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lol, why always throw our names with people who are in salary cap hell?
If there's one thing you should realize by now it's that we have experts manipulating our salary figures so we actually have some room to maneuver.
But yeah, hopefully with Bruce Allen in we actually make good decisions now with our money instead of the abominations like Haynesworth
I half expect us to cut more of our crappy veteran players, and get more youth now that shannahan did massive drafting stuff. Also, I'm sure that there's ways to restructure player salaries to not count against the cap as well so we'll see.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/37327/looking-at-2011-salary-cap-figures
Only Jets, Giants, Dallas, Green Bay are over the limit
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Yeah Kluwe's response was damn good actually, even if punters are little shits no matter how good they are
Jets got some decisions to make if they wanna get under:
Shaun Ellis
Steve Weatherford
Brodney Pool
Tony Richardson
Braylon Edwards
Wayne Hunter
Trevor Pryce
Antonio Cromartie
Lance Laury
Santonio Holmes
Eric Smith
Brad Smith
Drew Coleman
Kellen Clemens
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On July 26 2011 04:58 eshlow wrote:lol, why always throw our names with people who are in salary cap hell? If there's one thing you should realize by now it's that we have experts manipulating our salary figures so we actually have some room to maneuver. But yeah, hopefully with Bruce Allen in we actually make good decisions now with our money instead of the abominations like Haynesworth I half expect us to cut more of our crappy veteran players, and get more youth now that shannahan did massive drafting stuff. Also, I'm sure that there's ways to restructure player salaries to not count against the cap as well so we'll see. http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/37327/looking-at-2011-salary-cap-figuresOnly Jets, Giants, Dallas, Green Bay are over the limit
While the Skins are under the cap this year and have better people running the organization Cerato/Snyder basically established DC as a place with absolutely horrendous cap management. If it wasn't for the uncapped year (where they payed off massive amounts of guarantied money upfront, the Skins would still up to their eyeballs in cap issues.
That being said, speculation on the teams over the cap is a bit premature at this point. I imagine most of those teams have a number of contracts they can cut or restructure but have not had the opportunity to do so yet. Much like no one expects Haynesworth or McNabb to still be in DC by the end of camp but they are still on the Skins payroll (and they would both have been long gone if not for the lockout).
On a semi-related note - Free agency is going to extremely fun to watch. Anyone care to provide an over/under for the number of deals announced by 6:05 PM Friday (6PM Friday is when Free Agency is set to open)? Or an over/under on the number of deals whose announcements are missed due to the big names flooding Friday so no one notices until Saturday?
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Haha im not sure if i like or hate Kluwe. An amazing statement considering he's a punter.
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Washington is a disaster from top to bottom. No idea why shanny thought it would be a good idea to go there.
FA opening day is gonna be pretty whacky. I don't even remember who the big names are right now.
Who, if any, do the Jets keep out of Edwards, Holmes and Smith?? I think Edwards has the better physical toolset, but Holmes is just a flat out better receiver.
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On July 26 2011 05:55 Hawk wrote:
Washington is a disaster from top to bottom. No idea why shanny thought it would be a good idea to go there.
FA opening day is gonna be pretty whacky. I don't even remember who the big names are right now.
Who, if any, do the Jets keep out of Edwards, Holmes and Smith?? I think Edwards has the better physical toolset, but Holmes is just a flat out better receiver.
If I am the Jets I sign up Edwards day 1 and elt the rest of the NFL fight over Homes. Dan Snyder will be in the business of acquiring Homes and only 2 people win in a bidding war with Dan Snyder. The player and his agent.
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What the hell is happening with the Redskins QB situation anyway?
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On July 26 2011 06:29 DannyJ wrote:
What the hell is happening with the Redskins QB situation anyway?
We're about to find out a LOT in the next week... /popcorn!!
My favorite part (if correct of course) is that teams must payout at least 89% of that 120 mil cap!
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On July 26 2011 06:29 DannyJ wrote:
What the hell is happening with the Redskins QB situation anyway?
According to a radio interview today with John Beck, they WILL resign Rex Grossman and it will be an open competition between Grossman and Beck. That is straight from Beck's mouth.
