I don't see how the Patriots work into this discussion. And it isn't like the Jets play the Patriots every week of the season. The point is, Revis/Asomougha would be very very fearsome. Easily better than the Bengals with Hall and Joseph(who I think is a Free Agent?) Besides, I'd rather pay Asomougha a boatload of money than Antonio Cromartie three-quarters of a boat of money. tl;dr? All it takes to beat that Revis-Asomugha duo are quality receiving TEs, slot receivers, and RBs. Wouldn't be surprised if Antonio Gates puts up 150 yds against those two just because those Jets safeties are pretty garbage | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
You are implying, that a team with Revis and Asomougha is beatable with a good strategy and strong execution. This is a completely pointless statement. No team isn't beatable with a good strategy and strong execution. There is NO safety out there that the Jets could sign that would make their scheme that much stronger against Antonio Gates. They have to take the parts they have and scheme appropriately for a game plan that they know is coming. THAT would be the benefit of a Revis-Asomougha duo. Frankly, it would be a huge strength. What downside(aside from the opportunity cost of the money) is there to having this combination? That Tight Ends are somehow BETTER against you because you signed Asomougha? Ridiculous. Your opportunity cost, assuming its on defense, would be linemen, linebackers and safeties. The Jets linebackers corp is strong. The line is strong. The safeties are weak. Now go look at the 2011 Free Agent class for safeties. Very few of them are good. I guess Gibril Wilson is okay...Quintin Mikell is not bad. Weddle has been resigned, I think. Tanard Jackson is a young stud. Bernard Pollard? Daniel Manning? Yeah. These guys will save you from Antonio Gates, Jermichael Finley and Vernon Davis. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
If he does end up on the Jets that would definitely be a sight to see though. | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
Don't think the Jets will sign Asomugha though. Secondary would be good, butlike sly said who else is there to get? There's decently strong DL left which may help since you could probably get pressure and have some LBs drop back to help in secondary. Rex Ryans problem though I'm sure he can come up with something decent | ||
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