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IveReturned
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Turkey258 Posts
February 20 2012 21:23 GMT
#8241
There used to be 32*32 matches+tournaments in 2142 and especially PR(PR could go over 64*64, is a BF2 mod)
Teamplay features lack so much compared to older BF titles

For the weapons

Demize said that they are going back to 2142 way, where it was perfectly balanced. So some PDW nerfs were expected. But I did not expect a chest 1HK with M98. Then he reverted it to 95, just as I thought
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
February 20 2012 22:00 GMT
#8242
bolt action snipers with heavy barrel = more than 15m 1s1k if I'm reading this right

Heavy barrel in general just seems like such a good customization now, cant wait to try it out
hihihi
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
February 20 2012 22:10 GMT
#8243
On February 21 2012 07:00 askTeivospy wrote:
bolt action snipers with heavy barrel = more than 15m 1s1k if I'm reading this right

Heavy barrel in general just seems like such a good customization now, cant wait to try it out

Bolt-action snipers do not come with heavy barrel. In fact, the only sniper rifle that you can have heavy barrel with is the SKS, and that only comes with being a DICE employee.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
February 20 2012 22:17 GMT
#8244
On February 21 2012 07:00 askTeivospy wrote:
bolt action snipers with heavy barrel = more than 15m 1s1k if I'm reading this right

Heavy barrel in general just seems like such a good customization now, cant wait to try it out



It really sounds like you got it all wrong to me.

Isn't it less than 15 meters that is going to be one shot and theres no heavy barrels for bolt-action rifles.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
February 20 2012 22:50 GMT
#8245
On February 21 2012 07:17 Vaelone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 07:00 askTeivospy wrote:
bolt action snipers with heavy barrel = more than 15m 1s1k if I'm reading this right

Heavy barrel in general just seems like such a good customization now, cant wait to try it out



It really sounds like you got it all wrong to me.

Isn't it less than 15 meters that is going to be one shot and theres no heavy barrels for bolt-action rifles.


Well shows you how much I play recon ^O^ Also I was confused since I thought the body modifier was 1.5 not 1.25, my bad. Could have sworn L96 could use Heavy Barrel though but mebbe i'm nuts o_O

Heavy Barrel still looks really good considering it ups your damage by increasing the max range a fair bit ^O^ IMO better than suppressor if that increased damage is noticeable
hihihi
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
February 21 2012 02:31 GMT
#8246
On February 21 2012 07:50 askTeivospy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 07:17 Vaelone wrote:
On February 21 2012 07:00 askTeivospy wrote:
bolt action snipers with heavy barrel = more than 15m 1s1k if I'm reading this right

Heavy barrel in general just seems like such a good customization now, cant wait to try it out



It really sounds like you got it all wrong to me.

Isn't it less than 15 meters that is going to be one shot and theres no heavy barrels for bolt-action rifles.


Well shows you how much I play recon ^O^ Also I was confused since I thought the body modifier was 1.5 not 1.25, my bad. Could have sworn L96 could use Heavy Barrel though but mebbe i'm nuts o_O

Heavy Barrel still looks really good considering it ups your damage by increasing the max range a fair bit ^O^ IMO better than suppressor if that increased damage is noticeable


How does increasing max range boost damage? Is it simply because the dropoff values change along with max range? Also, how much does the heavy barrel improve it, symthic's charts don't seem to cover that.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 22:09:38
February 22 2012 21:57 GMT
#8247
Looks like I'm done with this game (for now), unlocking all the attachments with all the guns. Next step would probably be 5 service stars with every gun, but I don't want to do this for now (I'm probably over halfway there due to grinding attachments). This took way too long to do, eventually I resorted to spamming Bazaar/Karkand to finish the unlocks. Still I wish that BF3 would show true KDR stat.

I think I have a problem with my playing style in BF3, as I tend to run and gun way too much. This causes me to be inconsistent in games, where sometimes I'll stay at a 1 KDR for 10-20 deaths, then hit a hot streak and end up with a ~1.4-2 KDR at the end of matches. Learning patience is a hard thing, but the grinding of the weapons taught me that kills will come to you, given that the enemy is prone to making mistakes. Plus, I don't pulse much enough in short to mid-range fights, as I hold down the trigger and pray (which surprisingly works for me most of the time).

The hint tool tip is nice, but only if you leave it at default. Otherwise the hot key doesn't correspond to the changes when the tool tip comes up. Sometimes it's frustrating when I see 4 as the health pack, while my hotkey is 6.

If you have any questions about how the weapon operates, go ahead and ask. My setup is Holo, Foregrip, and Suppressor (might change with new patch) for most weapons, with PDWs/Shotguns having Extended Mags whenever possible. 93R as a pistol because it's the only pistol that has a foregrip (which doesn't affect stats and getting buffed next patch).

