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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32113 Posts
May 01 2011 17:48 GMT
#461
On April 30 2011 08:24 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 08:20 darmousseh wrote:
So picking Kapernick is a signal to me that they are going to use smith this year and develop kapernick. They will probably pick up a vet quaterback for backup. I think kapernick starts the year after if he's ready.


I think Smith was going to get signed no matter what, but once again, the only offensive coach Alex Smith ever had was Norv Turner and Smith played very well that season til he left, with Harbaugh in, I wouldn't be surprised if Alex Smith actually bloomed to be a solid, accurate passer, our playbook has been total shit for years since Norv left.

I'm hoping Kaepernick doesn't start this season. But gets clean up time and hopefully a week 16 start due to playoffs being locked up.


as bad as the playcalling has been, Smith is just plain old shit. Crap arm strength, wildly inconsistent with 15+yd throws as far as accuracy, is touted as a smart player when he's anything but... please give me david carr instead of ever seeing that idiot in a niners jersey again. At least Carr is a man as proven by him always playing through 8 sacks a game in Texas... Smith such a little sissy it's incredible. The dude gets mentally rattled over the littlest things

and that once season with Norv was not anything spectacular. It's certainly worth noting that Gore had nearly 1,700 on the ground alone plus nearly another 500 in the air... any NFL level qb, regardless of experience, should be able to hit the benchmarks he did in that season with Gore being as dominant as he was.

Gah I looked up Smith's wiki while writing this and got to view the nice quote that retard egomaniac Mike Nolan said about not drafting Rodgers because he couldn't get along with that attitude. FUCK YOU.

Id take any other vet at this point over him, if only just to move on past that huge mistake.

Kaepernick, I was not too crazy about. But the sooner he sees the field, the better imo. You can only gain so much from studying film and the playbook. The sooner he gets used to playing with the team in real situations, the better he'll be off

I'd take any random fill in vet over Smith at this point
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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 02 2011 01:38 GMT
#462
On May 01 2011 16:25 Qatol wrote:
I'm extremely disappointed in the Bears draft picks this year after the first 2 rounds. I'm pissed that Angelo didn't pick up a second lineman this year even though they had the WORST line in the league last year. Instead he spends ANOTHER pick on a safety (he has grabbed one in 9 of the last 10 drafts). That 3rd rounder could have been MUCH better used on an interior lineman. Also, he spent another pick on a 3rd string QB, even though he did that last year and cut the guy before the season started. Now Chicago NEEDS to make a splash in the offensive line free agent market or risk getting Cutler killed out there. And they already had to make a splash to find a big WR and a #2 CB.

Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 15:26 GTR wrote:
rumors flying around denver that they will straight up trade orton for haynesworth.

with denver not drafting a dt, this is pretty damn plausible.

This is very surprising to me. Orton is much higher value than Haynesworth at this point. Unless there are picks or more players being thrown in, Quinn for Haynesworth would make a lot more sense.


The problem with that is... Brady Quinn sucks.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
May 02 2011 08:27 GMT
#463
The falcons move is pretty shocking. So much value given away. I think the owner has convinced himself that his team is a bit better in totality than it actaully is...
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32113 Posts
May 02 2011 13:39 GMT
#464
I agree. I still think Green is the better player, but Jones has some serious upside. Physically, he reminds me of a young TO or a Boldin type player who is just dominating with the ball. The dude has a serious case of the dropsies though... and even if he didn't have that, that's still a shitload of stuff to give up for a guy who isn't even the clear cut best at his position in the draft.
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Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 02 2011 17:59 GMT
#465
On May 02 2011 10:38 nemY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 16:25 Qatol wrote:
I'm extremely disappointed in the Bears draft picks this year after the first 2 rounds. I'm pissed that Angelo didn't pick up a second lineman this year even though they had the WORST line in the league last year. Instead he spends ANOTHER pick on a safety (he has grabbed one in 9 of the last 10 drafts). That 3rd rounder could have been MUCH better used on an interior lineman. Also, he spent another pick on a 3rd string QB, even though he did that last year and cut the guy before the season started. Now Chicago NEEDS to make a splash in the offensive line free agent market or risk getting Cutler killed out there. And they already had to make a splash to find a big WR and a #2 CB.

