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On February 14 2012 01:28 Baobab wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 00:38 Rednaxela_19 wrote:No offense to those who are really excited for this game... but I thought ME2 was a total disaster. And I don't actually anticipate this one as being much better. And this is from a guy who pre-ordered the limited edition ME2 game and played it through in about 3 days because I was so excited. Then after the game was over, I thought about how they just polished it to play like a glorified third-person-shooter. The whole RPG element was all but destroyed. Plus, to top it off, I wasn't really able to get into the soundtrack like I was with the first one. No more 'presidium' anymore  Either way, I feel like Bioware has thrown away alot of traditional RPG elements to make their games more accessible to the more casual gamer. It's not like I blame them for that. It's just that I can't get into a game that says its an rpg and doesn't really deliver at all in that aspect anymore. I think a lot of it has to do with which one you played first. I played 2 first, and when I got around to playing the original, I didn't enjoy it all that much. Long boring Mako rides, campaign even shorter than ME2, feel like I barely talked to the characters at all, and the inventory/point allocation system was also pretty lackluster imo. On the other hand, I absolutely love the combat in ME2, even if it could be a little harder. Have you tried playing as a Vanguard? So fun. I consider myself a pretty hardcore gamer as well, so I wouldn't just write it off as "pandering to casuals". Anyways, it's a matter of personal preference I guess. On a different tangent, does anyone know if it's possible to pre-order this from Korea? Damn it Origin, y u no take my money? >.<
I do agree with the long mako rides being boring, and the inventory system being hard to navigate, etc. But I disagree with the campaign being shorter in one than it was in two... I definitely sunk around 30-40-ish hours for my first campaign in one, but even though I explored every planet in ME2, I only got around 25 hours of game play. I agree the combat was more streamlined and less lanky and awkward, but I just don't see that taking priority over good story and rpg feel. In the second it was just 'collect your do0ds, suicide mission mannn!' and I didn't really detect any other plot twists or turns. And one of my main complaints was the lack of memorable music. I loved the music wandering around in the presidium, and finally becoming a spectre... etc. But there were only a couple of songs I even remembered in two. They just didn't utilize the music in the soundtrack to create more depth for the story. Idk, the second was disappointing enough that I won't go get the third one. Maybe i'll borrow it off a friend, and see what happens then. But honestly, I won't be expecting much, or believing the hype.
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On February 14 2012 01:28 Baobab wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 00:38 Rednaxela_19 wrote:No offense to those who are really excited for this game... but I thought ME2 was a total disaster. And I don't actually anticipate this one as being much better. And this is from a guy who pre-ordered the limited edition ME2 game and played it through in about 3 days because I was so excited. Then after the game was over, I thought about how they just polished it to play like a glorified third-person-shooter. The whole RPG element was all but destroyed. Plus, to top it off, I wasn't really able to get into the soundtrack like I was with the first one. No more 'presidium' anymore Either way, I feel like Bioware has thrown away alot of traditional RPG elements to make their games more accessible to the more casual gamer. It's not like I blame them for that. It's just that I can't get into a game that says its an rpg and doesn't really deliver at all in that aspect anymore. I think a lot of it has to do with which one you played first. I played 2 first, and when I got around to playing the original, I didn't enjoy it all that much. Long boring Mako rides, campaign even shorter than ME2, feel like I barely talked to the characters at all, and the inventory/point allocation system was also pretty lackluster imo. On the other hand, I absolutely love the combat in ME2, even if it could be a little harder. Have you tried playing as a Vanguard? So fun. I consider myself a pretty hardcore gamer as well, so I wouldn't just write it off as "pandering to casuals". Anyways, it's a matter of personal preference I guess. On a different tangent, does anyone know if it's possible to pre-order this from Korea? Damn it Origin, y u no take my money? >.<
There's plenty of online shops around that sell keys. Since Mass Effect 3 doesn't have region locking there shouldn't be a problem with whereever you decide to purchase.
