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DrSeRRoD
Profile Joined October 2010
United States490 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 16:38:58
November 23 2011 16:34 GMT
#7541
On November 24 2011 01:32 daemir wrote:
on PC you can just open console, click your companion and type "disable" then "enable" (without quotes) and the companion should lvl up to your own. Save before trying though, the NPC might respawn back at their home.


That works too for PC if you want to keep her; no console for the consoles.
SonSon
Profile Joined June 2011
United States106 Posts
November 23 2011 18:07 GMT
#7542
On November 24 2011 00:10 Warfie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 00:07 smoos wrote:
Companions can only die if you kill them yourself.
Don't know about better tanks..

This isn't true, I've had a couple companions (including Lydia) die to strong/semi-strong creeps if left unattended. Giants can one shot your companions, but I've seen them die to more standard variations of enemies as well. I haven't noticed any pattern but I'm guessing maybe they are killable when in their 'wounded' state, so if for some reason the attacking mob doesn't switch aggro to you, the companion may be killed. Not sure though, all I know is they can die without it being by your own hand.


I think it's similar to when an enemy gets weakened is down on one knee, the follower will just run past it to kill another nearby enemy, but if it's the only enemy around, the follower will kill him.

I've already had Lydia die and didn't want to re-load for her.

On another note, it's best to stop sneaking when your follower is in a battle. I've had many of times where I accidentally shot my follower in the back and one-shotted him/her.
GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
November 23 2011 18:54 GMT
#7543
How does everyone feel about the master level spells?

I have master level Destruction, Conjuration, and Alteration spells right now, and I never used them. The Destruction spells would be good if they didn't have that absurd 5 second cast time, I find I almost always will be interrupted or killed before I get the spell off, and I would do more damage if I had just spammed Thunderbolt/Incinerate/Ice Spear.

The Conjuration spells are actually pretty fun. I could imagine Undead Thrall too be quite strong depending on what enemy you resurrect, but the AI is absolutely retarded. I still use Dremora Lords 95% of the time.

I don't use the Alteration spell mostly because I rarely get hit, and when I do am wearing a shield, and don't really need more damage reduction. I use a lot of ebonyflesh, but that is because again, it doesn't take 5 seconds to cast. It also lasts 3x as long.

I am looking forward to when mods cut that cast animation down to a reasonable length, I want to use those destruction spells.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 23 2011 19:03 GMT
#7544
On November 24 2011 00:35 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 00:10 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Companions die if they get fucked up too much. If they are downed like over 3 times in short succession they dead.

really? i remember a lighning mage which one shotted me and i had to be super lucky to kill it. he however downed my follower like 20 times probably....

only times lydia died was when i killed her. happened twice so far.

also: really hard to tell which follower makes the best tank as they are not scaling with your level but have to level on their own (afaik, as my lydia seems much better than the other followers i tried).

Damage over time affects them as well, so if they get poisoned or hit by fire and then go down, they will continue to be damaged from it and maybe die.

About 6 levels in to my Assassin character, started the thieves guild (just got the armor), it's been the most fun I've had with the game. I really like the sneaking and the different quests; maybe it's cause I got tired of running up to dudes and smacking them until they die.
DrSeRRoD
Profile Joined October 2010
United States490 Posts
November 23 2011 19:35 GMT
#7545
On November 24 2011 03:54 GreenManalishi wrote:
How does everyone feel about the master level spells?


I feel conjuration has the best as the destruction ones are not so hot but the permanent pets are pretty great. Dead Thrall is probably my favorite spell in the game, especially combined with Twin Souls. I was hoping for a better long-lasting armor from alteration at master though, like Dragonbone Skin or something.
Rjay
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada73 Posts
November 23 2011 20:06 GMT
#7546
For anyone that's level 50+, how slow is leveling now? Right now I'm at a point where I'm getting tired of playing my 2-handed barbarian style nord, and I want to experiment with some other styles of game play like sneak, one handed and archery. I don't know if I should just create another character or just change my main to some half assed all around character.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 23 2011 20:12 GMT
#7547
On November 24 2011 05:06 Rjay wrote:
For anyone that's level 50+, how slow is leveling now? Right now I'm at a point where I'm getting tired of playing my 2-handed barbarian style nord, and I want to experiment with some other styles of game play like sneak, one handed and archery. I don't know if I should just create another character or just change my main to some half assed all around character.