On May 01 2011 15:26 GTR wrote:
rumors flying around denver that they will straight up trade orton for haynesworth.

with denver not drafting a dt, this is pretty damn plausible.

This is very surprising to me. Orton is much higher value than Haynesworth at this point. Unless there are picks or more players being thrown in, Quinn for Haynesworth would make a lot more sense.


The problem with that is... Brady Quinn sucks.

And Haynesworth missed most of training camp because he couldn't pass a conditioning test even I can pass. Plus the guy played 8 games (eventually getting suspended for "conduct detrimental to the club") and got 13 tackles and 2.5 sacks for the season. Trading Orton for that would be vastly overpaying.
Uff Da
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 18:24:53
May 02 2011 18:18 GMT
#466
On May 03 2011 02:59 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 10:38 nemY wrote:
On May 01 2011 16:25 Qatol wrote:
I'm extremely disappointed in the Bears draft picks this year after the first 2 rounds. I'm pissed that Angelo didn't pick up a second lineman this year even though they had the WORST line in the league last year. Instead he spends ANOTHER pick on a safety (he has grabbed one in 9 of the last 10 drafts). That 3rd rounder could have been MUCH better used on an interior lineman. Also, he spent another pick on a 3rd string QB, even though he did that last year and cut the guy before the season started. Now Chicago NEEDS to make a splash in the offensive line free agent market or risk getting Cutler killed out there. And they already had to make a splash to find a big WR and a #2 CB.

On May 01 2011 15:26 GTR wrote:
rumors flying around denver that they will straight up trade orton for haynesworth.

with denver not drafting a dt, this is pretty damn plausible.

This is very surprising to me. Orton is much higher value than Haynesworth at this point. Unless there are picks or more players being thrown in, Quinn for Haynesworth would make a lot more sense.


The problem with that is... Brady Quinn sucks.

And Haynesworth missed most of training camp because he couldn't pass a conditioning test even I can pass. Plus the guy played 8 games (eventually getting suspended for "conduct detrimental to the club") and got 13 tackles and 2.5 sacks for the season. Trading Orton for that would be vastly overpaying.


Another piece to consider is that Haynesworth's contract is pretty much dirt cheap moving forward. The Redskins used the uncapped year and paid Haynesworth a bunch of money to make the yearly salary extremely managable. If a 4-3 team takes a flyer and trades for him and gets any production out of him at all, they will win big. That said, there are some pretty IFs in that statement.

Edit - I actually like the Cowboys draft this year. They finally drafted a much needed OT and they got one who will play from day 1. Beyond that, they filled some needs but didnt reach for them. Instead of reaching they picked up some quality players that may not have been a need but certainly could become starters in a couple years.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 02 2011 19:16 GMT
#467
"We are petitioning the NFL to let Sam wear number five, so he can be Sam Acho Cinco.''
-- Arizona coach Ken Whisenhunt, after drafting linebacker Sam Acho in the fourth round Saturday
.

omg lol
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
May 02 2011 19:24 GMT
#468
On May 01 2011 15:26 GTR wrote:
rumors flying around denver that they will straight up trade orton for haynesworth.

with denver not drafting a dt, this is pretty damn plausible.


Some guy called into a radio station in Detroit once, and was seriously saying that the Lions should trade Ndamukong Suh for Haynesworth.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
May 02 2011 19:27 GMT
#469
On May 03 2011 04:24 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 15:26 GTR wrote:
rumors flying around denver that they will straight up trade orton for haynesworth.

with denver not drafting a dt, this is pretty damn plausible.


Some guy called into a radio station in Detroit once, and was seriously saying that the Lions should trade Ndamukong Suh for Haynesworth.


Ladies and gentlemen, your eternal doormats.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
May 02 2011 19:43 GMT
#470
On May 03 2011 04:24 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 15:26 GTR wrote:
rumors flying around denver that they will straight up trade orton for haynesworth.

with denver not drafting a dt, this is pretty damn plausible.


Some guy called into a radio station in Detroit once, and was seriously saying that the Lions should trade Ndamukong Suh for Haynesworth.


