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PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
February 24 2012 05:57 GMT
#8281
I am actually kinda hyped for the HUGE patch notelist. Thought that after the game was bought the game hasn't been updated too often but I guess they just wants to get as much information from games and then do mass changes if needed ^ ^
altered
Profile Joined March 2008
Switzerland646 Posts
February 24 2012 06:52 GMT
#8282
a quote from zh1nt0s news post:
M4: Increased vertical recoil, reduced horizontal recoil. The Burst only M4 should now feel different to its automatic sibling, the reduced horizontal recoil emphasizes the greater control you have in burst fire.

M16A4: Increased vertical recoil, reduced horizontal recoil. The Burst only M16A4 should now feel different to its automatic sibling, the reduced horizontal recoil emphasizes the greater control you have in burst fire.


That sounds like a nice buff to me. The M4 and M16A4 will be the guns with the least Hrecoil and fastest reload time. I already use the M4A1 exclusively when i play engineer, after the patch it wil be the M4 for shure.
Also, although it hurts my heart, the M16A4 could possibly replace the AN94 as my main assault weapon once i reach service star 100 with it (3410 kills to go).
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Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
February 24 2012 07:35 GMT
#8283
I'm not sure I understand the Heavy Barrel > Suppressor argument. Does the Heavy Barrel stop you from showing up on the map? I'm hearing some people say that they're gonna switch from suppressor to heavy barrel now...
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 07:40:41
February 24 2012 07:40 GMT
#8284
Heavy barrel for mid to long range suppressor for short range. imo im liking flash suppressor tho.. i'll have to do tests with l85 to see what I want to use
hihihi
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
February 24 2012 07:41 GMT
#8285
On February 24 2012 16:40 askTeivospy wrote:
Heavy barrel for mid to long range suppressor for short range


The reason I used suppressor is to avoid showing up on the map...

Well, I guess if heavy barrel is meant for mid/long range, showing up on the map isn't that big of deal. Too bad though; I was playing with suppressor for short/mid/mid-long range.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 08:04:43
February 24 2012 08:01 GMT
#8286
On February 24 2012 16:41 Karliath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 16:40 askTeivospy wrote:
Heavy barrel for mid to long range suppressor for short range


The reason I used suppressor is to avoid showing up on the map...

Well, I guess if heavy barrel is meant for mid/long range, showing up on the map isn't that big of deal. Too bad though; I was playing with suppressor for short/mid/mid-long range.


honestly i think suppressor is kinda overrated, considering I see people pop up on the minimap ALL the time even when they're not firing / not being spotted (as far as I can tell). Maybe its the MAV motion sensor idk
hihihi
DevilTheory
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia14 Posts
February 24 2012 08:17 GMT
#8287
On January 06 2011 06:38 SamGamgee wrote:
BF3 is gonna be great.

They said it will be PC first, so it has a chance to be great.


Heres hoping
gn1k
Profile Joined July 2010
United States441 Posts
February 24 2012 10:49 GMT
#8288
I am way excited to play the new patch. It will be so different.
I love that you can't just mow people down with the MAV all day. That was so unrealistic.
I am going to get a lot of use out of the buffed med kit. :D
Creator of Street Empires and APM TD
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
February 24 2012 11:11 GMT
#8289
It's been about a week now that I've been playing BF3, and while I'm doing good with vehicles, I'm having difficulties with infantry combat. Mind you, I've done perfectly fine in previous Battlefield games with great scores in infantry combat across all kits, so I'm not stumbling into this with zero experience.

I oftentimes simply don't see enemies. I'll wander around the map, suddenly someone kills me and I have no idea where the guy was or came from. Even on the kill cam, I'll sometimes have trouble actually spotting a soldier from the background. I'm not colorblind, and I'm at a loss here. Is everyone using specific camo for specific maps? Or does everyone but me have IR sights?
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
February 24 2012 13:55 GMT
#8290
On February 24 2012 15:52 altered wrote:
a quote from zh1nt0s news post:
Show nested quote +
M4: Increased vertical recoil, reduced horizontal recoil. The Burst only M4 should now feel different to its automatic sibling, the reduced horizontal recoil emphasizes the greater control you have in burst fire.

M16A4: Increased vertical recoil, reduced horizontal recoil. The Burst only M16A4 should now feel different to its automatic sibling, the reduced horizontal recoil emphasizes the greater control you have in burst fire.


That sounds like a nice buff to me. The M4 and M16A4 will be the guns with the least Hrecoil and fastest reload time. I already use the M4A1 exclusively when i play engineer, after the patch it wil be the M4 for shure.
Also, although it hurts my heart, the M16A4 could possibly replace the AN94 as my main assault weapon once i reach service star 100 with it (3410 kills to go).