Funsies: DICE Employees get the USAS-12 and other shotguns with a Suppressor.

I wonder what FOV do players use as the optimal setup. I never messed around the settings. Do competitive tournaments allow you to change this setting?
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 22:47:39
February 22 2012 22:45 GMT
#8248
Hey guys, I've noticed that my SPM is unusually low at 334. I've seen players who legitimately have 550 SPM, 700 SPM, etc and I was wondering how players accomplish so much in so little time lol. I should add that I'm no noob at FPS games .

I usually play conquest 32/64, with a bit of rush/tdm.
On February 23 2012 06:57 Phelix wrote:
Looks like I'm done with this game (for now), unlocking all the attachments with all the guns. Next step would probably be 5 service stars with every gun, but I don't want to do this for now (I'm probably over halfway there due to grinding attachments). This took way too long to do, eventually I resorted to spamming Bazaar/Karkand to finish the unlocks. Still I wish that BF3 would show true KDR stat.

I think I have a problem with my playing style in BF3, as I tend to run and gun way too much. This causes me to be inconsistent in games, where sometimes I'll stay at a 1 KDR for 10-20 deaths, then hit a hot streak and end up with a ~1.4-2 KDR at the end of matches. Learning patience is a hard thing, but the grinding of the weapons taught me that kills will come to you, given that the enemy is prone to making mistakes. Plus, I don't pulse much enough in short to mid-range fights, as I hold down the trigger and pray (which surprisingly works for me most of the time).

The hint tool tip is nice, but only if you leave it at default. Otherwise the hot key doesn't correspond to the changes when the tool tip comes up. Sometimes it's frustrating when I see 4 as the health pack, while my hotkey is 6.

If you have any questions about how the weapon operates, go ahead and ask. My setup is Holo, Foregrip, and Suppressor (might change with new patch) for most weapons, with PDWs/Shotguns having Extended Mags whenever possible. 93R as a pistol because it's the only pistol that has a foregrip (which doesn't affect stats and getting buffed next patch).

Funsies: DICE Employees get the USAS-12 and other shotguns with a Suppressor.

I wonder what FOV do players use as the optimal setup. I never messed around the settings. Do competitive tournaments allow you to change this setting?


What do you mean by true KDR? Is the KDR shown in the bottom of your soldier's profile incorrect in some way?
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 22:57:25
February 22 2012 22:56 GMT
#8249
What I mean by True KDR is Kills/(Deaths+Bring Revived+Suicides); I don't know where to put suicides (some of them are just silly, and some of them I intentionally suicide so that the enemy doesn't get credit for the kill). This would shut up the people who care about KDR so much and making fun of people with low KDR; BF2 and 2142 used this system. Also, since you technically died during a fight, this should count as a death. I guess with the new formula, I guess my KDR would be ~1.6-1.7 as I tend to play lone wolf and charge recklessly towards opponents in the front lines.

Infantry maps boost your SPM by a lot due to the nature of the map and how much CQB you can get. Jets are good if you know how to fly; I don't know so I avoid them. Average SPM I think across BF3 is ~270. Having a squad that sets and completes orders increase your score a lot. Basically, be offensive and cap flags, and do your role well. Assault gets the easiest point grab because revives are worth 100/110. That comes with time and experience; imbalanced guns help as well. Winning is the way to get high SPM, 500 more points is never bad.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
February 22 2012 23:13 GMT
#8250
On February 23 2012 07:56 Phelix wrote:
What I mean by True KDR is Kills/(Deaths+Bring Revived+Suicides); I don't know where to put suicides (some of them are just silly, and some of them I intentionally suicide so that the enemy doesn't get credit for the kill). This would shut up the people who care about KDR so much and making fun of people with low KDR; BF2 and 2142 used this system. Also, since you technically died during a fight, this should count as a death. I guess with the new formula, I guess my KDR would be ~1.6-1.7 as I tend to play lone wolf and charge recklessly towards opponents in the front lines.

Infantry maps boost your SPM by a lot due to the nature of the map and how much CQB you can get. Jets are good if you know how to fly; I don't know so I avoid them. Average SPM I think across BF3 is ~270. Having a squad that sets and completes orders increase your score a lot. Basically, be offensive and cap flags, and do your role well. Assault gets the easiest point grab because revives are worth 100/110. That comes with time and experience; imbalanced guns help as well. Winning is the way to get high SPM, 500 more points is never bad.