Awhile ago, there was big talk in the DC area about a trade with Detriot involving draft picks. Dc would get picks, Detriot would get Haynesworth, and Haynesworth would get the coach he loved back.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51528 Posts
May 27 2011 02:21 GMT
#471
this is why the lockout needs to end now

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d82007c1a/The-Sanch-ini
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
May 27 2011 03:15 GMT
#472
On May 27 2011 11:21 GTR wrote:
this is why the lockout needs to end now

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d82007c1a/The-Sanch-ini


Jesus. The NFL Network is pretty desperate to fill airspace if they have to talk about that -_-'
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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-27 03:30:30
May 27 2011 03:29 GMT
#473
so plaxico to philly possibly?

dam my team picking up all da inmates

On May 27 2011 11:21 GTR wrote:
this is why the lockout needs to end now

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d82007c1a/The-Sanch-ini


wtf lol
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
May 27 2011 03:44 GMT
#474
On May 27 2011 12:29 sung_moon wrote:
so plaxico to philly possibly?

dam my team picking up all da inmates

Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 11:21 GTR wrote:
this is why the lockout needs to end now

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d82007c1a/The-Sanch-ini


wtf lol


God i hope the Eagles take Burress. We already have the most ghetto trash team ever and if he could work back to his old level might as well. Having a "big" WR would be amazing, and no Riley Cooper doesn't count.
yrba1
Profile Joined June 2010
United States325 Posts
July 15 2011 04:15 GMT
#475
NFL Owners/players agree to Rookie Wage scale here
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2011-07-14-rookie-wage-scale-lockout_n.htm

No more ridiculous JaMarcus Russell, Matthew Stafford, Sam Bradford-esque rookie contracts

NFL salary cap at $120 million
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6768521/nfl-lockout-owners-players-moving-towards-cba-settlement-source-says

Looks like Dallas and Washington are going to have a hefty time dealing with their roster.


Now we just need these CBA agreements to be intact and they can get on with our lives and we don't have to be annoyed by their constant bickering any longer.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32113 Posts
July 22 2011 00:41 GMT
#476
The Minnasota punter, Kluwe, took some shots at Brees and Manning the other day and this writer/former nfler laid the goddamn smackdown in response to that

http://deadspin.com/5823549/dear-chris-kluwe-when-we-want-the-punters-opinion-well-ask-for-it-we-wont
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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
July 22 2011 04:37 GMT
#477
On July 15 2011 13:15 yrba1 wrote:
NFL Owners/players agree to Rookie Wage scale here
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2011-07-14-rookie-wage-scale-lockout_n.htm

No more ridiculous JaMarcus Russell, Matthew Stafford, Sam Bradford-esque rookie contracts

NFL salary cap at $120 million
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6768521/nfl-lockout-owners-players-moving-towards-cba-settlement-source-says

Looks like Dallas and Washington are going to have a hefty time dealing with their roster.


Now we just need these CBA agreements to be intact and they can get on with our lives and we don't have to be annoyed by their constant bickering any longer.


I'm actually under the impression that Washington has A LOT of cap room to play with. Still though it's Washington, I can see them squandering away whatever cap space they have regardless.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51528 Posts
July 22 2011 06:06 GMT
#478
haynesworth is like 10% of their cap rofl
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yrba1
Profile Joined June 2010
United States325 Posts
July 25 2011 19:41 GMT
#479
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FOOTBALL SEASON IS BACK BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32113 Posts
July 25 2011 19:51 GMT
#480
On May 27 2011 12:44 DannyJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2011 12:29 sung_moon wrote:
so plaxico to philly possibly?

dam my team picking up all da inmates

On May 27 2011 11:21 GTR wrote:
this is why the lockout needs to end now

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d82007c1a/The-Sanch-ini


wtf lol


God i hope the Eagles take Burress. We already have the most ghetto trash team ever and if he could work back to his old level might as well. Having a "big" WR would be amazing, and no Riley Cooper doesn't count.


That would either be a feast or famine type of deal there with him. It would give the eagles a long ball guy who can pluck it out of the air, and Burress would probably face single coverage all day as a #2 or slot guy with safety going to Djax. However, there's the issue of his stupid huge ego, and the fact and integrating him into a limited offense that is catered to Vick's skillsets.

Vick-Jackson works because Djax has got the speed to get under the many passes that Vick is off target with. Burress is a guy who is better suited to punishing small corners with passes that are thrown to an area where he and only he can go get it. Vick, even with improvements, is not the type of guy who can finesse it into those spots consistently.
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