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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 08 2011 19:01 GMT
#9201
On December 09 2011 03:06 StatX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 22:20 mordk wrote:
On December 08 2011 16:38 Isualin wrote:
i am trying to play on master difficulty as a mage but a "falmer"(not skulker, prowler or anything) two shots me while i have to use all my mana twice to kill him. what am i doing wrong?

Get Lydia, makes the game playable for a mage at low levels


Uthger the unbroken in the inn has better gear (steel plate armor) and takes only a button mashing brawl and 100 gold (you get 200 back after the brawl) to obtain. Lydia costs no gold but requires you to advance in the main quest line.

There is also Faendal in Riverwood (even earlier than Uthger) by doing the simple quest of the letter who helps you with his bow and arrow.

There is even a witch you free from a cave early on but you do have to kill quite a few monsters to get there and might get tricky.

Depends if you really use companions or not. Also, smithing gear early on in the game gives you an edge offensive/defensive wise. Try using a shield to reduce damage of incoming attacks and use spells from your main hand while he staggers. If you have PC version, simply assigne numbers to favorites to change quickly between shield and spells for dual cast.

Yeah, Uthger's nice too. I suggested Lydia on account of her being a pretty cool tank. As an early game mage that's what you need. You need someone to take that bear off your back.
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
December 08 2011 19:29 GMT
#9202
On December 08 2011 08:07 Cereb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 07:47 mastergriggy wrote:
LOL they fixed the bookshelf glitch? I thought my books were gone forever. Man, I probably spend way too much time caring about the aesthetics in this game cuz I always go all out. Out of curiosity though, how far (hours) is everyone into the game?



Lost complete track of the number of hours....


But I have a lvl 44 mage. A lvl 54 theif and a lvl 36 warrior

All of them have completed the main quest and I'm pretty sure I have completed all the major sidequest story-lines... (Theives, Brotherhood, Companions, Mages, Both side of the civil war...)



And I want MOOAAAAR! ;>


Goddamn game is not big enough! :D

Funny thing is I'm still finding completely new shit everytime I play through it...Just want more of the longer storylines


My one complaint is that main story quests (Mage's College, War, Companions, Thieves Guild) are only slightly longer than assembling random McGuffins for various NPCs like Mehrune's Razor or Gauldur's Amulet.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
December 08 2011 20:03 GMT
#9203
On December 09 2011 04:29 Offhand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 08:07 Cereb wrote:
On December 08 2011 07:47 mastergriggy wrote:
LOL they fixed the bookshelf glitch? I thought my books were gone forever. Man, I probably spend way too much time caring about the aesthetics in this game cuz I always go all out. Out of curiosity though, how far (hours) is everyone into the game?



Lost complete track of the number of hours....


But I have a lvl 44 mage. A lvl 54 theif and a lvl 36 warrior

All of them have completed the main quest and I'm pretty sure I have completed all the major sidequest story-lines... (Theives, Brotherhood, Companions, Mages, Both side of the civil war...)



And I want MOOAAAAR! ;>


Goddamn game is not big enough! :D

Funny thing is I'm still finding completely new shit everytime I play through it...Just want more of the longer storylines


My one complaint is that main story quests (Mage's College, War, Companions, Thieves Guild) are only slightly longer than assembling random McGuffins for various NPCs like Mehrune's Razor or Gauldur's Amulet.


Hmm I spent about 3 -4 hours on mage's college, war and companions ( didnt do thieves guild yet ) which is not too bad but I agree it should've been longer.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
StatX
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada343 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 20:06:57
December 08 2011 20:06 GMT
#9204
On December 09 2011 04:29 Offhand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 08:07 Cereb wrote:
On December 08 2011 07:47 mastergriggy wrote:
LOL they fixed the bookshelf glitch? I thought my books were gone forever. Man, I probably spend way too much time caring about the aesthetics in this game cuz I always go all out. Out of curiosity though, how far (hours) is everyone into the game?



Lost complete track of the number of hours....


But I have a lvl 44 mage. A lvl 54 theif and a lvl 36 warrior

All of them have completed the main quest and I'm pretty sure I have completed all the major sidequest story-lines... (Theives, Brotherhood, Companions, Mages, Both side of the civil war...)



And I want MOOAAAAR! ;>


Goddamn game is not big enough! :D

Funny thing is I'm still finding completely new shit everytime I play through it...Just want more of the longer storylines


My one complaint is that main story quests (Mage's College, War, Companions, Thieves Guild) are only slightly longer than assembling random McGuffins for various NPCs like Mehrune's Razor or Gauldur's Amulet.


