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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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slothtron
United States10 Posts
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Hoju
United States449 Posts
On February 01 2011 10:31 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: How do you kill ANYONE with Assault? Thing does like no damage and seems useless to me. I don't play assault too often, but these might help. You have to stay on the fringes of the battle, use your grenade launcher for bots/deployed tanks & gunners/turrets/moneyball. Use assault rifle to damage players at medium range. Attacking from above will make it easier to use your bomb ability. Also use the bomb to set traps. Plant it in a common path for players, or draw a player into it. Set yourself up so that you can charge people off the edge for a ring out. Also use charge to escape from sticky situations. The jet pack will make you very tough to hit and can give you a clear view of the battle in front of you. | ||
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
However, despite owning face, and seemingly doing very well.....I have NO idea wtf I'm doing. I have no idea how endorsements work, I have a custom class unlocked, but it seems no different that any other normal class. In game, I have no idea what the annihilator is...despite hearing about it 9000 times. I only figured out how to upgrade in game about 10 games in, lol. And most of the classes are initially really confusing as far as special abilities go and which button is which ability. Fortunately, headshots are beastly, and I had >10 in a game several times now. Nothing like headshotting a flying assassin or assault. But other than that I have no idea. I screwed around with the tank for a while, and it seemed really fun, and it might be my main class because of how good the weapons can be, + the high hp and good specials, but I dunno. Also screwed around with the assault...and wtf. How do you grapple with that class? I know charge will ring out, but whenever I hit something with it, it either just dies, or i stop dead right in front of it, and it kills me. | ||
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
Also some tips as assault: You don't do really crazy damage so use terrain and high ground to shoot at enemies. Upgrade charge first (Main way to get kills, shoot them while you approach and after you hit them) Use grenade launcher on turrets and bots Run GOLD Armor (Custom Classes) Juice is OP As far as abilities go. Shift, Q, E are the three ability buttons they correspond to the position the skills are when you level them up. | ||
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ak1knight
United States313 Posts
On February 01 2011 22:18 Sm3agol wrote: However, despite owning face, and seemingly doing very well.....I have NO idea wtf I'm doing. I have no idea how endorsements work, I have a custom class unlocked, but it seems no different that any other normal class. In game, I have no idea what the annihilator is...despite hearing about it 9000 times. I only figured out how to upgrade in game about 10 games in, lol. And most of the classes are initially really confusing as far as special abilities go and which button is which ability. Fortunately, headshots are beastly, and I had >10 in a game several times now. Nothing like headshotting a flying assassin or assault. But other than that I have no idea. I screwed around with the tank for a while, and it seemed really fun, and it might be my main class because of how good the weapons can be, + the high hp and good specials, but I dunno. The annihilator is in the middle of the map and, when activated, destroys all enemy bots and damages enemy players for about 25% of their health. Controlling annihilator is essential to get and maintain map control and constant pressure on the enemy moneyball. Endorsements are like perks from COD or runes from LoL. There are three levels, gold, silver, and bronze, and for each level you can choose a "buff" of sorts, like armor or accuracy. Your gold endorsement is the post powerful and your bronze is the least. Custom classes allow you to choose your own endorsements instead of the ones that come with the default classes. This allows you to create classes that can fill different roles, like a gunner with less health but more damage and accuracy or an assault with more health and skill regen to spam sticky bombs while possibly giving up some damage or clip size. | ||
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Glasse
Canada1237 Posts
going by your logic, every games are the same because they share the same basic idea of "fun" | ||
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Dalguno
United States2446 Posts
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
For example, playing as sniper, my fav class. I have L3 trap and grapple. I'm holding down a lane, I have my traps set, I'm paying attention, etc. Assassin comes. I see him, easy ring out, or he gets frozen and I just headshot him. Easy, boring, skilless. Or I miss him, he dodges my traps, and just insta-kills me. Easy, boring, skilless. Having more than one on a team just makes the entire game boring. | ||
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keeblur
United States826 Posts
