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DrSeRRoD
Profile Joined October 2010
United States490 Posts
November 15 2011 13:29 GMT
#5461
There are about 7-8 houses/rooms in the game and I believe 3 of them come free via questing. The cheapest is 5,000 in Whiterun and the most expensive is 25,000 in Solitude (it's nice) and they require some questing to earn the right to purchase them.
Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
November 15 2011 13:32 GMT
#5462
On November 15 2011 21:33 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I posted this on reddit but I have a feeling I'll get flayed alive in there...

Don't get me wrong, it's obviously a good game but it just seems pretty dull.

The more I play it the more I feel that the world just seems empty. There doesn't seem to be any travelling merchants going along the roads that have escorts. This means that while I'm adventuring in the wild and make it back to a road that there is no little surprise, no one I can talk to, to either exchange loot or even hold up.
Same thing with bandits, why aren't there any bandits hiding alongside roadsides ready to ambush caravans/NPCs? Or fellow adventurers going to and from towns that you can have a little chat with?

I don't really care for the random x x prisoner x groups that roam around and I think adding NPCs that actually are out in the world would add so much life to the game. If you played Oblivion then you may remember these things were added in mods and they were pretty cool.

Adventuring is a bit dull. I've come across quite a few places that have cages in them and there are never any prisoners. How hard would it be to add someone that says thanks for releasing me and then you either let them free or shake 'em up. Or that they start a quest line to retrieve something they own from the boss of the location or to head back to where ever they came from and receive a reward, or even escort them back to civilisation?
It's also a bit dull because there doesn't seem to be a big enemy list. I'm getting a bit bored clobbering bandits, necromancers and vampires at most of the locations I go to. Or those dead nords. And Spriggans are annoying.

There doesn't seem to be many choices in quests either. Sure you can probably remember a few but it would be nice to get to the end of a bandit cave and be able to talk to their leader who is impressed with your killings of his companions and tries to make a deal or you get to join him for some loot and go heist up wandering caravans or kill soldiers nearby. There just doesn't seem to be many choices when you get to enemy leaders, it's simply enter x and murder everything.

Dragons seem a bit of a let down. They can be very few and far between and they aren't exactly hard fights. Their animations in the sky look a bit awkward and when they get to the ground, what to they do? They either melt your face or peck you.
It's a freakin' dragon man. Where's the tail swipe or shielding with wings or locking with the jaws and tossing. There are other enemies that are harder than dragons and it's a bit of a letdown when these fights should be EPIC but they just aren't.

Loot seems a bit of a letdown too. I suppose it's a good amount that drops but not many of it seems helpful to me apart from disenchanting. Smithing is pretty much better than anything you'll find and add that to enchanting and there is 0 chance you'll need anything.

It feels like Oblivion completely remade yet without many world improvements. Sometimes it feels empty like an MMO where anywhere that isn't a town or village just seems emptyObviously I'm going to keep playing but after I complete it with this character I'm going to wait for some tasty, tasty mods
.


I don't want to be a dick but it sounds like you should play WoW. It has everything you described except choices at the end of questlines.
Travelling NPCs: Check!
Other adventurers: Check!
Prisoners in cages: Check!
Retrieve key to said cage quest: Check!
Escort said prisoners: Check!
Huge enemy list: Check!
Dragons with plenty of skills: Check! (WATCH THE TAIL!)
Crafting that is not overpowered: Check!
Dropped loot exponential power growth: Check!

I can't wait for Skyrim to be patched so I can go pick it up and play it.
Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
November 15 2011 13:35 GMT
#5463
On November 15 2011 22:32 Cuddle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 21:33 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I posted this on reddit but I have a feeling I'll get flayed alive in there...

Don't get me wrong, it's obviously a good game but it just seems pretty dull.

The more I play it the more I feel that the world just seems empty. There doesn't seem to be any travelling merchants going along the roads that have escorts. This means that while I'm adventuring in the wild and make it back to a road that there is no little surprise, no one I can talk to, to either exchange loot or even hold up.
Same thing with bandits, why aren't there any bandits hiding alongside roadsides ready to ambush caravans/NPCs? Or fellow adventurers going to and from towns that you can have a little chat with?

