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Egyptian_Head
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa508 Posts
November 24 2011 16:52 GMT
#7641
Map is too small, I have barely started the story and I have already gone pretty much everywhere. I am like level 30 and i have just joined the companions and have only just gotten to the point where you are meant to unlock your first shout. Another point, game is too easy, I have died like once. The leveling up stuff is way to simple, it is impossible to make a bad character, no matter what you do you will be fine. Overall the game has been a disappointment so far. The world is nice if small but everything else is lack luster so far.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 24 2011 17:08 GMT
#7642
On November 25 2011 01:04 StiX wrote:
I have a question :D

I've heard that once you can go up the light armour you cant get to daedric (even though it's connected). So I was wondering, if you go with the heavy armour path and end up at dragon smithing would that mean you can also make the light armour version without the additional light armour perks?


The smithing perks appear as a circle because the prereqs to get Dragon smithing are Daedric OR Glass smithing. You cannot continue around if you get Dragon smithing through the light armor side because the prereq for Daedric smithing is ebony. It's very misleading, but there isn't a good way to separate them. This is true for quite a few of the perk trees, for instance Enchanting also only requires one of the two perks leading up to double enchant.

Dragon smithing unlocks both the light and heavy armor variants no matter which path you take. For this reason, most people suggest you go through the Heavy armor tree to unlock daedric smithing since they're the best weapons. Through this path you get the best light armor (dragonscale), best weapons (Daedric), and best heavy armor (Daedric) if you ever intend to max out everything.

If you were cheated you can use the console to reapply your perk points.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
rblstr
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland398 Posts
November 24 2011 17:19 GMT
#7643
On November 25 2011 01:52 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Map is too small, I have barely started the story and I have already gone pretty much everywhere. I am like level 30 and i have just joined the companions and have only just gotten to the point where you are meant to unlock your first shout. Another point, game is too easy, I have died like once. The leveling up stuff is way to simple, it is impossible to make a bad character, no matter what you do you will be fine. Overall the game has been a disappointment so far. The world is nice if small but everything else is lack luster so far.


How is the map small?
Its bigger than the last 2 TES games? :|
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
November 24 2011 17:19 GMT
#7644
On November 25 2011 01:52 Egyptian_Head wrote:
The leveling up stuff is way to simple, it is impossible to make a bad character, no matter what you do you will be fine.
that's not necessarily the worst thing

as much i liked oblivion, it was honestly insanely aggravating when you couldn't do something trivial like cast feather because you were a few points short in a stat for levelling

grinding endurance was particularly tedious and mostly consisted of finding a rat, getting a roll of tape for your block button, and going afk for a bit
aaaaa
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
November 24 2011 17:27 GMT
#7645
On November 25 2011 02:19 rblstr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 01:52 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Map is too small, I have barely started the story and I have already gone pretty much everywhere. I am like level 30 and i have just joined the companions and have only just gotten to the point where you are meant to unlock your first shout. Another point, game is too easy, I have died like once. The leveling up stuff is way to simple, it is impossible to make a bad character, no matter what you do you will be fine. Overall the game has been a disappointment so far. The world is nice if small but everything else is lack luster so far.


How is the map small?
Its bigger than the last 2 TES games? :|


Some people just pick anything to hate on if they don't like the game for whatever reason to begin with.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
LagT_T
Profile Joined March 2010
Argentina535 Posts
November 24 2011 17:30 GMT
#7646
On November 25 2011 02:19 rblstr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 01:52 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Map is too small, I have barely started the story and I have already gone pretty much everywhere. I am like level 30 and i have just joined the companions and have only just gotten to the point where you are meant to unlock your first shout. Another point, game is too easy, I have died like once. The leveling up stuff is way to simple, it is impossible to make a bad character, no matter what you do you will be fine. Overall the game has been a disappointment so far. The world is nice if small but everything else is lack luster so far.


How is the map small?
Its bigger than the last 2 TES games? :|


Map is as big as oblivion's but there are more mountains = unwalkable terrain. Still is big as fuck with all the dungeons, etc.
The game is easy if you use imbalanced perks+ai abuse+low difficulty. If you auto impose some balancing restraints (for example, no smithing and enchanting) the game becames challenging and fun at max difficulty (master).
"The tactics... no. Amateurs discuss tactics, professional soldiers study logistics." - Tom Clancy, Red Storm Rising
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13410 Posts
November 24 2011 17:32 GMT
#7647
On November 25 2011 02:27 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 02:19 rblstr wrote:
On November 25 2011 01:52 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Map is too small, I have barely started the story and I have already gone pretty much everywhere. I am like level 30 and i have just joined the companions and have only just gotten to the point where you are meant to unlock your first shout. Another point, game is too easy, I have died like once. The leveling up stuff is way to simple, it is impossible to make a bad character, no matter what you do you will be fine. Overall the game has been a disappointment so far. The world is nice if small but everything else is lack luster so far.


