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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
November 23 2011 14:39 GMT
#7521
On November 23 2011 23:38 antilyon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 20:28 Cramsy wrote:
On November 23 2011 18:40 firehand101 wrote:
Really want to get this...All my friends have it except me, but i dont really want to waste as much time as i did in oblivion, is it worth it?


I don't understand. You want the game but think it's a waste of time?

He wants a real life and a skyrim life, but is afraid he'll lose his real life if he buy skyrim. A valid argument in my opinion :p


Solution: substitute sleep with caffeine and sugar, eating six meals per solar day. Play Skyrim at night, work during the day. Problem solved.

It also helps to be an insomniac.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
November 23 2011 14:44 GMT
#7522
It's worth it but you will surely lose your real life in the meantime.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
November 23 2011 14:59 GMT
#7523
On November 23 2011 18:35 -Archangel- wrote:
Can companions die during combat?
I got Lydia with me but she only drops down when really hurt and later runs back to me.

Is there a better tanky companion in Whiterun or around then Lydia? I am playing a Mage.
I put Lydia in a whole suit of flawless Elven armor and gave her flawless Star forge steel axe and a superior Dwarven shield. She still gets defeated in every dungeon where there are more then 2-3 opponents.

I am sorry to quote myself but nobody answered my questions.
smoos
Profile Joined November 2011
35 Posts
November 23 2011 15:07 GMT
#7524
Companions can only die if you kill them yourself.
Don't know about better tanks..
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2848 Posts
November 23 2011 15:10 GMT
#7525
On November 24 2011 00:07 smoos wrote:
Companions can only die if you kill them yourself.
Don't know about better tanks..

This isn't true, I've had a couple companions (including Lydia) die to strong/semi-strong creeps if left unattended. Giants can one shot your companions, but I've seen them die to more standard variations of enemies as well. I haven't noticed any pattern but I'm guessing maybe they are killable when in their 'wounded' state, so if for some reason the attacking mob doesn't switch aggro to you, the companion may be killed. Not sure though, all I know is they can die without it being by your own hand.
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
November 23 2011 15:10 GMT
#7526
Companions die if they get fucked up too much. If they are downed like over 3 times in short succession they dead.
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
November 23 2011 15:13 GMT
#7527
On November 24 2011 00:10 Warfie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 00:07 smoos wrote:
Companions can only die if you kill them yourself.
Don't know about better tanks..

This isn't true, I've had a couple companions (including Lydia) die to strong/semi-strong creeps if left unattended. Giants can one shot your companions, but I've seen them die to more standard variations of enemies as well. I haven't noticed any pattern but I'm guessing maybe they are killable when in their 'wounded' state, so if for some reason the attacking mob doesn't switch aggro to you, the companion may be killed. Not sure though, all I know is they can die without it being by your own hand.


They can die from friendly fire. I had that Azura priestess-thingy as a companion but now she's lost. Dunno if she died or I forgot her or something but I can't find her
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 15:39:05
November 23 2011 15:35 GMT
#7528
On November 24 2011 00:10 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Companions die if they get fucked up too much. If they are downed like over 3 times in short succession they dead.

really? i remember a lighning mage which one shotted me and i had to be super lucky to kill it. he however downed my follower like 20 times probably....

only times lydia died was when i killed her. happened twice so far.

also: really hard to tell which follower makes the best tank as they are not scaling with your level but have to level on their own (afaik, as my lydia seems much better than the other followers i tried).
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
November 23 2011 15:38 GMT
#7529
On November 24 2011 00:35 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 00:10 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Companions die if they get fucked up too much. If they are downed like over 3 times in short succession they dead.

really? i remember a lighning mage which one shotted me and i had to be super lucky to kill it. he however downed my follower like 20 times probably....

only times lydia died was when i killed her. happened twice so far.

NPCs seem to detarget your merc the second they go down on their knees, so they cannot kill them with autoattacks. AE attacks such as dragon's breath or fireballs as well as your own attacks can still hit them, though, and this will kill them.
Savior broke my heart ;_; || twitch.tv/onnings
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 23 2011 15:40 GMT
#7530
On November 24 2011 00:38 plated.rawr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 00:35 HolydaKing wrote:
On November 24 2011 00:10 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Companions die if they get fucked up too much. If they are downed like over 3 times in short succession they dead.

really? i remember a lighning mage which one shotted me and i had to be super lucky to kill it. he however downed my follower like 20 times probably....

only times lydia died was when i killed her. happened twice so far.

NPCs seem to detarget your merc the second they go down on their knees, so they cannot kill them with autoattacks. AE attacks such as dragon's breath or fireballs as well as your own attacks can still hit them, though, and this will kill them.

yeah, that makes sense! ^_^
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 23 2011 15:46 GMT
#7531
On November 23 2011 20:57 topoulo wrote:
So whats everyones most fun builds so far ? At least without maxing enchanting - smithing to make a godlike char.




Sneak archery is very fun.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
November 23 2011 15:49 GMT
#7532
On November 24 2011 00:38 plated.rawr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 00:35 HolydaKing wrote:
On November 24 2011 00:10 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Companions die if they get fucked up too much. If they are downed like over 3 times in short succession they dead.

really? i remember a lighning mage which one shotted me and i had to be super lucky to kill it. he however downed my follower like 20 times probably....

only times lydia died was when i killed her. happened twice so far.