As for speculation, McNabb is 100% gone either by trade or being cut. McNabb earns $10 million if he makes the opening day roster and there is zero chance the Redskins are paying him that to hold a clipboard for them. As such, I doubt McNabb will go in the intial trade/free agent frenzy. Best case for DC, someone who wants a veteran starting QB (Arizona/Minn for example) somehow fails to pick one up in the early FA/trade rush. Other shot for DC is that a good playoff caliber team has a QB go down during preseason and they want to pick one up to keep their playoff hopes high.
All things said, Haynesworth has a massively significant better shot staying in DC than McNabb and I give Haynesworth about a 5% chance of staying in town
As a Dallas fan in the DC area, this has been me watching these sagas develop: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/eZjb2.gif)
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On July 26 2011 05:46 BloodNinja wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 04:58 eshlow wrote:lol, why always throw our names with people who are in salary cap hell? If there's one thing you should realize by now it's that we have experts manipulating our salary figures so we actually have some room to maneuver. But yeah, hopefully with Bruce Allen in we actually make good decisions now with our money instead of the abominations like Haynesworth I half expect us to cut more of our crappy veteran players, and get more youth now that shannahan did massive drafting stuff. Also, I'm sure that there's ways to restructure player salaries to not count against the cap as well so we'll see. http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/37327/looking-at-2011-salary-cap-figuresOnly Jets, Giants, Dallas, Green Bay are over the limit While the Skins are under the cap this year and have better people running the organization Cerato/Snyder basically established DC as a place with absolutely horrendous cap management. If it wasn't for the uncapped year (where they payed off massive amounts of guarantied money upfront, the Skins would still up to their eyeballs in cap issues. That being said, speculation on the teams over the cap is a bit premature at this point. I imagine most of those teams have a number of contracts they can cut or restructure but have not had the opportunity to do so yet. Much like no one expects Haynesworth or McNabb to still be in DC by the end of camp but they are still on the Skins payroll (and they would both have been long gone if not for the lockout). On a semi-related note - Free agency is going to extremely fun to watch. Anyone care to provide an over/under for the number of deals announced by 6:05 PM Friday (6PM Friday is when Free Agency is set to open)? Or an over/under on the number of deals whose announcements are missed due to the big names flooding Friday so no one notices until Saturday?
Again, not really. Having experienced "cap hell" for the past decade I can say that we have never really been in trouble with the cap because of the loopholes that whoever Dan Snyder was paying were finding.
Of course, the uncapped year was pretty good for us to jettison most of Haynesworth's contract which was nice. I actually expect us to keep Haynesworth (on the bench) unless we get compensation, but I do see us jettisoning McNabb.
On July 26 2011 05:55 Hawk wrote:
Washington is a disaster from top to bottom. No idea why shanny thought it would be a good idea to go there.
FA opening day is gonna be pretty whacky. I don't even remember who the big names are right now.
Who, if any, do the Jets keep out of Edwards, Holmes and Smith?? I think Edwards has the better physical toolset, but Holmes is just a flat out better receiver.
I'm guessing he liked that Snyder actually hired a competent GM (Allen) and got rid of Cerrato. Plus, he likes that Snyder is willing to spend the money if he wants someone.
Although again, we haven't ACTUALLY made a big free agent splash since Allen/Shanny have been here contrary to popular belief.
I think we will resign moss over trying to sign these guys though. Although moss isn't a top receiver, he is still productive and that would leave us more money to sign some much needed Oline help.
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On July 26 2011 06:29 DannyJ wrote:
What the hell is happening with the Redskins QB situation anyway?
Pretty sure we are going with an open competition between Beck and Grossman.
It is huffington post but it's a good article on why the Beck gamble.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hank-koebler/redskins-beck-experiment-_b_905022.html
Played Grossman at the end of last season to see what we have. Pretty much just another mediocre QB.
I expect to see an open competition in preseason with Beck and a resigned Grossman
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On July 26 2011 08:31 BloodNinja wrote:
As for speculation, McNabb is 100% gone either by trade or being cut. McNabb earns $10 million if he makes the opening day roster and there is zero chance the Redskins are paying him that to hold a clipboard for them. As such, I doubt McNabb will go in the intial trade/free agent frenzy. Best case for DC, someone who wants a veteran starting QB (Arizona/Minn for example) somehow fails to pick one up in the early FA/trade rush. Other shot for DC is that a good playoff caliber team has a QB go down during preseason and they want to pick one up to keep their playoff hopes high.