Is that you, Sean Connery?
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
February 24 2012 14:47 GMT
#8291
On February 24 2012 09:50 askTeivospy wrote:
Show nested quote +
-AA Missiles are more difficult to dodge in Jets, this was unintended behavior that created an imbalance against skilled pilots.


fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Show nested quote +
-AA Missiles should no longer kill the pilot instead of the vehicle.
-Reduced the damage AA missiles do to jets to 45%.
-The IGLA and Stinger now lock on much more quickly and disable an attack aircraft in 1 hit, but have significantly reduced range. This should allow Stingers to mount an effective close range point defense, without dominating an entire airspace.
-Guided Rockets will now only track ground targets, as originally intended.
-Slightly reduced the damage of Jet cannons against Aircraft. Damage is now only slightly higher than it was originally at launch.

-Flares for Jets and Choppers now reload at 11 seconds again, except for the gunner, which remains unchanged at 20sec.
-Below Radar will now also prevent the lock on of Stinger and IGLA missiles.
-Flares now more reliably distract missiles, especially for Helicopters.
-Laser Guided missiles can now be distracted by Flares.

tytytyty

Show nested quote +
-Increased the speed of the Helicopter AA missiles lock on to reduce the tedious nature of Helicopter dogfights and improve the Helicopter's defensive abilities vs Jets.
-Flares will no longer break the lock of a vehicle that is locked on, it will only distract the missiles.
-Increased the locking distance for AGM Missiles for Jets when locking on laser designated targets.
-Reduced the locking time for the AGM Missiles for Jets to make them more viable against ground targets.
-Reduced the locking time for AA Missiles for Jets to make them more viable against air targets.
-Fixed the SU-35 firing Air to Air missiles at a lower rate of fire than other vehicles.
-Adjusted the F35's Center of Mass and Hover Engine for more stable, level flight in all flight modes.
-Updated the F35 weapon systems to be consistent with the other Jets.
-The F35 will now only attempt to enter Hover at low altitudes, though it will maintain the hover until forward flight is resumed, even if it reaches high altitude.
-The F35 and SU35 now properly have Ejection seats to prevent players from being killed when exiting the vehicle.
-The MAV will no longer destroy vehicles that run into it, instead it should be destroyed.
-Jet and Helicopter collisions should now properly result in the death of both vehicles.
-Players will no longer receive suicides or team kills if they crash their vehicle (dying is punishment enough).
-Fixed several bugs with air vehicles colliding with objects at high speeds and taking no damage.


w/e

to be fair, I was upsetting people by dodging their stingers over and over continuously without flares and then telling them they just spent millions of e-dollars that could have been used for e-textbooks by trying to shoot me down so I guess that nerf is ok ^>^ The buffs are really good, ESPECIALLY that jet cannon nerf. stupid how 90% of my deaths were from disables because people shooting at me as we flew by each other


by cannons does this mean guns, missiles or pods??
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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
February 24 2012 16:27 GMT
#8292
On February 24 2012 23:47 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 09:50 askTeivospy wrote:
-AA Missiles are more difficult to dodge in Jets, this was unintended behavior that created an imbalance against skilled pilots.


fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

-AA Missiles should no longer kill the pilot instead of the vehicle.
-Reduced the damage AA missiles do to jets to 45%.
-The IGLA and Stinger now lock on much more quickly and disable an attack aircraft in 1 hit, but have significantly reduced range. This should allow Stingers to mount an effective close range point defense, without dominating an entire airspace.
-Guided Rockets will now only track ground targets, as originally intended.
-Slightly reduced the damage of Jet cannons against Aircraft. Damage is now only slightly higher than it was originally at launch.

-Flares for Jets and Choppers now reload at 11 seconds again, except for the gunner, which remains unchanged at 20sec.
-Below Radar will now also prevent the lock on of Stinger and IGLA missiles.
-Flares now more reliably distract missiles, especially for Helicopters.
-Laser Guided missiles can now be distracted by Flares.

tytytyty

-Increased the speed of the Helicopter AA missiles lock on to reduce the tedious nature of Helicopter dogfights and improve the Helicopter's defensive abilities vs Jets.
-Flares will no longer break the lock of a vehicle that is locked on, it will only distract the missiles.
-Increased the locking distance for AGM Missiles for Jets when locking on laser designated targets.
-Reduced the locking time for the AGM Missiles for Jets to make them more viable against ground targets.
-Reduced the locking time for AA Missiles for Jets to make them more viable against air targets.
-Fixed the SU-35 firing Air to Air missiles at a lower rate of fire than other vehicles.
-Adjusted the F35's Center of Mass and Hover Engine for more stable, level flight in all flight modes.
-Updated the F35 weapon systems to be consistent with the other Jets.
-The F35 will now only attempt to enter Hover at low altitudes, though it will maintain the hover until forward flight is resumed, even if it reaches high altitude.
-The F35 and SU35 now properly have Ejection seats to prevent players from being killed when exiting the vehicle.
-The MAV will no longer destroy vehicles that run into it, instead it should be destroyed.
-Jet and Helicopter collisions should now properly result in the death of both vehicles.
-Players will no longer receive suicides or team kills if they crash their vehicle (dying is punishment enough).
-Fixed several bugs with air vehicles colliding with objects at high speeds and taking no damage.


w/e

to be fair, I was upsetting people by dodging their stingers over and over continuously without flares and then telling them they just spent millions of e-dollars that could have been used for e-textbooks by trying to shoot me down so I guess that nerf is ok ^>^ The buffs are really good, ESPECIALLY that jet cannon nerf. stupid how 90% of my deaths were from disables because people shooting at me as we flew by each other


by cannons does this mean guns, missiles or pods??