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On February 14 2012 01:28 Baobab wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 00:38 Rednaxela_19 wrote:No offense to those who are really excited for this game... but I thought ME2 was a total disaster. And I don't actually anticipate this one as being much better. And this is from a guy who pre-ordered the limited edition ME2 game and played it through in about 3 days because I was so excited. Then after the game was over, I thought about how they just polished it to play like a glorified third-person-shooter. The whole RPG element was all but destroyed. Plus, to top it off, I wasn't really able to get into the soundtrack like I was with the first one. No more 'presidium' anymore Either way, I feel like Bioware has thrown away alot of traditional RPG elements to make their games more accessible to the more casual gamer. It's not like I blame them for that. It's just that I can't get into a game that says its an rpg and doesn't really deliver at all in that aspect anymore. I think a lot of it has to do with which one you played first. I played 2 first, and when I got around to playing the original, I didn't enjoy it all that much. Long boring Mako rides, campaign even shorter than ME2, feel like I barely talked to the characters at all, and the inventory/point allocation system was also pretty lackluster imo. On the other hand, I absolutely love the combat in ME2, even if it could be a little harder. Have you tried playing as a Vanguard? So fun. I consider myself a pretty hardcore gamer as well, so I wouldn't just write it off as "pandering to casuals". Anyways, it's a matter of personal preference I guess. On a different tangent, does anyone know if it's possible to pre-order this from Korea? Damn it Origin, y u no take my money? >.<
dude it's on origin right now
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On February 14 2012 01:09 ZasZ. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 00:54 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Well, people who still approach Mass Effect as a tradional RPG are gonna be disappointed of course. You gotta take it for what it is. Personally I love the setting, the story, the focus on presentation, the flow of the game, the characters and the fluent combat system.
If I want traditional RPG I replay the old classics because I don't like any of the newer ones anyways. No newer game has come close to the likes of BG2. I can't warm up to Skyrim at all. I liked Skyrim but not because I thought it played like a traditional RPG. If you're trying to get that feeling with today's games, your best bet is The Witcher 2, if you haven't played it already. Everything else is noticeably shallow. I enjoyed ME2, even if they strayed a little too far from the RPG aspect of Mass Effect. From what I've seen, they've done a lot of things right in ME3, and as long as I accept it for what it is I'm planning to enjoy it quite a bit.
not sure if we are on the same page, but when i say classical RPG I think BG2 or even Kotor (1) not The Witcher 1 or 2.
They are great games for sure, which i have enjoyed immensly, but they are certainly different from party based RPGs which is the root of many RPG fans.
On topic, ME has never been a true RPG in that sense, and I'm fine with that. Unlike DA2 they didn't promise anything different than what you got, that being a shooter with some RPG elements.
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people equate rpg to a tactics game, which is not what role playing is about, if anything things like stats etc should be mostly removed the idea of role playing is to become a character and make decisions for that character, thus non linear plots.
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On February 14 2012 08:37 semantics wrote:
people equate rpg to a tactics game, which is not what role playing is about, if anything things like stats etc should be mostly removed the idea of role playing is to become a character and make decisions for that character, thus non linear plots.
becoming the character also means developing it. Which implies stats.
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On February 14 2012 08:55 Skilledblob wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 08:37 semantics wrote:
people equate rpg to a tactics game, which is not what role playing is about, if anything things like stats etc should be mostly removed the idea of role playing is to become a character and make decisions for that character, thus non linear plots. becoming the character also means developing it. Which implies stats.
Yes but stats do not need to be known to the character. Do you quantify yourself in everything? No it's why WoW has some purposely obscured mechanics
On February 14 2012 08:55 Skilledblob wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 08:37 semantics wrote:
people equate rpg to a tactics game, which is not what role playing is about, if anything things like stats etc should be mostly removed the idea of role playing is to become a character and make decisions for that character, thus non linear plots. becoming the character also means developing it. Which implies stats.
http://insomnia.ac/commentary/on_role-playing_games/
http://insomnia.ac/commentary/the_rpg_conundrum/
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Cant wait to see how my previously played characters from ME1 and ME2 will develop on this next version...
I think this is something of great value of the game, the fact it makes you feel somewhat interested in playing again the other previous versions just to make what you feel its the "right" decision for your character.
Now that i think about it... i forgot to talk with conrad verner on ME1... dang!
I wonder, would i have to ride the mako all over those boring planets again to get my story well finished, or maybe just do the secondary mission along with the main ones... i really hated the mako after visiting so many planets... just like the planet scanning/harvesting on ME2.
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On February 14 2012 13:40 Hantak wrote:
Cant wait to see how my previously played characters from ME1 and ME2 will develop on this next version...
I think this is something of great value of the game, the fact it makes you feel somewhat interested in playing again the other previous versions just to make what you feel its the "right" decision for your character.
Now that i think about it... i forgot to talk with conrad verner on ME1... dang!