It's really easy if you start using the other skills. As you approach level 45-55 you'll reach a point where it's almost impossible to level up because all the skills you use are level 100 and can't get any higher. However, if you wake up one morning and suddenly start using all the other skills (like switch from block/heavy/one-handed to light/two-handed) it'll take a bit at first, but you'll start leveling up again.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
PoopLord
Profile Joined May 2010
537 Posts
November 23 2011 20:15 GMT
#7548
Just unlocked the sweep sideways power attack perk for two handers and I keep hitting my companion because she's melee too...
Gak2
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada418 Posts
November 23 2011 20:27 GMT
#7549
On November 24 2011 05:15 PoopLord wrote:
Just unlocked the sweep sideways power attack perk for two handers and I keep hitting my companion because she's melee too...

get a different companion, lol.

I just maxed out my first skill last night and it was.. sneak!
I probably sneak way too much, I don't think I could ever play a non-sneak character anymore
MrRicewife
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada515 Posts
November 23 2011 20:34 GMT
#7550
Finally hit level 100 smithing. But I spent my last perk up before getting dragon... doh! Gotta level up once more and then my char will look SHaweeeet
So? My dad can beat up your dad. - Jesus
Raekhor
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium97 Posts
November 23 2011 20:53 GMT
#7551
wow has anyone been able to defeat sigdis gauldurson in reachwater rock? he keeps oneshotting me with unrelenting shout o.o
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 21:39:42
November 23 2011 21:36 GMT
#7552
On November 24 2011 00:35 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 00:10 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Companions die if they get fucked up too much. If they are downed like over 3 times in short succession they dead.

really? i remember a lighning mage which one shotted me and i had to be super lucky to kill it. he however downed my follower like 20 times probably....

only times lydia died was when i killed her. happened twice so far.

also: really hard to tell which follower makes the best tank as they are not scaling with your level but have to level on their own (afaik, as my lydia seems much better than the other followers i tried).

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Followers

tl;dr:

- npcs don't level at all, their level is locked when you enter their area for the first time.

- when an npc hits low health it falls over like an essential. enemies won't keep attacking, but he/she can still take damage from things like poison, splash attacks, and stray arrows. this is probably why some people think npcs cant die, if you're not a mage, chances are good you won't accidentally hit your companion

also, not listed on the guide, but npcs aren't affected by the difficulty modifier, so if you're playing on master, something that could one shot your companion, would have to be strong enough to one shot you four times over

thanes, in particular, are much more powerful than most companions, so lydia tends to remain viable for a very long time
aaaaa
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
November 23 2011 21:50 GMT
#7553
On November 24 2011 06:36 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 00:35 HolydaKing wrote:
On November 24 2011 00:10 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Companions die if they get fucked up too much. If they are downed like over 3 times in short succession they dead.

really? i remember a lighning mage which one shotted me and i had to be super lucky to kill it. he however downed my follower like 20 times probably....

only times lydia died was when i killed her. happened twice so far.

also: really hard to tell which follower makes the best tank as they are not scaling with your level but have to level on their own (afaik, as my lydia seems much better than the other followers i tried).

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Followers

tl;dr:

- npcs don't level at all, their level is locked when you enter their area for the first time.