On February 02 2011 10:38 Glasse wrote: going by your logic, every games are the same because they share the same basic idea of "fun" I can't tell if you are trolling, or just have no idea what the game is about. It is like dota, because there are waves of "creeps" that spawn, that push forward towards the other base, that you have to help get to the end, in order to win. The premise is EXACTLY the same. The game isn't the same obviously, but at the core it's the same idea. | ||
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anilusion
Sweden247 Posts
On February 02 2011 10:38 Glasse wrote: going by your logic, every games are the same because they share the same basic idea of "fun" Unless you have a brain that actually works and you can think for yourself. | ||
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BEARDiaguz
Australia2362 Posts
Fun, but FUCK ASSASSINS Fortunately, there are servers where the assassin is banned. Looks like that whole truth, freedom and the American way exists somewhere out there after all. Anyway, it's more like TF2 with the control points turned into lanes with bots and the nine classes merged into just 6. That's where I'd start describing it, and then say "well, it's also like Dota in that you play as a 'hero' and can get/use abilities and shit. I'd suggest just messing about with gunner for your first few games, max passive first and just get a feel for it. Personally I play only support and I'm loving it (planting turrets, farming waves, shotgunning tanks and gunners that get too close, never dying and pimp as fuck air strikes). Most assassins are just a joke, much like the above sniper poster remarked, and are just annoying as fuckto have to deal with (especially since there's an unwritten law that 4 out of 12 players in any server must play assassins. And their k/d/a's must all look like 3-32-4.) Seriously, I played against one who only used her shuriken. Little bitch is hard to hit with a shotgun, but the heal/hurt gun out dps's her quite comfortably. And holy fuck, if I had a dollar for every assassin who starts grappling me FROM THE FRONT FOR THE 50th FUCKING TIME, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WORK OUT WELL FOR THEM THE FIRST 49 TIMES, BTW, RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY FUCKING TURRET. ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID? CAN'T YOU SEE THIS BIG FIREBASE THING THAT I'M STANDING NEXT TO? And sometimes they don't know that they can grapple jackbots for most of their health. Fuck assassins. Fuck them so much. | ||
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
On February 02 2011 23:57 iaguz wrote: 4 words. Fun, but FUCK ASSASSINS Fortunately, there are servers where the assassin is banned. Looks like that whole truth, freedom and the American way exists somewhere out there after all. Anyway, it's more like TF2 with the control points turned into lanes with bots and the nine classes merged into just 6. That's where I'd start describing it, and then say "well, it's also like Dota in that you play as a 'hero' and can get/use abilities and shit. I'd suggest just messing about with gunner for your first few games, max passive first and just get a feel for it. Personally I play only support and I'm loving it (planting turrets, farming waves, shotgunning tanks and gunners that get too close, never dying and pimp as fuck air strikes). Most assassins are just a joke, much like the above sniper poster remarked, and are just annoying as fuckto have to deal with (especially since there's an unwritten law that 4 out of 12 players in any server must play assassins. And their k/d/a's must all look like 3-32-4.) Seriously, I played against one who only used her shuriken. Little bitch is hard to hit with a shotgun, but the heal/hurt gun out dps's her quite comfortably. And holy fuck, if I had a dollar for every assassin who starts grappling me FROM THE FRONT FOR THE 50th FUCKING TIME, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WORK OUT WELL FOR THEM THE FIRST 49 TIMES, BTW, RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY FUCKING TURRET. ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID? CAN'T YOU SEE THIS BIG FIREBASE THING THAT I'M STANDING NEXT TO? And sometimes they don't know that they can grapple jackbots for most of their health. Fuck assassins. Fuck them so much. QFT. Just thinking about assassins makes me want to murder people. I'll be playing a tank, they'll front grapple me, take about 50% of my health down, then i'll blossom them into oblivion time and time again, and absolutely farking hate it every time it happens. | ||
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Corvi
Germany1406 Posts