How is the map small?
Its bigger than the last 2 TES games? :|


Some people just pick anything to hate on if they don't like the game for whatever reason to begin with.


He clearly has not just gone wandering into dungeons. 3/4s of the map is underground and in the mountains. So the scale seems perfectly reasonable.

Its a pretty large game idk what is larger and feels like it has the same scale. I can play GTA4 its huge but its all on one level I can't go into a house and spend an hour or two exploring it
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
November 24 2011 17:42 GMT
#7648
Let's place bets. How long until sex mods?
Platinum Support GOD
Egyptian_Head
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa508 Posts
November 24 2011 17:43 GMT
#7649
On November 25 2011 02:19 rblstr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 01:52 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Map is too small, I have barely started the story and I have already gone pretty much everywhere. I am like level 30 and i have just joined the companions and have only just gotten to the point where you are meant to unlock your first shout. Another point, game is too easy, I have died like once. The leveling up stuff is way to simple, it is impossible to make a bad character, no matter what you do you will be fine. Overall the game has been a disappointment so far. The world is nice if small but everything else is lack luster so far.


How is the map small?
Its bigger than the last 2 TES games? :|

I wouldn't say bigger, I think oblivion had a bigger map. Don't know. Maybe if half the dungeons weren't just one room I might feel different, the cities are fine plenty of those. Its the wilderness I am talking about. I cannot count how many times I have gone into a dungeon and it has been one or two rooms. There are some nice long ones, normally have a power at the end, I just wish every dungeon had the same level of commitment than just those. I suppose the size of the map isn't really the issue I mean it does take a long time to walk to one end of the map to the other, its the amount of time it has taken me to explore it going into most dungeons.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
November 24 2011 17:44 GMT
#7650
On November 25 2011 01:52 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Map is too small, I have barely started the story and I have already gone pretty much everywhere. I am like level 30 and i have just joined the companions and have only just gotten to the point where you are meant to unlock your first shout. Another point, game is too easy, I have died like once. The leveling up stuff is way to simple, it is impossible to make a bad character, no matter what you do you will be fine. Overall the game has been a disappointment so far. The world is nice if small but everything else is lack luster so far.


Haha what? There are certainly flaws with the game (mostly the bugs and difficulty being way too easy or way too hard), but I'm not sure any game would satisfy your ridiculously high standards. The map is huge, especially when fully explored so you can see exactly how much there is and how many different dungeons there are. But if you're level 30 and have barely done any quest lines, you know that already. You're playing on Master and have only died once? You must be playing a min/maxed enchanting/smithing character, in which case it's only easy because you decided to break the game.

There are plenty of ways to make a bad (challenging character). Not sure what you mean here.
Egyptian_Head
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa508 Posts
November 24 2011 17:46 GMT
#7651
On November 25 2011 02:27 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 02:19 rblstr wrote:
On November 25 2011 01:52 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Map is too small, I have barely started the story and I have already gone pretty much everywhere. I am like level 30 and i have just joined the companions and have only just gotten to the point where you are meant to unlock your first shout. Another point, game is too easy, I have died like once. The leveling up stuff is way to simple, it is impossible to make a bad character, no matter what you do you will be fine. Overall the game has been a disappointment so far. The world is nice if small but everything else is lack luster so far.


How is the map small?
Its bigger than the last 2 TES games? :|


Some people just pick anything to hate on if they don't like the game for whatever reason to begin with.

Perhaps I should clarify. Yes it is a bigger game than most, yes it is a better game than most. I went in with very high expectations, I was disappointed the game did not meet my expectations. It might as I get further into the story but so far it hasn't. Went I say the game has been a disappointment I am not saying it is bad, I am saying that it has not reached my expectations.
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
November 24 2011 17:48 GMT
#7652
On November 25 2011 01:52 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Map is too small, I have barely started the story and I have already gone pretty much everywhere. I am like level 30 and i have just joined the companions and have only just gotten to the point where you are meant to unlock your first shout. Another point, game is too easy, I have died like once. The leveling up stuff is way to simple, it is impossible to make a bad character, no matter what you do you will be fine. Overall the game has been a disappointment so far. The world is nice if small but everything else is lack luster so far.



You are insane.
The map is huge with all the dungeons inclusive, and there are bound to be expansions and custom mods.
oh and you must be playing on lowest difficulty, cuz on master difficulty, I've been 1 shotted gazillion times already... Do you know the anger flowing in you when you are at 80% HP and a bandit archer 1 shot you with an arrow? I guess not.
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
November 24 2011 17:51 GMT
#7653
On November 25 2011 01:52 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Map is too small, I have barely started the story and I have already gone pretty much everywhere. I am like level 30 and i have just joined the companions and have only just gotten to the point where you are meant to unlock your first shout. Another point, game is too easy, I have died like once. The leveling up stuff is way to simple, it is impossible to make a bad character, no matter what you do you will be fine. Overall the game has been a disappointment so far. The world is nice if small but everything else is lack luster so far.