I wonder, would i have to ride the mako all over those boring planets again to get my story well finished, or maybe just do the secondary mission along with the main ones... i really hated the mako after visiting so many planets... just like the planet scanning/harvesting on ME2.
You can use a save game editor to change the things you forgot to do. Alternatively, you can just look at at the variables being imported so you can know what you have to do and what you can ignore.
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On February 14 2012 14:12 procyonlotor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 13:40 Hantak wrote:
Cant wait to see how my previously played characters from ME1 and ME2 will develop on this next version...
I think this is something of great value of the game, the fact it makes you feel somewhat interested in playing again the other previous versions just to make what you feel its the "right" decision for your character.
Now that i think about it... i forgot to talk with conrad verner on ME1... dang!
I wonder, would i have to ride the mako all over those boring planets again to get my story well finished, or maybe just do the secondary mission along with the main ones... i really hated the mako after visiting so many planets... just like the planet scanning/harvesting on ME2. You can use a save game editor to change the things you forgot to do. Alternatively, you can just look at at the variables being imported so you can know what you have to do and what you can ignore.
O.o
oh nice, i didnt know about that lol, googled a bit and found lots of profiles...
yet, none seems to fit my characters "wish list"...
last time i checked it took me about 50 gameplay hours (i guess replays from "critical mission failure" where not counted) to finish off the 1st ME with all the missions, thats like 2 weeks playing for me :S
ill keep an eye on more characters save files, but im looking for a john shepard, earthborn, sole survivor, soldier, romanced liara, paragon, level 50 or 60, ashley saved (couldnt let her die), wrex alive, paragon garrus, scanned all (green things on the citadel), saved the council, "commando", let the batarrian terrorist go, saved rachni queen, delivered womans body to his husband, let helena blake live told her to get sraight.... i could keep going but im so picky i know ill just have to replay the whole thing :S if i wasnt that way i wouldnt have visited every planet till i started hating the mako and such...
Thank you again for the tip 
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On February 14 2012 15:48 Hantak wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 14:12 procyonlotor wrote:On February 14 2012 13:40 Hantak wrote:
Cant wait to see how my previously played characters from ME1 and ME2 will develop on this next version...
I think this is something of great value of the game, the fact it makes you feel somewhat interested in playing again the other previous versions just to make what you feel its the "right" decision for your character.
Now that i think about it... i forgot to talk with conrad verner on ME1... dang!
I wonder, would i have to ride the mako all over those boring planets again to get my story well finished, or maybe just do the secondary mission along with the main ones... i really hated the mako after visiting so many planets... just like the planet scanning/harvesting on ME2. You can use a save game editor to change the things you forgot to do. Alternatively, you can just look at at the variables being imported so you can know what you have to do and what you can ignore. O.o oh nice, i didnt know about that lol, googled a bit and found lots of profiles... yet, none seems to fit my characters "wish list"... last time i checked it took me about 50 gameplay hours (i guess replays from "critical mission failure" where not counted) to finish off the 1st ME with all the missions, thats like 2 weeks playing for me :S ill keep an eye on more characters save files, but im looking for a john shepard, earthborn, sole survivor, soldier, romanced liara, paragon, level 50 or 60, ashley saved (couldnt let her die), wrex alive, paragon garrus, scanned all (green things on the citadel), saved the council, "commando", let the batarrian terrorist go, saved rachni queen, delivered womans body to his husband, let helena blake live told her to get sraight.... i could keep going but im so picky i know ill just have to replay the whole thing :S if i wasnt that way i wouldnt have visited every planet till i started hating the mako and such... Thank you again for the tip
Actually I was referring to this.
http://www.masseffectsaves.com/tools.php
With this tool you can directly alter save games.
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Going to need you guys' help on this one.
I bought ME2 for PS3 when it came out last january. Played with no knowledge at all of the franchise, used no walkthroughs, took every decision from a gut feeling, did all the important side mission, bought all the ship upgrades, was about 2 thirds of the time paragon and 1 third of the time renegade, and managed to save all the crew in the last mission ! Long story short, I really loved my Sheppard in that game.
Now I have a dilemma since I today I have a gaming PC that can run ME3 at the highest settings. I could buy ME3 for PS3 to get my Sheppard going, but at the same time I always preferred to game on PC. Also there is the additional fact that there is multiplayer, which I find would be better on PC, mainly because of the controls and that I know more people that will play on PC then PS3.