I don't really care for the random x x prisoner x groups that roam around and I think adding NPCs that actually are out in the world would add so much life to the game. If you played Oblivion then you may remember these things were added in mods and they were pretty cool.

Adventuring is a bit dull. I've come across quite a few places that have cages in them and there are never any prisoners. How hard would it be to add someone that says thanks for releasing me and then you either let them free or shake 'em up. Or that they start a quest line to retrieve something they own from the boss of the location or to head back to where ever they came from and receive a reward, or even escort them back to civilisation?
It's also a bit dull because there doesn't seem to be a big enemy list. I'm getting a bit bored clobbering bandits, necromancers and vampires at most of the locations I go to. Or those dead nords. And Spriggans are annoying.

There doesn't seem to be many choices in quests either. Sure you can probably remember a few but it would be nice to get to the end of a bandit cave and be able to talk to their leader who is impressed with your killings of his companions and tries to make a deal or you get to join him for some loot and go heist up wandering caravans or kill soldiers nearby. There just doesn't seem to be many choices when you get to enemy leaders, it's simply enter x and murder everything.

Dragons seem a bit of a let down. They can be very few and far between and they aren't exactly hard fights. Their animations in the sky look a bit awkward and when they get to the ground, what to they do? They either melt your face or peck you.
It's a freakin' dragon man. Where's the tail swipe or shielding with wings or locking with the jaws and tossing. There are other enemies that are harder than dragons and it's a bit of a letdown when these fights should be EPIC but they just aren't.

Loot seems a bit of a letdown too. I suppose it's a good amount that drops but not many of it seems helpful to me apart from disenchanting. Smithing is pretty much better than anything you'll find and add that to enchanting and there is 0 chance you'll need anything.

It feels like Oblivion completely remade yet without many world improvements. Sometimes it feels empty like an MMO where anywhere that isn't a town or village just seems emptyObviously I'm going to keep playing but after I complete it with this character I'm going to wait for some tasty, tasty mods
.


I don't want to be a dick but it sounds like you should play WoW. It has everything you described except choices at the end of questlines.
Travelling NPCs: Check!
Other adventurers: Check!
Prisoners in cages: Check!
Retrieve key to said cage quest: Check!
Escort said prisoners: Check!
Huge enemy list: Check!
Dragons with plenty of skills: Check! (WATCH THE TAIL!)
Crafting that is not overpowered: Check!
Dropped loot exponential power growth: Check!

I can't wait for Skyrim to be patched so I can go pick it up and play it.



You cant play it now?
Always look on the bright side of life
Vanchelon
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden15 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 13:45:41
November 15 2011 13:37 GMT
#5464
Dragon Tossing:


I've found that it also makes for a nice distraction for the locals, the poor things will keep running after it ad infinitum if you keep going (ye, Im evil like that^^)

Maybe I should make a vid out of it, slap on the benny hill theme and see how it goes
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 15 2011 13:45 GMT
#5465
On November 15 2011 21:42 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 21:39 Scorch wrote:
I'm considering buying Skyrim, but I have doubts about the leveling system. Oblivion was one of the very biggest disappointments in my gaming career due to the leveling system, and I soon stopped playing. Due to enemies leveling with you, I'd end up choosing skills I'd certainly never use as my main abilities. In Skyrim, do you actually feel stronger at higher levels, or do the enemies gain just as much as you (or even more) from leveling up? Do you have a sense of progression in that you start to crush enemies that used to cause you problems earlier?


enemies don't level up, yes, you bumrape the wolves later on

Eh, I think it's more of a hybrid system where some enemies remain weak at all levels while you start facing higher concentrations of higher-level enemies at higher levels and in high-level zones.

