Battlefield 3 - Page 283

On October 30 2011 23:47 floor exercise wrote:
And again, you aren't providing any proof of Steam's benevolence here, you're comparing one made up fantasy Eula to another.

“store information on a user’s hard drive that is used in conjunction with online play of Valve products. This includes a unique authorization key or CD-Key that is either entered by the user or downloaded automatically during product registration. This authorization key is used to identify a user as valid and allow access to Valve’s products. Information regarding Steam billing, your Steam account, your Internet connection and the Valve software installed on your computer are uploaded to the server in connection with your use of Steam and Valve software.”

2. Consent to Collection and Use of Data.

You agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware, that may be gathered periodically to facilitate the provision of software updates, dynamically served content, product support and other services to you, including online services. EA may also use this information combined with personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you. IF YOU DO NOT WANT EA TO COLLECT, USE, STORE, TRANSMIT OR DISPLAY THE DATA DESCRIBED IN THIS SECTION, PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THE APPLICATION. This and all other data provided to EA and/or collected by EA in connection with your installation and use of this Application is collected, used, stored and transmitted in accordance with EA’s Privacy Policy located at www.ea.com. To the extent that anything in this section conflicts with the terms of EA’s Privacy Policy, the terms of the Privacy Policy shall control.

On October 30 2011 23:47 floor exercise wrote:
"Going to Technical Support, they asked me for my account name. Giving it to them, within 2 minutes they knew EVERY program I had running on my computer, EVERY process. EVERYTHING. They told me which programs to shut down. Granted it worked, but holy fuck that was creepy." to which I asked, who is this "they" that know everything. The lizard people? They can be used as a gender neutral (or species neutral in the context of lizard people) singular pronoun, but thanks for the English lesson

I don't see where it explicitly states it can take and sell anything on your PC. There is nothing in there about selling anything.

And again, you aren't providing any proof of Steam's benevolence here, you're comparing one made up fantasy Eula to another.

All these shocking allegations are very clear and direct in their attempts to paint EA as rotten to the core evil, but then everyone seems to falter when it comes time to prove any of them. You're just regurgitating the same sensationalist bullshit and somehow managing to make it even less credible by mixing in your own anecdotes about your close and personal friend who is also some sort of hot shot spyware investigator who can find hidden EA files that no one else in the world knows about.

Personally identifiable information will be processed and stored by Valve in databases hosted in the United States. Valve has taken reasonable steps to protect the information users share with us, including, but not limited to, setup of processes, equipment and software to avoid unauthorized access or disclosure of this information.

Collection and Use of Information
By using Valve's online sites and products, users agree that Valve may collect aggregate information, individual information, and personally identifiable information, as defined below. Valve may share aggregate information and individual information with other parties. Valve shall not share personally identifiable information with other parties, except as described in the policy below.

"Aggregate information" is information that describes the habits, usage patterns, and demographics of users as a group but does not describe or reveal the identity of any particular user.

"Individual information" is information about a user that is presented in a form distinguishable from information relating to other users but not in a form that personally identifies any user or enables the recipient to communicate directly with any user unless agreed to by the user in advance of such communication. This information may be used to improve Valve's products and online sites, for internal marketing studies, or simply to collect demographic information about Valve's users.

On October 30 2011 23:58 crappen wrote:


Well I dont see posts telling that Origin is perfectly fine and its absolutely nothing to worry about either. EA should do anything in their power to prevent such rumour to take place, they should care about their reputation. Right now we dont really have any statements from EA either to not worry, to clear things up, cause really, this Origin stuff is heated and is causing a lot of debate.

In a good world, we raise a concern, and EA clears things up, giving us proof that Origin is perfectly fine. To throw that ball at us, letting us research this, is very timeconsuming when you could instead have fun and play SC2 ladder etc.

On October 31 2011 00:00 floor exercise wrote:
Now a story about a video you once saw where Origin did something frightening!! Very convincing!