NPCs seem to detarget your merc the second they go down on their knees, so they cannot kill them with autoattacks. AE attacks such as dragon's breath or fireballs as well as your own attacks can still hit them, though, and this will kill them.

And I guess just very strong foes? Companions go down when they have very little hp left and I am pretty sure mine died to a bandit powerattack which I was unfortunate to get hit by too and did over 120 damage.
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 15:55:31
November 23 2011 15:49 GMT
#7533
On November 24 2011 00:46 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 20:57 topoulo wrote:
So whats everyones most fun builds so far ? At least without maxing enchanting - smithing to make a godlike char.




Sneak archery is very fun.


I'll second this, but it's also pretty easy. Quite cool though, just powerful.

Edit: it also levels weird since I literally only used sneak and archery, you hardly ever get hit so once they plateau and I leveled ench/smithing I spent like 20 hours where i leveled once from misc lockpicking and shit lol before I decided to use some other combat stuff
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
November 23 2011 15:56 GMT
#7534
On November 24 2011 00:49 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 00:38 plated.rawr wrote:
On November 24 2011 00:35 HolydaKing wrote:
On November 24 2011 00:10 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Companions die if they get fucked up too much. If they are downed like over 3 times in short succession they dead.

really? i remember a lighning mage which one shotted me and i had to be super lucky to kill it. he however downed my follower like 20 times probably....

only times lydia died was when i killed her. happened twice so far.

NPCs seem to detarget your merc the second they go down on their knees, so they cannot kill them with autoattacks. AE attacks such as dragon's breath or fireballs as well as your own attacks can still hit them, though, and this will kill them.

And I guess just very strong foes? Companions go down when they have very little hp left and I am pretty sure mine died to a bandit powerattack which I was unfortunate to get hit by too and did over 120 damage.

Yea, I guess that works too. Mercs (and regular NPCs as well, actually) drop to their knees at around 10% health, so I guess a blow that does greater damage than this would kill them before they'd get any time to get kneeling.
Savior broke my heart ;_; || twitch.tv/onnings
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
November 23 2011 16:08 GMT
#7535
Giant hitting your companion with that "up to the skies mofo" strike might not kill the companion with the initial hit...but the fall from low orbit altitudes will >_>
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 16:18:17
November 23 2011 16:16 GMT
#7536
On November 23 2011 23:59 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 18:35 -Archangel- wrote:
Can companions die during combat?
I got Lydia with me but she only drops down when really hurt and later runs back to me.

Is there a better tanky companion in Whiterun or around then Lydia? I am playing a Mage.
I put Lydia in a whole suit of flawless Elven armor and gave her flawless Star forge steel axe and a superior Dwarven shield. She still gets defeated in every dungeon where there are more then 2-3 opponents.

I am sorry to quote myself but nobody answered my questions.


They wont die in combat if hit by an NPC, they'll always rez up. Though, if they're low HP and you deal friendly fire to them and it finishes them, they WONT rez. So you really have to be cautious and not kill your own companion.

If you're 100% sure your companion didn't die, just "Wait" for 1-2hours, and it'll come back.

And I don't know if there's better tank, as I'm using Jenessa, and she's tanking alright for me on Master difficulty, never had to switch.

On November 24 2011 01:08 daemir wrote:
Giant hitting your companion with that "up to the skies mofo" strike might not kill the companion with the initial hit...but the fall from low orbit altitudes will >_>



Oh cool, haven't happened to me, but that's another possibility.
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
smoos
Profile Joined November 2011
35 Posts
November 23 2011 16:23 GMT
#7537
My Lydia wasn't dead when she hit the ground after 1min of falling through the air.
So it might not be always the case.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 16:31:56
November 23 2011 16:30 GMT
#7538
People saying this game is easy, try to play on hardest difficulty. I play as a mage and even though I am lvl 25 I get two-shotted by the better dragons, maybe 3 shotted by the black dragons. So it's not easy, I think I even get one-shot killed by those Giants/Mammoths/Ice Sabers/Ice Bears etc. Of course don't know how it is playing melee maybe it is a little bit easier/harder.


On November 23 2011 20:57 topoulo wrote:
So whats everyones most fun builds so far ? At least without maxing enchanting - smithing to make a godlike char.




My most fun build is by far the Illusionist/Destro mage, 100 in illusion with all master illusion spells can cause some serious havoc, especially with many mobs around. Then Invinsibility for sneak mode rocks! ^^
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
DrSeRRoD
Profile Joined October 2010
United States490 Posts
November 23 2011 16:30 GMT
#7539
Companions are leveled depending when you discovered the area they are from. They also do not level up with you. Lydia, being one of the first companions, is probably too low for those areas and it getting owned. Go to a new town and get one there with higher stats and more health. Also, as a mage, try conjuring Atronachts or Dremora Lords to help with the tanking.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
November 23 2011 16:32 GMT
#7540
on PC you can just open console, click your companion and type "disable" then "enable" (without quotes) and the companion should lvl up to your own. Save before trying though, the NPC might respawn back at their home.
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