I personally feel like the side quest lines from the major groups simply give side perks like hideouts, hirelings, special vendors and such.

I must say I liked the mehrunes razor quest (easy access to deadric hearts for smithing and various quests) and the gauldur amulet is a nice necklace with 30 health, stamina and magicka.

I mostly see the radiant random quests as a mean of increasing your money as you explore and clear caves and dungeons and loot random worthy stuff.

Can we snipe it? Yes we can!
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9593 Posts
December 08 2011 21:00 GMT
#9205
Hey guys, I've got a question =) Who is this?
[image loading]

She looks pretty neat. Marcurio is a great companion but he looks pretty bland. Wish I could get her to accompany me instead
I've tried to make a female character like the one in the picture but sadly I don't even come close.
Help? =)
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 23:31:02
December 08 2011 23:24 GMT
#9206
On December 09 2011 04:01 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 03:06 StatX wrote:
On December 08 2011 22:20 mordk wrote:
On December 08 2011 16:38 Isualin wrote:
i am trying to play on master difficulty as a mage but a "falmer"(not skulker, prowler or anything) two shots me while i have to use all my mana twice to kill him. what am i doing wrong?

Get Lydia, makes the game playable for a mage at low levels


Uthger the unbroken in the inn has better gear (steel plate armor) and takes only a button mashing brawl and 100 gold (you get 200 back after the brawl) to obtain. Lydia costs no gold but requires you to advance in the main quest line.

There is also Faendal in Riverwood (even earlier than Uthger) by doing the simple quest of the letter who helps you with his bow and arrow.

There is even a witch you free from a cave early on but you do have to kill quite a few monsters to get there and might get tricky.

Depends if you really use companions or not. Also, smithing gear early on in the game gives you an edge offensive/defensive wise. Try using a shield to reduce damage of incoming attacks and use spells from your main hand while he staggers. If you have PC version, simply assigne numbers to favorites to change quickly between shield and spells for dual cast.

Yeah, Uthger's nice too. I suggested Lydia on account of her being a pretty cool tank. As an early game mage that's what you need. You need someone to take that bear off your back.


Alternatively, you could just enchant some gear to have 100% destruction reduction cost, so you have unlimited destruction spells. And with the dual casting stagger perk, you should never ever lose a 1v1 against anything. Even without destruction reduction enchants, if you time your staggers and have a large enough mana pool + mana regen (as from the mage quests), you shouldn't need potions for any 1v1 fight.

On a side note, freaking bears man (and sabre tooth cats). I'm playing a thief on master w/o companions, no smith/alch/enchant, and I can usually deal decently well with most things... except for freaking bears. The second I see a bear, I run for the nearest cliff, hide and make a huge detour. (lvl 20 w/ elven gear) Those god damn bears...

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/210979/december-01-2008/exclusive---godless-killing-machines-mash-up
Tomazi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom158 Posts
December 08 2011 23:40 GMT
#9207
On December 09 2011 08:24 happyft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 04:01 mordk wrote:
On December 09 2011 03:06 StatX wrote:
On December 08 2011 22:20 mordk wrote:
On December 08 2011 16:38 Isualin wrote:
i am trying to play on master difficulty as a mage but a "falmer"(not skulker, prowler or anything) two shots me while i have to use all my mana twice to kill him. what am i doing wrong?

Get Lydia, makes the game playable for a mage at low levels


Uthger the unbroken in the inn has better gear (steel plate armor) and takes only a button mashing brawl and 100 gold (you get 200 back after the brawl) to obtain. Lydia costs no gold but requires you to advance in the main quest line.

There is also Faendal in Riverwood (even earlier than Uthger) by doing the simple quest of the letter who helps you with his bow and arrow.

There is even a witch you free from a cave early on but you do have to kill quite a few monsters to get there and might get tricky.

Depends if you really use companions or not. Also, smithing gear early on in the game gives you an edge offensive/defensive wise. Try using a shield to reduce damage of incoming attacks and use spells from your main hand while he staggers. If you have PC version, simply assigne numbers to favorites to change quickly between shield and spells for dual cast.

Yeah, Uthger's nice too. I suggested Lydia on account of her being a pretty cool tank. As an early game mage that's what you need. You need someone to take that bear off your back.