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Egyptian_Head
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 17:57:58
November 24 2011 17:52 GMT
#7654
On November 25 2011 02:44 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 01:52 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Map is too small, I have barely started the story and I have already gone pretty much everywhere. I am like level 30 and i have just joined the companions and have only just gotten to the point where you are meant to unlock your first shout. Another point, game is too easy, I have died like once. The leveling up stuff is way to simple, it is impossible to make a bad character, no matter what you do you will be fine. Overall the game has been a disappointment so far. The world is nice if small but everything else is lack luster so far.


Haha what? There are certainly flaws with the game (mostly the bugs and difficulty being way too easy or way too hard), but I'm not sure any game would satisfy your ridiculously high standards. The map is huge, especially when fully explored so you can see exactly how much there is and how many different dungeons there are. But if you're level 30 and have barely done any quest lines, you know that already. You're playing on Master and have only died once? You must be playing a min/maxed enchanting/smithing character, in which case it's only easy because you decided to break the game.

There are plenty of ways to make a bad (challenging character). Not sure what you mean here.

Or the game over loads you with potions. I mean I pick up all the potions, I buy more when I am low. I don't see how I can die, the game overloads you with money if you explore and are always looting, I don't see why you wouldn't always have means to heal yourself. Do I even have to mention the amount of alchemy supplys you find and can make potions with?
Egyptian_Head
Profile Joined October 2010
South Africa508 Posts
November 24 2011 17:56 GMT
#7655
On November 25 2011 02:48 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 01:52 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Map is too small, I have barely started the story and I have already gone pretty much everywhere. I am like level 30 and i have just joined the companions and have only just gotten to the point where you are meant to unlock your first shout. Another point, game is too easy, I have died like once. The leveling up stuff is way to simple, it is impossible to make a bad character, no matter what you do you will be fine. Overall the game has been a disappointment so far. The world is nice if small but everything else is lack luster so far.



You are insane.
The map is huge with all the dungeons inclusive, and there are bound to be expansions and custom mods.
oh and you must be playing on lowest difficulty, cuz on master difficulty, I've been 1 shotted gazillion times already... Do you know the anger flowing in you when you are at 80% HP and a bandit archer 1 shot you with an arrow? I guess not.

Arrows are insanely easy to dodge. Get better armor, develop your sneak skill. Plenty ways to avoid being one shotted. Btw the like 1 time was an exaggeration.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
November 24 2011 17:58 GMT
#7656
My only complaint is how pathetically simple Alduin is to kill. A few thunderbolts and he was down since he was too busy hitting those 3 dudes instead of me. I literally stood no chance of dying.
Platinum Support GOD
Overpowered
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic764 Posts
November 24 2011 18:04 GMT
#7657
On November 25 2011 02:19 rblstr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 01:52 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Map is too small, I have barely started the story and I have already gone pretty much everywhere. I am like level 30 and i have just joined the companions and have only just gotten to the point where you are meant to unlock your first shout. Another point, game is too easy, I have died like once. The leveling up stuff is way to simple, it is impossible to make a bad character, no matter what you do you will be fine. Overall the game has been a disappointment so far. The world is nice if small but everything else is lack luster so far.


How is the map small?
Its bigger than the last 2 TES games? :|

Cyrodiil was bigger, but Skyrim is more detailed.
Just another gold Protoss...
toemn
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany915 Posts
November 24 2011 18:08 GMT
#7658
i need some help with this thief quest, it seems to be glitched. halp.

+ Show Spoiler +
so i got to nightingale hall and put the nightingale armor on, now karliah and the other guy talked for a bit. the problem is karliah simply walked away after the conversation. but she needs to pull the lever in order to open to gate to start the ceremony to become a nightingale. i've left the hall and there she is walking back to the city. what can i do now
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 24 2011 18:10 GMT
#7659
On November 25 2011 03:08 toemn wrote:
i need some help with this thief quest, it seems to be glitched. halp.

+ Show Spoiler +
so i got to nightingale hall and put the nightingale armor on, now karliah and the other guy talked for a bit. the problem is karliah simply walked away after the conversation. but she needs to pull the lever in order to open to gate to start the ceremony to become a nightingale. i've left the hall and there she is walking back to the city. what can i do now


+ Show Spoiler +
reload your autosave from when you entered nightengale area and go through the quest again. Same thing happened to me. She opened the gate for me after I reloaded ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
toemn
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany915 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 18:23:56
November 24 2011 18:15 GMT
#7660
i have no savefile of this ;/

what can i do now?

EDIT: i tried noclipping on the rune but it won't work. i think i have no skip this part of the quest via console, i have no clue which command that would be.

EDIT2: now i ported her via "player.placeatme 0001B07F". now she uses the trigger again and again but the damn door won't open.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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