I could see McNabb going to someone like the Colts if Manning isn't ready for the regular season. He makes that team, but if it means they might win 1, 2, or 3 games that Manning thinks he might miss, he might be worth 10 mil of 120.
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Likely scenario for Redskins (in my mind)
~Trade off McNabb if possible for a draft pick, otherwise cut him
~Trade off Haynesworth for compensation, otherwise sit him again. Better than someone like Philly getting him which I am sure Bloodninja will agree with him being a Dallas fan.
~Resign Moss (he knows system, is fairly productive)
~Pretty sure we won't be resigning Rogers, McIntosh; will likely go with the younger guys behind since they didn't seem too bad at the end of last year
~Use FA money 1-2 Olinemen
~open competition between Beck + resigned Grossman
~we used a lot of our (surprisingly 10) draft picks on receivers+RBs so it looks like that will be open competition there
Therefore:
Defense looks to be a bit better going into year 2 in 3-4 scheme with a true FS in Atogwe. Landry will be back and healthy hopefully playing at probowl level. Biggest issue is NT (we have good rotation at 3-4 DE with carriker + rotation) + getting a quality inside linebacker since McIntosh was decent but a much better OLB in 4-3. I might see us trying to get a FA at ILB or NT.
Offense as pretty much already stated QB is competition, Skill positions at WR/RB will be competition with young guys for draft picks. I expect us to use FA to address some of the Oline.
So basically I likely think we get FA help at NT/Dline, ILB, or Oline. I am not expecting us to go after any of the lots of FA WRs even though everyone keeps saying we will. If we do I'm gonna facepalm.
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I'd be interested to see what kind of analysis you would see on how your guys' teams address free agency!
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The Redskins under Cerato and Snyder were most definitely under cap hell. Every season they needed to renegotiate major contracts. The end result was contracts like Clinton Portis who was owed around $15 million in guaranteed money for his final year in DC. The Redskins (among other teams) really lucked out on the with the uncapped year. They used that year to pay off massive amounts guaranteed contracts upfront.
This is what gave the Redskins the ability to cut older expensive players (like Portis) in the end. They no longer owed massive amounts of guaranteed money to these vets so they were free to cut them without cap repercussions.
As for Shannahan's decision to come to DC. Its pretty simple, Danny Boy wanted a big name coach this time around and Shannahan wanted to coach again with complete personnel control. Both of them got their wish. While Allen is the "GM", its in name only, Allen is a cap specialist who is great at fitting his coach's players into a salary cap. He is not there to control personnel like most other GMs.
For DC's FA plans, if I was Shannahan I would let Moss walk and try to get a young good reciever not named Holmes. Its gonna be hard to sell your team to a WR when you say your QB is Beck/Grossman. That said I would just go all-in on defense. I doubt there is true NT out there but there are other players that might be able to convert. I would try to emulate the Ravens SB team as much as possible, build an amazing defense and build a simple but efficient ground based offense.
On that note I will get into the Cowboys needs a bit later. They do have some holes to fill but they also has some aging vets they can trade/release to free up cap room.
PS - Who actually wants Tiki Barber? I dont think I have seen anyone burn away goodwill that fast in a while. The amount of people who want to see him fail is huge and I understand them.
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As a long time Jets fan, im hoping they finally make the push this year. Championship caliber team 2 years in a row. biggest downfall is the talking.. granted it makes for exciting tv, but once they eliminate that and focus on the game they will win it all.
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On July 26 2011 11:13 xDAYMANx wrote:
As a long time Jets fan, im hoping they finally make the push this year. Championship caliber team 2 years in a row. biggest downfall is the talking.. granted it makes for exciting tv, but once they eliminate that and focus on the game they will win it all.
I dunno. I think Rex Ryan's talking takes a lot of pressure off the team. They never get asked the hard questions, they get asked the stupid questions about some stupid quote.
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