- when an npc hits low health it falls over like an essential. enemies won't keep attacking, but he/she can still take damage from things like poison, splash attacks, and stray arrows. this is probably why some people think npcs cant die, if you're not a mage, chances are good you won't accidentally hit your companion

also, not listed on the guide, but npcs aren't affected by the difficulty modifier, so if you're playing on master, something that could one shot your companion, would have to be strong enough to one shot you four times over

thanes, in particular, are much more powerful than most companions, so lydia tends to remain viable for a very long time


She remains viable as a pack mule forever ;P
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
November 23 2011 21:51 GMT
#7554
On November 24 2011 05:34 MrRicewife wrote:
Finally hit level 100 smithing. But I spent my last perk up before getting dragon... doh! Gotta level up once more and then my char will look SHaweeeet


I had the same thing but was kinda dissapointed with dragon armor, especially heavy variant. Imo it looks best with light body armor variant and rest all heavy dragon armor. I think full ebony looks best thought. ( I hate the red glow on daedra stuff ).
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Ian Ian Ian
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
915 Posts
November 23 2011 21:53 GMT
#7555
Jesus.. ran into a forsworn Briaheart today that killed me in one shot.. I have 300 hp..wtf?! He did it three times before I gave up and slew him from afar with my bow.
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
November 23 2011 21:54 GMT
#7556
On November 24 2011 06:50 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 06:36 Zanno wrote:
On November 24 2011 00:35 HolydaKing wrote:
On November 24 2011 00:10 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Companions die if they get fucked up too much. If they are downed like over 3 times in short succession they dead.

really? i remember a lighning mage which one shotted me and i had to be super lucky to kill it. he however downed my follower like 20 times probably....

only times lydia died was when i killed her. happened twice so far.

also: really hard to tell which follower makes the best tank as they are not scaling with your level but have to level on their own (afaik, as my lydia seems much better than the other followers i tried).

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Followers

tl;dr:

- npcs don't level at all, their level is locked when you enter their area for the first time.

- when an npc hits low health it falls over like an essential. enemies won't keep attacking, but he/she can still take damage from things like poison, splash attacks, and stray arrows. this is probably why some people think npcs cant die, if you're not a mage, chances are good you won't accidentally hit your companion

also, not listed on the guide, but npcs aren't affected by the difficulty modifier, so if you're playing on master, something that could one shot your companion, would have to be strong enough to one shot you four times over

thanes, in particular, are much more powerful than most companions, so lydia tends to remain viable for a very long time


She remains viable as a pack mule forever ;P

lol yeah

addendum: i read through the discussion page real quick to make sure the info was accurate and it seems that followers are supposed to level up but it's extremely bugged. if you do some stuff with the console, you can get the follower stats set to the level they're supposed to be at.
aaaaa
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 23 2011 21:55 GMT
#7557
On November 24 2011 06:53 Ian Ian Ian wrote:
Jesus.. ran into a forsworn Briaheart today that killed me in one shot.. I have 300 hp..wtf?! He did it three times before I gave up and slew him from afar with my bow.


Resist gear is not optional. I suggest you enchant
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Tezzick
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada187 Posts
November 23 2011 22:19 GMT
#7558
On November 24 2011 05:53 Raekhor wrote:
wow has anyone been able to defeat sigdis gauldurson in reachwater rock? he keeps oneshotting me with unrelenting shout o.o

I had to use a fireball staff to kill him.
I'd hide behind one of the pillars where his coffin is, peek out and blast him, hide, peek out and blast, etc.
You're gonna need to learn that for the end of the quest too, lol.
"I'm a monster" - Buster
Tremor
Profile Joined February 2010
United States92 Posts
November 23 2011 22:21 GMT
#7559
Would you guys recommend purchasing the Elder Scrolls 1-4 before 5?
Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac? - George Carlin
Pkol
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia176 Posts
November 23 2011 22:25 GMT
#7560
On November 24 2011 07:21 Tremor wrote:
Would you guys recommend purchasing the Elder Scrolls 1-4 before 5?


No, 1-2 are great games but really oudated now. Morrowind is awesome, but if you can't get past the graphics it might not appeal to you. Oblivion is good, but there really isn't any reason to not just go straight into skyrim. Go back if you feel the need for more after you've played skyrim to death.
lolwut?
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