Alternatively, you could just enchant some gear to have 100% destruction reduction cost, so you have unlimited destruction spells. And with the dual casting stagger perk, you should never ever lose a 1v1 against anything. Even without destruction reduction enchants, if you time your staggers and have a large enough mana pool + mana regen (as from the mage quests), you shouldn't need potions for any 1v1 fight.

On a side note, freaking bears man (and sabre tooth cats). I'm playing a thief on master w/o companions, no smith/alch/enchant, and I can usually deal decently well with most things... except for freaking bears. The second I see a bear, I run for the nearest cliff, hide and make a huge detour. (lvl 20 w/ elven gear) Those god damn bears...

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/210979/december-01-2008/exclusive---godless-killing-machines-mash-up



It's the same for me... bears, even levelled skeevers (lol) give me problems. I am stuck at the moment trying to fight this fire wizard. She two shots me with fireballs (they have such a huge splash and cannot be avoided), And it takes me about 20 arrows to kill her. She also strafes a lot, heals and has amazing perception.
Aspiring to be MKP's butler
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 23:47:15
December 08 2011 23:45 GMT
#9208
Its true, bears own thieves/rogues/assasin characters, because they appearently have the sickest fucking stealth detection in the game, they smell you from miles on end and come and maul you in the face in 2 hits.

My best solution for mages was to res pot up, force the opponent mage to come near(by using line of sight) or sneak attack them.

or if your conjuration is high enough, summon something to tank (or even kill) the mages for you.
WriterXiao8~~
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 00:01:09
December 08 2011 23:56 GMT
#9209
On December 09 2011 08:45 Kipsate wrote:
Its true, bears own thieves/rogues/assasin characters, because they appearently have the sickest fucking stealth detection in the game, they smell you from miles on end and come and maul you in the face in 2 hits.

My best solution for mages was to res pot up, force the opponent mage to come near(by using line of sight) or sneak attack them.

or if your conjuration is high enough, summon something to tank (or even kill) the mages for you.


I highly recommend you don't level up conjuration too much. It's so broken. Summons can easily kill the final boss on their own while you just stand there.
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 00:28:06
December 09 2011 00:17 GMT
#9210
Mana free destruction spells kills any excitement from the game as fast as summon daedra lord or multicyclecrafted gear. Anyone telling me mana regeneration is useless clearly either isn't playing a mage or has smithed their gear up to the skies. There's a massive difference between having 2-3 regeneration items in combat vs not having them once you fight something that doesn't die in a single dualcast.

Or perhaps those people who claim mana regen in combat doesn't work haven't noticed that yes you indeed do not regen mana while your hands are "charged" with a spell, as in waiting for you to release the buttons to fire. Let's say I'm chain staggering a bandit chief down, I dualcast a bolt, then if you immediately charge your next dualcast up and wait for the bandit lord to recover and then hitting, then yes, you won't get mana regen.
Instead if you stagger him and just wait there doing nothing, mana regens. Then as the bandit chief is about to start charging again, I'll do a quick dualcast to stagger again. This way you can nearly regenerate a new dualcast bolt mid combat.
Currently my mage that hasn't even touched any crafting skills is wearing a dragonmask for 100% regen, archmage robes that IIRC give 100%, a ring with 40% and the restoration perk that gives 25% (will get 50% once my resto is high enough). There's absolutely massive difference if I don't wear the items vs wearing them in my combat longevity.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 09 2011 00:19 GMT
#9211
On December 09 2011 08:56 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 08:45 Kipsate wrote:
Its true, bears own thieves/rogues/assasin characters, because they appearently have the sickest fucking stealth detection in the game, they smell you from miles on end and come and maul you in the face in 2 hits.

My best solution for mages was to res pot up, force the opponent mage to come near(by using line of sight) or sneak attack them.

or if your conjuration is high enough, summon something to tank (or even kill) the mages for you.


I highly recommend you don't level up conjuration too much. It's so broken. Summons can easily kill the final boss on their own while you just stand there.


Daedric lord is a bit broken, the other ones are oke, Daedric lord blocks, power attacks, tanks, its insane.
WriterXiao8~~
Tomazi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom158 Posts
December 09 2011 00:34 GMT
#9212
Yeah I can't beat this fire wizard at all. I even tried paralysis potions, but she kills me in the time it takes to get a shot off
Aspiring to be MKP's butler
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
December 09 2011 01:17 GMT
#9213
On December 09 2011 09:34 Tomazi wrote:
Yeah I can't beat this fire wizard at all. I even tried paralysis potions, but she kills me in the time it takes to get a shot off


I've had a few fights that were tough as a mage, mostly other mages. Not much you can do, go back for now and come back there when you have better spells/mana.
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calcarus
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia103 Posts
December 09 2011 01:25 GMT
#9214
On December 09 2011 02:59 StatX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 00:18 Antifate wrote:
Silly question, but how does one skip speeches without exiting the dialogue menu? I want to see if particular options lead to quests, but I don't want to sit through people's rambling.