On October 30 2011 23:22 Zocat wrote:


Where is the spyware after deletion of the origin client located? Please be specific, so others can doublecheck that information.

On October 31 2011 00:01 Candadar wrote:


Not even going to give you more Ammo to mindlessly insult me. I'll drop this now before it gets even more heated. I'll let everyone else interpret this as they wish, as I said earlier. The fact that you don't see an issue at all with that EULA is just mind boggling to me.

On October 30 2011 22:39 Candadar wrote:
I don't doubt this for a second. Back in Alpha, I had some technical issues. Going to Technical Support, they asked me for my account name. Giving it to them, within 2 minutes they knew EVERY program I had running on my computer, EVERY process. EVERYTHING. They told me which programs to shut down. Granted it worked, but holy fuck that was creepy.

On October 31 2011 01:24 Serejai wrote:


At this point people like you are just anti-fanboying against EA and fear mongering for no reason at all. Take your bullshit to Reddit or something instead of polluting the forums here with it.

On October 31 2011 00:43 crappen wrote:


You have provoked them Candadar, and with the reactions you are getting, you are touching something sensitive in these guys. Put yourself in the position of them, you have been playing BF3 and had a great time, then someone is pointing out the spyware, which causes a conflict in them, cause you are actually threatening the joy they had, so they demand evidence from you, who is just a regular guy concerned about what you are agreeing too. So dont take their attacks personal, which Im sure you dont.

If I had fun playing BF3 and someone said things about something I've already mindlessly agreed on, I would too demand some more evidence. So guys, please just calm down, its a legit concern Candadar is having, and I believe its worth checking out too. Just throwing insults and writing sarcasm isn't going to help anyone. I for one, is also just a regular guy, and I have no wish to spend endless hours to dig deep into this Origin mess just to have proof which can hold up in court. EA should clear this up, really. They should calm us all down. Why is it so bad for us to wish them to do that? I know you are concerned.

On October 31 2011 00:56 floor exercise wrote:
The thing is that every other day someone comes into this thread and talks about Origin is spyware and steals your identity and looks at your porn.

Meanwhile everyone is playing BF3, and while Origin/Battlelog have technical issues and may be shitty programs, no one so far has produced any real, verifiable proof of Origin doing anything overtly shady. They take information for marketing purposes, great so does Steam, FB, Google, etc. And yet everyone decides here is where they are going to take their stand in defense of their privacy? it's a fucking joke by a bunch of tinfoil hat wearers.

I mean look at what this guy came into this thread claiming:

- An EA technical support staff could see everything on his computer like he had remote access. There is no proof of this, no one else has reported this out of the countless people who have contacted support for bugs and instability in Battlelog. We're supposed to take it seriously?

- His friend somehow cracked EA's master plan of storing spyware after uninstallation of Origin that cannot be removed in any way but formatting your drive. So this is the most malicious software ever created? And only his friend knows about it? What's next, his dad works for EA and a recent memo was passed around the office that everyone must grow an evil moustache like Ming the Merciless?

- He saw a video of Origin doing uh.... something really bad and evil and he will totally link us it when he finds it again. Unfortunately, he forgot how to use browser history, or EA is onto him and removed it from his history

- He then randomly misinterprets EA and Valve's EULA's and still can't acually prove his original allegation that they can "take and sell everything on your PC"

I mean that's just comically stupid, and these people come in every day urging us to open our eyes and see how truly diabolical EA is. These people are absolutely retarded and present some of the dumbest arguments I have ever read. But of course I am clearly suffering from cognitive dissonance and just want to play my precious video game and ignore EA's highly transparent plot to take over the world one internet nerd's porn collection at a time. Give me a fucking break

On October 31 2011 00:56 floor exercise wrote:What's next, his dad works for EA and a recent memo was passed around the office that everyone must grow an evil moustache like Ming the Merciless?

On October 31 2011 02:05 TigerKarl wrote:
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On October 31 2011 02:04 leo23 wrote:


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