Indeed, wolves are pretty easy to deal with after a few levels. However, there is a level-scaling system where discovering a dungeon at a low-level will permanently scale it with low-level enemies while at a higher level, the dungeon is filled with a higher concentration of high-level enemies in addition to some low-level ones. As a result, you get into these situations where you are dominating low-level Bandits when you are at a higher level, but you also have to deal with their higher-level Bandit Outlaw comrades as well.
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Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1119 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-15 13:50:13
November 15 2011 13:49 GMT
#5466
Thief guild related question:

+ Show Spoiler +

I am a nightingale and have the skeleton key. Anyone tried to NOT end the guildquest and kept the key? i'm in temptation to do so. Or are there more worthwhile things to finish the quest line expect of honor and a good consience >
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
November 15 2011 13:55 GMT
#5467
On November 15 2011 22:35 Deckkie wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2011 22:32 Cuddle wrote:
I don't want to be a dick but it sounds like you should play WoW. It has everything you described except choices at the end of questlines.
Travelling NPCs: Check!
Other adventurers: Check!
Prisoners in cages: Check!
Retrieve key to said cage quest: Check!
Escort said prisoners: Check!
Huge enemy list: Check!
Dragons with plenty of skills: Check! (WATCH THE TAIL!)
Crafting that is not overpowered: Check!
Dropped loot exponential power growth: Check!

I can't wait for Skyrim to be patched so I can go pick it up and play it.



You cant play it now?


On principle, I try to avoid hyped releases and for Skyrim I think after the first bug fix patch it will be money well spent. I'm itching but I'd rather wait for a great experience.
TelV
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany121 Posts
November 15 2011 14:00 GMT
#5468
Played the shit out of Skyrim until yesterday. Went to start it up today and it crashes instantly when the loading is done.Tried every fix I were able to find,changed soundquality,launched through TESV.exe and Steam.Still not working. Bethesda,I am Dissapoint.
Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
November 15 2011 14:08 GMT
#5469
I love this game, stunning enviorments and awsome graphics. I however really dislike the gear, the stats just seem so boring. There are almost no stats that distingush the gear and makes the gear choices more then something for the looks.

Never played any Elder Scrolls games before so i dont know if im way to influenced from D2 and WoW. I hope some mod or something will fix this!
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
November 15 2011 14:16 GMT
#5470
On November 15 2011 22:32 Cuddle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 21:33 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I posted this on reddit but I have a feeling I'll get flayed alive in there...

Don't get me wrong, it's obviously a good game but it just seems pretty dull.

The more I play it the more I feel that the world just seems empty. There doesn't seem to be any travelling merchants going along the roads that have escorts. This means that while I'm adventuring in the wild and make it back to a road that there is no little surprise, no one I can talk to, to either exchange loot or even hold up.
Same thing with bandits, why aren't there any bandits hiding alongside roadsides ready to ambush caravans/NPCs? Or fellow adventurers going to and from towns that you can have a little chat with?

I don't really care for the random x x prisoner x groups that roam around and I think adding NPCs that actually are out in the world would add so much life to the game. If you played Oblivion then you may remember these things were added in mods and they were pretty cool.

Adventuring is a bit dull. I've come across quite a few places that have cages in them and there are never any prisoners. How hard would it be to add someone that says thanks for releasing me and then you either let them free or shake 'em up. Or that they start a quest line to retrieve something they own from the boss of the location or to head back to where ever they came from and receive a reward, or even escort them back to civilisation?
It's also a bit dull because there doesn't seem to be a big enemy list. I'm getting a bit bored clobbering bandits, necromancers and vampires at most of the locations I go to. Or those dead nords. And Spriggans are annoying.

There doesn't seem to be many choices in quests either. Sure you can probably remember a few but it would be nice to get to the end of a bandit cave and be able to talk to their leader who is impressed with your killings of his companions and tries to make a deal or you get to join him for some loot and go heist up wandering caravans or kill soldiers nearby. There just doesn't seem to be many choices when you get to enemy leaders, it's simply enter x and murder everything.

Dragons seem a bit of a let down. They can be very few and far between and they aren't exactly hard fights. Their animations in the sky look a bit awkward and when they get to the ground, what to they do? They either melt your face or peck you.
It's a freakin' dragon man. Where's the tail swipe or shielding with wings or locking with the jaws and tossing. There are other enemies that are harder than dragons and it's a bit of a letdown when these fights should be EPIC but they just aren't.

Loot seems a bit of a letdown too. I suppose it's a good amount that drops but not many of it seems helpful to me apart from disenchanting. Smithing is pretty much better than anything you'll find and add that to enchanting and there is 0 chance you'll need anything.