If you have a computer and want to shut down any dialogues, press tab, it'll free you from any conversation and allow you to walk away completely.


pressing tab will exit the conversation and make restart the options for the dialogue.

simply clicking the mouse will skip through each sentence in a dialogue.
"All I know, is that I know nothing" - Socrates
OoFuzer
Profile Joined July 2008
Chile436 Posts
December 09 2011 03:00 GMT
#9215
Do you get a quest to go to winterhold? Im lvl 36, and no quest yet to winterhold.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 09 2011 03:28 GMT
#9216
no im pretty sure you can just go there and talk to the lady at the bridge..
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
December 09 2011 03:35 GMT
#9217
"Visit the College in Winterhold" is given pretty much as soon as you enter Whiterrun is you talk to people.
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ChiknAdobo
Profile Joined November 2010
United States208 Posts
December 09 2011 03:39 GMT
#9218
On December 09 2011 09:19 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 08:56 Kurr wrote:
On December 09 2011 08:45 Kipsate wrote:
Its true, bears own thieves/rogues/assasin characters, because they appearently have the sickest fucking stealth detection in the game, they smell you from miles on end and come and maul you in the face in 2 hits.

My best solution for mages was to res pot up, force the opponent mage to come near(by using line of sight) or sneak attack them.

or if your conjuration is high enough, summon something to tank (or even kill) the mages for you.


I highly recommend you don't level up conjuration too much. It's so broken. Summons can easily kill the final boss on their own while you just stand there.


Daedric lord is a bit broken, the other ones are oke, Daedric lord blocks, power attacks, tanks, its insane.



I got two Daedric Lords I'll let them finish the game for me
ZERg
happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
December 09 2011 03:53 GMT
#9219
On December 09 2011 08:45 Kipsate wrote:
Its true, bears own thieves/rogues/assasin characters, because they appearently have the sickest fucking stealth detection in the game, they smell you from miles on end and come and maul you in the face in 2 hits.


Seriously. I hid at almost max visual range, and I couldn't even get a sneak arrow shot at him cuz he immediately woke up and saw me the second my arrow left my bow. Wtf, lol.


On December 09 2011 10:17 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 09:34 Tomazi wrote:
Yeah I can't beat this fire wizard at all. I even tried paralysis potions, but she kills me in the time it takes to get a shot off


I've had a few fights that were tough as a mage, mostly other mages. Not much you can do, go back for now and come back there when you have better spells/mana.


Man that sounds tough. Do you have the full 3 words of Fus Ro Dah? I feel like once you get that, any 1v1 is a joke since it's like a free paralysis with every shout.

On an aside, whoever said dual-wielding sucks obviously never did a quadruple backstab in half a second as a dual wielding elven dagger thief.
AutomatonOmega
Profile Joined February 2011
United States706 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 04:41:39
December 09 2011 04:39 GMT
#9220
One thing that was broke as fuck as my Mage was the fight vs Orchendor (boss of Peryite daedric artifact quest). Virtually immune to nonphysical damage.

I basically had to wield the mace of Molag Bal and have Fast Heal on the other hand, since he didn't really do that much damage with the elemental resist dragon mask on.

It became a huge fucking war of attrition. He couldn't really kill me, and I would just wail on him and keep him at about 20% health (he'd heal when he dipped lower). Me and my follower (also a mage) eventually killed him by each casting frost atronachs and I got a lucky stagger off into him going into yield mode, where I finished him.

Now he's my Dead Thrall, and he retains the resists, self healing, and happens to have high heavyarmor and onehanded skills. Dude's a fucking beast. You guys think Daedra Lords are busted? Fuck that. This asshole can fucking teleport.

For those of you confused, you can put armor on a dead thrall by looting them onto their corpse when the spell isn't active, then casting the spell, and zoning, and then they'll put the shit on. If I gave a fuck, I'd get a bunch of caster plate and suit him the fuck up.

Edit: Has anyone found any bugs with 1.3 yet? Apparently they still fucked up the book shelf thing but I really don't care about that at all. I did notice corpses creeping out properly.
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