I play with friends occasionally; we coordinate heavily and do quite well in those situations. Setting up attack/defend orders is something I don't do enough, I'll try to do that more consistently. I don't camp (even when sniping, lol) and I fulfill the roles of all classes fairly well. The only thing I don't make enough use of is the recon's gadgets. I'm also quite good with every vehicle in the game except jets.

I only have 3.3 GB of RAM due to being on Vista 32 bit, and I'm hesitant to format my HDD to install Windows 7 64 Bit. The game doesn't run as well as it could be on my computer for this reason >.>. I'm sorta just waiting to get another HDD because the one I have is kinda old and has low capacity.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
February 22 2012 23:19 GMT
#8251
My SPM is pretty stable around 620 now and I've been playing less lately due to being busy. I basically spend 75% of the playtime on firestorm/caspian/kharg large so no metro or seine whoring. All you gotta do is bitchslap yourself mentally to find something to do at all times that will give you more points.

If you're a decent player and can win at least 2/3's of your duels you can easily reach 600 if you just consistently try. If you ever troll around in games or have games where you don't try at all, it's obviously never going to get very high. Simply play well, excell at everything in the game and don't fool around.
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 23:25:25
February 22 2012 23:24 GMT
#8252
On February 23 2012 08:19 Divine-Sneaker wrote:
My SPM is pretty stable around 620 now and I've been playing less lately due to being busy. I basically spend 75% of the playtime on firestorm/caspian/kharg large so no metro or seine whoring. All you gotta do is bitchslap yourself mentally to find something to do at all times that will give you more points.

If you're a decent player and can win at least 2/3's of your duels you can easily reach 600 if you just consistently try. If you ever troll around in games or have games where you don't try at all, it's obviously never going to get very high. Simply play well, excell at everything in the game and don't fool around.


What about transportation from area to area? Do you just run on foot or do you try to find a vehicle (which seems a lot harder to find than in 2142).

In the last week or so I've found my SPM to be around ~550 each game (including medals, etc). I can probably attribute some of my overall low SPM to me forcing myself to snipe, which used to be a huge weak point for me in FPS, and flying choppers, which I was also terrible at before.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
February 23 2012 00:26 GMT
#8253
Does anyone play over TS? Let me know, I'm a decent player and would LOVE to join a game where the stupidity rate is sub 50%
pengfx
Profile Joined April 2011
United States15 Posts
February 23 2012 00:43 GMT
#8254
High SPM actually mostly comes from medals, I have 800+ SPM atm playing all rush maps, but 60-65% of it actually comes from the medals you get from getting accuracy ribbons, etc. So the true SPM is only around 350-400 :D. Most of the time, it comes down to watching the minimap, knowing the map extremely well, and minimizing the enemy's probable angle of fire.

I get a ridiculous amount of kills just by watching where people flash on the minimap, and at the same time, flanking and outgunning people in places where I know people will be at on maps. Knowing where your teammates are/good cover spots will improve your K/D too, as generally if your team is pushing a certain side, you can be generally sure that you won't be fired on from that side, minimizing the angle of enemy fire on you, which is what most poorer K/D and SPM players don't think about. Obviously rushes to the MCOM will expose you to basically 360 degrees of fire, but just clear them out before rushing in to that Other than that, aim quickly with something like a RDS/aim upperchest/neck area at all times, especially when rounding corners. Yay.
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 03:05:44
February 23 2012 01:55 GMT
#8255
On February 23 2012 09:43 pengfx wrote:
High SPM actually mostly comes from medals, I have 800+ SPM atm playing all rush maps, but 60-65% of it actually comes from the medals you get from getting accuracy ribbons, etc. So the true SPM is only around 350-400 :D. Most of the time, it comes down to watching the minimap, knowing the map extremely well, and minimizing the enemy's probable angle of fire.

I get a ridiculous amount of kills just by watching where people flash on the minimap, and at the same time, flanking and outgunning people in places where I know people will be at on maps. Knowing where your teammates are/good cover spots will improve your K/D too, as generally if your team is pushing a certain side, you can be generally sure that you won't be fired on from that side, minimizing the angle of enemy fire on you, which is what most poorer K/D and SPM players don't think about. Obviously rushes to the MCOM will expose you to basically 360 degrees of fire, but just clear them out before rushing in to that Other than that, aim quickly with something like a RDS/aim upperchest/neck area at all times, especially when rounding corners. Yay.


FML, I get a brief moment of lag every time I look down sights. By the way, can you link me to your soldier's profile in battlelog? I'd like to see your stats.

EDIT: Is this you? http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/pengfx/weapons/339365246/pc/

It looks like it. Damn, how do you run into so many opponents as to get 2.76 kpm with KH2002? I rush around and check the minimap often too...xD. By the way, I love that gun too, I just went back to it after completing other classes. I use rifle scope + foregrip + laser sight.