It feels like Oblivion completely remade yet without many world improvements. Sometimes it feels empty like an MMO where anywhere that isn't a town or village just seems emptyObviously I'm going to keep playing but after I complete it with this character I'm going to wait for some tasty, tasty mods
.


I don't want to be a dick but it sounds like you should play WoW. It has everything you described except choices at the end of questlines.
Travelling NPCs: Check!
Other adventurers: Check!
Prisoners in cages: Check!
Retrieve key to said cage quest: Check!
Escort said prisoners: Check!
Huge enemy list: Check!
Dragons with plenty of skills: Check! (WATCH THE TAIL!)
Crafting that is not overpowered: Check!
Dropped loot exponential power growth: Check!

I can't wait for Skyrim to be patched so I can go pick it up and play it.


Why would you even post that? I'm talking about how seemingly little Skyrim has when it could have so much more. It has a lot of content but a lot of it just seems the same...
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
GigaFlop
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1146 Posts
November 15 2011 14:27 GMT
#5471
Holy shit, I just noticed something awesome.
If you take screenshots with Steam, and look at the game in your library, the screenshots appear behind the text. I was staring at it for a solid two minutes thinking that the guy in the picture looked familiar before remembering.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ "Shift-Q oftentimes makes a capital Q" - Day[9] || iNcontrol - Alligator from heaven = ^
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
November 15 2011 14:31 GMT
#5472
The scaling is done poorly. You could "finish" the game (meaning kill the biggest badass end dragon boss) at level 10-15. Sure, you tell me "Dont rush it! Explore etc!". But it takes away alot of motivation to get better skills and stuff. They shouldve put in hardcoded levels and requirements for the mainquest. Then you couldve explored the world while improving gear and skills to eventually take on the next steps in the mainquest.
I finished the mainquest at level 24. Kinda by accident. After hours of adventuring and finishing the Thieves Guild and Broohterhood quests i thought "hmmm i should progress with the graybeard quests a bit now". Then 2 hours later whooppps - you killed the end boss dragon....I didnt even had to use any special items or potions to kill him. Was a normal straight up fight . Me in my Nightingale Armor dual wielding vs. Strongest Dragon!
I dont have to mention that it felt kinda underwhelming. Especially compared to the epicness to the rest of the game.
GigaFlop
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1146 Posts
November 15 2011 14:35 GMT
#5473
On November 15 2011 23:08 Morale wrote:
I love this game, stunning enviorments and awsome graphics. I however really dislike the gear, the stats just seem so boring. There are almost no stats that distingush the gear and makes the gear choices more then something for the looks.

Never played any Elder Scrolls games before so i dont know if im way to influenced from D2 and WoW. I hope some mod or something will fix this!

in TES games, gear isn't nearly as big of a deal as it is in d2 or WoW. You pretty much grab what works well for you. If you find a rare item, as in something with a name, you've got something rare. Gear just isn't nearly as big a deal here.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ "Shift-Q oftentimes makes a capital Q" - Day[9] || iNcontrol - Alligator from heaven = ^
DrSeRRoD
Profile Joined October 2010
United States490 Posts
November 15 2011 14:44 GMT
#5474
On November 15 2011 23:31 chroniX wrote:
I finished the mainquest at level 24.


Does this end the game or can you continue to explore and complete the other side quests and missions? Just wondering since I never played the other TES games. I just used + Show Spoiler +
Dragonrend
to down and fight + Show Spoiler +
Alduin
but now I have the + Show Spoiler +
"peace summon"
mission and was not sure how close to completing I am so wanted to make sure I don't accidentally end the game and have to reload.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 15 2011 14:48 GMT
#5475
On November 15 2011 23:44 DrSeRRoD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 23:31 chroniX wrote:
I finished the mainquest at level 24.


Does this end the game or can you continue to explore and complete the other side quests and missions? Just wondering since I never played the other TES games. I just used + Show Spoiler +
Dragonrend
to down and fight + Show Spoiler +
Alduin
but now I have the + Show Spoiler +
"peace summon"
mission and was not sure how close to completing I am so wanted to make sure I don't accidentally end the game and have to reload.

I think you can continue the game after finishing the main quest, as was the case in previous Elder Scrolls games.