On February 02 2011 23:57 iaguz wrote: 4 words. Fun, but FUCK ASSASSINS Fortunately, there are servers where the assassin is banned. Looks like that whole truth, freedom and the American way exists somewhere out there after all. Anyway, it's more like TF2 with the control points turned into lanes with bots and the nine classes merged into just 6. That's where I'd start describing it, and then say "well, it's also like Dota in that you play as a 'hero' and can get/use abilities and shit. I'd suggest just messing about with gunner for your first few games, max passive first and just get a feel for it. Personally I play only support and I'm loving it (planting turrets, farming waves, shotgunning tanks and gunners that get too close, never dying and pimp as fuck air strikes). Most assassins are just a joke, much like the above sniper poster remarked, and are just annoying as fuckto have to deal with (especially since there's an unwritten law that 4 out of 12 players in any server must play assassins. And their k/d/a's must all look like 3-32-4.) Seriously, I played against one who only used her shuriken. Little bitch is hard to hit with a shotgun, but the heal/hurt gun out dps's her quite comfortably. And holy fuck, if I had a dollar for every assassin who starts grappling me FROM THE FRONT FOR THE 50th FUCKING TIME, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WORK OUT WELL FOR THEM THE FIRST 49 TIMES, BTW, RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY FUCKING TURRET. ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID? CAN'T YOU SEE THIS BIG FIREBASE THING THAT I'M STANDING NEXT TO? And sometimes they don't know that they can grapple jackbots for most of their health. Fuck assassins. Fuck them so much. play tank and roflstomp assassins all day. they just have to be hurt very little to allow u to 1 hit kill them with ur roundhouse kick thingie. also assassins can not 1 hit you, so u can pull that off like every time. | ||
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
Certainly, spawning only to cloak and run into the enemy base to kill a single player with grapple and then getting killed by turrets doesn't make for an entertaining game. But the general description of the class from the posters above doesn't do it justice imo. Just as with any other class there will players of different styles and skill levels, maybe the assassins are just more apealing to beginners, this doesn't rob the class of what you call "skill". | ||
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
On February 03 2011 17:39 Alur wrote: While I can understand the frustration behind dying to an assasin, I can't understand the argument of assassins taking no skill to play / play against. Playing on both sides i have had plenty of exciting duels, with mind-games including creative use of smoke bomb, or clutch use of shuriken into lunge-grapple combo. Certainly, spawning only to cloak and run into the enemy base to kill a single player with grapple and then getting killed by turrets doesn't make for an entertaining game. But the general description of the class from the posters above doesn't do it justice imo. Just as with any other class there will players of different styles and skill levels, maybe the assassins are just more apealing to beginners, this doesn't rob the class of what you call "skill". I understand the skill of a good assasin, but that doesn't change the fact the the most terrible of n00bs can run in and kill single players pretty much whenever they feel like it, as long as they don't care if they die right afterwards. Whereas getting kills as a, say, sniper vs anything not a deployed gunner means "skill" was used pretty much every time. Or my fav class, assault. Getting to know proper angles with your bombs so you can bounce them off crap and have them explode on peoples heads. You have a machine gun that is worthless past 20 feet, and a grenade launcher that lobs projectiles. When i go 29-7 with an assault, skill was pretty much involved all game. Whereas with assassin, all that is required is to find two people with zero awareness and just insta-kill back-stab them all game. Tbh, though, after i switched my main class to assault from sniper, got a silver armor endorsement so i can survive front grapples, and turned my sound up, I've been crapping on them all day long. Assassin - front grapple. Me - survive with 10% hp, press charge button. Assassin - ring out. AGAIN. But still, fark assassins. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
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snafulator
Antigua/Barbuda72 Posts
On February 04 2011 08:45 barbsq wrote: just got this game, installing right now. should be fun please post ur short review here  im not sure if the game is worth 10bucks :xi dont wanna spend my money on crap.. like i did on a few titles last year.. and please post how many people are acutally online at the moment thanks | ||
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
On February 04 2011 09:37 snafulator wrote: please post ur short review here im not sure if the game is worth 10bucks :xi dont wanna spend my money on crap.. like i did on a few titles last year.. and please post how many people are acutally online at the moment thanks It is EASILY worth $10 imo, and there are a lot of people online, the full server list is gigantic. You really can't go wrong getting this game, it's like a cooler form of TF2. | ||
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pokeyAA
United States936 Posts
The bad assassins going 3/27 make up most of the assassin playerbase though. The ones who run no armor endorsements, front grapple, and wait in a corner for 1 minute hoping for a pro to run past them. I used to hate Assault too (thought they were weak) until I found the joy of bombing people to kingdom come. Run armor, rate of fire, skill/accuracy and see if you do better. Then start trying to control bot lanes and stuff with the bomb. Fav classes are assassin, assault, gunner, and support only on steel map to firebase camp ledges and chuck airstrikes at people's spawn | ||
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