I would really love to have my exact same Sheppard to keep going in ME3... but that is the only reason to buy it on PS3. PC wins on all the other aspects.
I just saw procyonlotor's post that talks about loading other people saved games... is there a way you can edit a ME2 saved game for it to be the way you want it when you launch ME3 ? I don't know what version to buy
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On February 15 2012 03:50 PizzaParty wrote:Going to need you guys' help on this one. I bought ME2 for PS3 when it came out last january. Played with no knowledge at all of the franchise, used no walkthroughs, took every decision from a gut feeling, did all the important side mission, bought all the ship upgrades, was about 2 thirds of the time paragon and 1 third of the time renegade, and managed to save all the crew in the last mission ! Long story short, I really loved my Sheppard in that game. Now I have a dilemma since I today I have a gaming PC that can run ME3 at the highest settings. I could buy ME3 for PS3 to get my Sheppard going, but at the same time I always preferred to game on PC. Also there is the additional fact that there is multiplayer, which I find would be better on PC, mainly because of the controls and that I know more people that will play on PC then PS3. I would really love to have my exact same Sheppard to keep going in ME3... but that is the only reason to buy it on PS3. PC wins on all the other aspects. I just saw procyonlotor's post that talks about loading other people saved games... is there a way you can edit a ME2 saved game for it to be the way you want it when you launch ME3 ? I don't know what version to buy
Pretty sure you can edit a save file to your preference with gibbed's save file editor (google it). Not entirely sure though. If not, get it on PC and play it all the way from ME1 (15 euro on steam and probably cheaper retail). :D
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On February 15 2012 03:50 PizzaParty wrote:Going to need you guys' help on this one. I bought ME2 for PS3 when it came out last january. Played with no knowledge at all of the franchise, used no walkthroughs, took every decision from a gut feeling, did all the important side mission, bought all the ship upgrades, was about 2 thirds of the time paragon and 1 third of the time renegade, and managed to save all the crew in the last mission ! Long story short, I really loved my Sheppard in that game. Now I have a dilemma since I today I have a gaming PC that can run ME3 at the highest settings. I could buy ME3 for PS3 to get my Sheppard going, but at the same time I always preferred to game on PC. Also there is the additional fact that there is multiplayer, which I find would be better on PC, mainly because of the controls and that I know more people that will play on PC then PS3. I would really love to have my exact same Sheppard to keep going in ME3... but that is the only reason to buy it on PS3. PC wins on all the other aspects. I just saw procyonlotor's post that talks about loading other people saved games... is there a way you can edit a ME2 saved game for it to be the way you want it when you launch ME3 ? I don't know what version to buy
AFAIK there are savegame editors for the PC version, just search on google. Or you can play all your way through ME1. Personally as I have a past of semi competitive UT99 and i'm pretty decent in shooters because of that I can't imagine me playing shooters on anything rather than PC.
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Demo is out. Requires Origin. Nope.
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On February 15 2012 03:50 PizzaParty wrote:Going to need you guys' help on this one. I bought ME2 for PS3 when it came out last january. Played with no knowledge at all of the franchise, used no walkthroughs, took every decision from a gut feeling, did all the important side mission, bought all the ship upgrades, was about 2 thirds of the time paragon and 1 third of the time renegade, and managed to save all the crew in the last mission ! Long story short, I really loved my Sheppard in that game. Now I have a dilemma since I today I have a gaming PC that can run ME3 at the highest settings. I could buy ME3 for PS3 to get my Sheppard going, but at the same time I always preferred to game on PC. Also there is the additional fact that there is multiplayer, which I find would be better on PC, mainly because of the controls and that I know more people that will play on PC then PS3. I would really love to have my exact same Sheppard to keep going in ME3... but that is the only reason to buy it on PS3. PC wins on all the other aspects. I just saw procyonlotor's post that talks about loading other people saved games... is there a way you can edit a ME2 saved game for it to be the way you want it when you launch ME3 ? I don't know what version to buy
look two posts above you buddy ^^
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On February 15 2012 04:20 valaki wrote:
Demo is out. Requires Origin. Nope.
Post is out. Requires content? Nope.
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On February 15 2012 04:20 valaki wrote:
Demo is out. Requires Origin. Nope.
Whats the point of posting origin sucks? We all knew this was going to require origin, take it or leave it.
Anyhow anyone tried the demo yet?
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