The only Bethesda games that ended after the main quest (disregarding DLC) were Fallout 3 and New Vegas, and Todd Howard has gone on the record to say that he regrets going with that decision to have a hard end to those games.
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chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
November 15 2011 14:54 GMT
#5476
On November 15 2011 23:44 DrSeRRoD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2011 23:31 chroniX wrote:
I finished the mainquest at level 24.


Does this end the game or can you continue to explore and complete the other side quests and missions? Just wondering since I never played the other TES games. I just used + Show Spoiler +
Dragonrend
to down and fight + Show Spoiler +
Alduin
but now I have the + Show Spoiler +
"peace summon"
mission and was not sure how close to completing I am so wanted to make sure I don't accidentally end the game and have to reload.


The game goes on as if nothing ever happened. I dont know if any more dragons will spawn. I didnt play so much with that char since then.
But thats why i put the word finish into speech marks. In Skyrim the mainquest is not as important as in other games. Its not marked as the mainquest or something. Heck, maybe its not even the mainquest! We dont know!
BTW: You are pretty deep into the quest line - id say stop doing it and enjoy adventureing through the world a bit more. It will be better for your motivation!
mechavoc
Profile Joined December 2010
United States664 Posts
November 15 2011 15:01 GMT
#5477
On November 15 2011 21:11 matiK23 wrote:
God this game is pissing me off. I have to fight a tower full of highway banditman and a chief all at once for the Companion. Hurr durr unlimited AI stamina HURR DURR. Why the hell is the guild even called the Companion if I'm gonna solo the mission? I think I'm gonna kill every single fucking Companion member after this quest. Fuck!


With thise one I tried to pull them out one at a time, if the gang up it is bad news.
quickshot10101
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada54 Posts
November 15 2011 15:06 GMT
#5478


Elder Scrolls V Skyrim - Graphics Comparison LOW-MED-HIGH-ULTRA 1080
Dont worry, thats Halo
CutthroatCollapse
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany309 Posts
November 15 2011 15:38 GMT
#5479
You guys, I have a huge problem that is pissing me off so much, I would really appreciate if someone could help me out:

Ive bought and downloaded Skyrim directly via Steam. First time, it took me about 5 1/2 hours, I installed it, it was working. Then I realized I installed it on my new SSD which was already pretty packed, so I decided so erase everything, delete the whole steam folder, download steam again. Then, I had to download Skyrim again (or Im not not even sure if it wasnt just a new patch), which took about 7 damn hours (I have relocated somewhere else where I have slightly slower internet).

When, finally, I had downloaded it a second time, I got to the main menu in the game, then it jumped back to steam. I tried this a few times and it always jumped back to steam. AND NOW, it wants to download this whole shit again. I dont know what Ive done wrong or what exactly the problem is. Does anyone have an idea? The steam support seems totally retarded, nothing where I could mail to personally and from the specific areas of support, none of them seems to fit my problem.

Please guys, your help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
I tink, MC so sterong
StatX
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada343 Posts
November 15 2011 15:49 GMT
#5480
On November 15 2011 17:57 Torte de Lini wrote:
I really feel there's a lack of diversity in terms of animals and creatures. Maybe I'm not far enough in the game, but here's everything I recall:

(these all have snow variations)
Wolf
Skeezer/Rat
Troll
Mammoth
Rabbit
Fox
Giant
Elk
Bandits
Hunters
Army personnel
Skeletons.
Dragons
Walrus thingies

Did I forget anything? Have I not played the game enough? I'm level 17 and I've explored what I feel is a good portion of the map (nothing on the outer edges). Is it really not that diversified?


Theres more than just snow variations for some of these. The bears have at least 4 different kinds and some of them hurts if your armor rating is low.

The dragons have 3 different kinds + named ones.

You did forget the Draugr which are the zombie like monsters, the liches and the ghosts.

The vampires are also back and there are some lycanthropes too.

Furthermore, there are dwarven ruins with mechanical monsters, blind goblins now called falmers and some weird creatures with assthma (sounds like it when theyre near you) which are called Hargraven. You will also meet the forsworn in your adventures (group of fanatics) as well as the return of the atronochs and such.

The daedras are back as well.

You will see them in time...
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