I don't play rush much at all but from what I've heard, conquest is also great for getting high SPM.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
pengfx
Profile Joined April 2011
United States15 Posts
February 23 2012 03:34 GMT
#8256
Yea, that's me :x. Well, in all the rush maps you know people will be around the MCOM, so it's pretty easy to run into people. Minimap is the biggest thing IMO, along with knowing people's camping spots. As assault, I always rush in pretty fast and hard, so that's why the KPM is pretty high, along with always aiming high.

KH2002 is really accurate for the first few bursts, I just use Kobra RDS/foregrip/heavy barrel or suppressor. Silly goose, rifle sights zoom in too much imo, and you're still accurate enough with the RDS at ~100 meter range. Rifle has sway/takes longer to ADS/harder to navigate at close and medium range, which is actually where assault should be doing the most damage imo. I also use a 3.4x for my M98, so maybe I'm just biased against high power scopes.

Conquest is ok, but it's too slow of a game mode for me, and often it's just a merry-go-round in point captures, which while leads to a lot of points, isn't that fun to me. It also doesn't lead to many kills, which is why I think your KPM is low, considering you play mostly CQ large. (If I stalked the right profile)

Sucks that you lag when you sight in A good computer really helps out on the gunfights WAY more than people think also, constant high fps makes your aim way more consistent, allowing for faster reaction/better headshot aim. Add me on battlelog if you want!
Laids
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom596 Posts
February 23 2012 03:54 GMT
#8257
So I decided to finally work on Support, do I use an LMG to do so? Do I fuck, MP7 on Metro all day.

Also the G3A3 is a piece of shit, I don't even know why it exists. EMR with an ACOG is infinitely better at doing the same job.
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
February 23 2012 04:54 GMT
#8258
On February 23 2012 12:54 Laids wrote:
So I decided to finally work on Support, do I use an LMG to do so? Do I fuck, MP7 on Metro all day.

Also the G3A3 is a piece of shit, I don't even know why it exists. EMR with an ACOG is infinitely better at doing the same job.


Use LMGs if you like, I prefer the M249 (out of the MGs you get early). I leveled support quite a bit using shotguns and P90 though.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
February 23 2012 06:37 GMT
#8259
On February 23 2012 12:34 pengfx wrote:
Yea, that's me :x. Well, in all the rush maps you know people will be around the MCOM, so it's pretty easy to run into people. Minimap is the biggest thing IMO, along with knowing people's camping spots. As assault, I always rush in pretty fast and hard, so that's why the KPM is pretty high, along with always aiming high.

KH2002 is really accurate for the first few bursts, I just use Kobra RDS/foregrip/heavy barrel or suppressor. Silly goose, rifle sights zoom in too much imo, and you're still accurate enough with the RDS at ~100 meter range. Rifle has sway/takes longer to ADS/harder to navigate at close and medium range, which is actually where assault should be doing the most damage imo. I also use a 3.4x for my M98, so maybe I'm just biased against high power scopes.

Conquest is ok, but it's too slow of a game mode for me, and often it's just a merry-go-round in point captures, which while leads to a lot of points, isn't that fun to me. It also doesn't lead to many kills, which is why I think your KPM is low, considering you play mostly CQ large. (If I stalked the right profile)

Sucks that you lag when you sight in A good computer really helps out on the gunfights WAY more than people think also, constant high fps makes your aim way more consistent, allowing for faster reaction/better headshot aim. Add me on battlelog if you want!


Cool, will do, and yes I am Demonhunter04. The laser sight increases hipfire accuracy to match ADS accuracy so it's unnecessary to sight in close range. Heavy barrel increases recoil and only increases first shot accuracy, which would only help if you were trying to hit targets at long range, in which case you might as well equip the rifle scope, which by the way is only 6x magnification on assault rifles. I only use the rifle scope and the KH2002 because a friend recommended it to me. You get used to the scope pretty quickly, you should try it a bit more....you can easily snipe enemies with it. I use the rifle scope on snipers as well...I've found that I can still snipe people at 500m with the rifle scope, and the reduced zoom makes it easier to find enemies and quickscope.

I play conquest a lot because of the variety in gameplay and the added level of strategy. I don't just run around capturing points endlessly, I go where I know the enemy team is and try to fight them.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
February 23 2012 06:54 GMT
#8260
Is anybody else experiencing lag when sniping? I have decent computer and it sure as hell is not FPS lag since my frame rate is always around 100~. The problem occurs when I am sighting with my 12x Scope and try to focus someone and then he just spikes allover the field, making it impossible to kill anything t.t don't know if the internet may be causing it but then again 2/2mb should be just fine to run, doesnt it..?
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