My guess would be main guns. Not missiles.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
February 24 2012 16:39 GMT
#8293
Oh that is fucking stupid. It wasn't that high to begin with and it requires way more skill to strafe something with that than it does to lock a missle. Bleh.
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heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
February 24 2012 16:46 GMT
#8294
As a guy who mainly flys around in Vipers and the Russian equivalent, I love those changes.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
February 24 2012 16:50 GMT
#8295
On February 25 2012 01:46 heishe wrote:
As a guy who mainly flys around in Vipers and the Russian equivalent, I love those changes.


I'm just gonna kamakaze you jerks more frequently now!

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Rob28
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada705 Posts
February 24 2012 18:25 GMT
#8296
On February 25 2012 01:50 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 01:46 heishe wrote:
As a guy who mainly flys around in Vipers and the Russian equivalent, I love those changes.


I'm just gonna kamakaze you jerks more frequently now!



Make sure you pack that jet with C4 for that extra special pyrotechnics surprise.
"power overwhelming"... work, dammit, work!
altered
Profile Joined March 2008
Switzerland646 Posts
February 24 2012 18:50 GMT
#8297
On February 24 2012 22:55 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 15:52 altered wrote:
a quote from zh1nt0s news post:
M4: Increased vertical recoil, reduced horizontal recoil. The Burst only M4 should now feel different to its automatic sibling, the reduced horizontal recoil emphasizes the greater control you have in burst fire.

M16A4: Increased vertical recoil, reduced horizontal recoil. The Burst only M16A4 should now feel different to its automatic sibling, the reduced horizontal recoil emphasizes the greater control you have in burst fire.


That sounds like a nice buff to me. The M4 and M16A4 will be the guns with the least Hrecoil and fastest reload time. I already use the M4A1 exclusively when i play engineer, after the patch it wil be the M4 for shure.
Also, although it hurts my heart, the M16A4 could possibly replace the AN94 as my main assault weapon once i reach service star 100 with it (3410 kills to go).


Is that you, Sean Connery?


No, my name is Georgy, Cloon Georgy. ;D
Does Flash dream of electric Romeo?
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
February 24 2012 19:32 GMT
#8298
On February 25 2012 01:39 Hawk wrote:
Oh that is fucking stupid. It wasn't that high to begin with and it requires way more skill to strafe something with that than it does to lock a missle. Bleh.



pretty much what i thought. really hope it doesnt make a big difference, if you properly fly and aim then the gun should be the most rewarding and strongest weapon (atleast against other air). locking on and spamming the trigger is ezpz.

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askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 20:30:35
February 24 2012 20:27 GMT
#8299
On February 25 2012 04:32 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 01:39 Hawk wrote:
Oh that is fucking stupid. It wasn't that high to begin with and it requires way more skill to strafe something with that than it does to lock a missle. Bleh.



pretty much what i thought. really hope it doesnt make a big difference, if you properly fly and aim then the gun should be the most rewarding and strongest weapon (atleast against other air). locking on and spamming the trigger is ezpz.



cannon damage = 20 damage
RPM = 2000

2000/60 = 33.33333333 RPS
33.3333 RPS x 20 = 666.6666666 DPS

Jet HP = 500

667/500 = ~0.75s to 100% to 0% a jet; ~0.5s to disable a jet

you can 100-20% a tank with the jet cannon if you hit the back chassis with all of your rounds before overheat (no belt speed). Its current form is OP and its too easy to disable people right off the bat when two planes are flying at each other.
hihihi
gn1k
Profile Joined July 2010
United States441 Posts
February 24 2012 20:27 GMT
#8300
On February 24 2012 20:11 Shockk wrote:
I oftentimes simply don't see enemies. I'll wander around the map, suddenly someone kills me and I have no idea where the guy was or came from. Even on the kill cam, I'll sometimes have trouble actually spotting a soldier from the background. I'm not colorblind, and I'm at a loss here. Is everyone using specific camo for specific maps? Or does everyone but me have IR sights?

After playing for a while you will get a good idea of where people like to hide and where they are coming from. The INRV is not very good for spotting people after they patched it. You just have to look closely and get to know the maps. Also try to hide behind something fast when you are getting shot from someone you can't see.
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