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AntiGrav1ty
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atmospheric
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Skilledblob
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atmospheric
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Rednaxela_19
United States150 Posts
 Either way, I feel like Bioware has thrown away alot of traditional RPG elements to make their games more accessible to the more casual gamer. It's not like I blame them for that. It's just that I can't get into a game that says its an rpg and doesn't really deliver at all in that aspect anymore. | ||
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Duka08
3391 Posts
Hopefully there is more RPG and the world feels bigger. That was my main problem; similar to the Citadel being gimped there were many fewer "large, open" feeling environments to enjoy like the Presidium. Everything was in cramped hallways and metallic paintball arenas. | ||
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atmospheric
Austria49 Posts
On February 14 2012 00:38 Rednaxela_19 wrote: No offense to those who are really excited for this game... but I thought ME2 was a total disaster. And I don't actually anticipate this one as being much better. And this is from a guy who pre-ordered the limited edition ME2 game and played it through in about 3 days because I was so excited. Then after the game was over, I thought about how they just polished it to play like a glorified third-person-shooter. The whole RPG element was all but destroyed. Plus, to top it off, I wasn't really able to get into the soundtrack like I was with the first one. No more 'presidium' anymore Either way, I feel like Bioware has thrown away alot of traditional RPG elements to make their games more accessible to the more casual gamer. It's not like I blame them for that. It's just that I can't get into a game that says its an rpg and doesn't really deliver at all in that aspect anymore. I totally agree. they reduced mass effect to a cover-based shooter with some dialogue sequencees. a BORING cover-based shooter. | ||
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
If I want traditional RPG I replay the old classics because I don't like any of the newer ones anyways. No newer game has come close to the likes of BG2. I can't warm up to Skyrim at all. | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On February 14 2012 00:54 AntiGrav1ty wrote: Well, people who still approach Mass Effect as a tradional RPG are gonna be disappointed of course. You gotta take it for what it is. Personally I love the setting, the story, the focus on presentation, the flow of the game, the characters and the fluent combat system. If I want traditional RPG I replay the old classics because I don't like any of the newer ones anyways. No newer game has come close to the likes of BG2. I can't warm up to Skyrim at all. I liked Skyrim but not because I thought it played like a traditional RPG. If you're trying to get that feeling with today's games, your best bet is The Witcher 2, if you haven't played it already. Everything else is noticeably shallow. I enjoyed ME2, even if they strayed a little too far from the RPG aspect of Mass Effect. From what I've seen, they've done a lot of things right in ME3, and as long as I accept it for what it is I'm planning to enjoy it quite a bit. | ||
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Deleted User 135096
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On February 14 2012 00:38 Rednaxela_19 wrote: No offense to those who are really excited for this game... but I thought ME2 was a total disaster. And I don't actually anticipate this one as being much better. And this is from a guy who pre-ordered the limited edition ME2 game and played it through in about 3 days because I was so excited. Then after the game was over, I thought about how they just polished it to play like a glorified third-person-shooter. The whole RPG element was all but destroyed. Plus, to top it off, I wasn't really able to get into the soundtrack like I was with the first one. No more 'presidium' anymore Either way, I feel like Bioware has thrown away alot of traditional RPG elements to make their games more accessible to the more casual gamer. It's not like I blame them for that. It's just that I can't get into a game that says its an rpg and doesn't really deliver at all in that aspect anymore. I'll agree with some of your feelings about the lack of more RPG-ness in ME2, but lets be honest here, ME1 was already a glorified cover based 3rd person shooter, with a heavy RPG element, a worse combat system, but a more robust customizable inventory system, oh and let's not forget the Mako (needs more love, lol). I think you need to pay more heed that this wasn't ever supposed to be an RPG in the first place, it's always been a hybrid genre, though the first installment was a little less FPS like. For instance, take for example Dragon Age:Origins, which was a great game imo. Then they decided that because of the success of ME1-2 that they would try to streamline an actual RPG into an action-RPG style, which gutted the core element of the game. I honestly think that if you approached Mass Effect as an RPG you automatically sell yourself short because it never was an RPG. And yes I am very excited for ME3, and also very excited for the return of weapon customization as well. | ||
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
On February 14 2012 01:09 ZasZ. wrote: I liked Skyrim but not because I thought it played like a traditional RPG. If you're trying to get that feeling with today's games, your best bet is The Witcher 2, if you haven't played it already. Everything else is noticeably shallow. I enjoyed ME2, even if they strayed a little too far from the RPG aspect of Mass Effect. From what I've seen, they've done a lot of things right in ME3, and as long as I accept it for what it is I'm planning to enjoy it quite a bit. Heard a lot of good stuff about Witcher 2 and started it but the combat system is horrible. It kinda ruined the game for me right from the start. | ||
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Baobab
Korea (South)153 Posts
On February 14 2012 00:38 Rednaxela_19 wrote: No offense to those who are really excited for this game... but I thought ME2 was a total disaster. And I don't actually anticipate this one as being much better. And this is from a guy who pre-ordered the limited edition ME2 game and played it through in about 3 days because I was so excited. Then after the game was over, I thought about how they just polished it to play like a glorified third-person-shooter. The whole RPG element was all but destroyed. Plus, to top it off, I wasn't really able to get into the soundtrack like I was with the first one. No more 'presidium' anymore Either way, I feel like Bioware has thrown away alot of traditional RPG elements to make their games more accessible to the more casual gamer. It's not like I blame them for that. It's just that I can't get into a game that says its an rpg and doesn't really deliver at all in that aspect anymore. I think a lot of it has to do with which one you played first. I played 2 first, and when I got around to playing the original, I didn't enjoy it all that much. Long boring Mako rides, campaign even shorter than ME2, feel like I barely talked to the characters at all, and the inventory/point allocation system was also pretty lackluster imo. On the other hand, I absolutely love the combat in ME2, even if it could be a little harder. Have you tried playing as a Vanguard? So fun. I consider myself a pretty hardcore gamer as well, so I wouldn't just write it off as "pandering to casuals". Anyways, it's a matter of personal preference I guess. On a different tangent, does anyone know if it's possible to pre-order this from Korea? Damn it Origin, y u no take my money? >.< | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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puppykiller
United States3137 Posts
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procyonlotor
Italy473 Posts
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Tarias
Netherlands480 Posts
I don't think it's fair comparing the ME series to things like BG and NWN just because it was never intended to be that kind of RPG. When ME1 released people already complained that it was just a third person shooter with a Bioware story, ME2 just separated itself from traditional RPGs even more. I feel like this is what makes the series stand out though, and it's a big part of why I love it. When I played ME1 it wasn't the skill point system or the loot that made me enjoy the game, it were the characters and the story. ME2 made the combat more action oriented, and took out alot of the skill and inventory management, which increased the immersion, for me at least. | ||
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dismiss
United Kingdom3341 Posts
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
After ME1 i wished they would improve those things for ME2 but instead they just scratched a lot of it and I have to say that I enjoyed playing ME2 even more. I heard many people say that ME2 is for casual gamers and that its short and simple cover and shoot etc pp. Have you played it on hardcore or insanity? Pretty demanding if you ask me. Playing Vanguard on insanity is a son of a bitch. They just made the "normal" difficulty way to easy. That should be the casual mode and veteran should be normal. | ||
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OptimusYale
Korea (South)1005 Posts
On February 14 2012 01:28 Baobab wrote: I think a lot of it has to do with which one you played first. I played 2 first, and when I got around to playing the original, I didn't enjoy it all that much. Long boring Mako rides, campaign even shorter than ME2, feel like I barely talked to the characters at all, and the inventory/point allocation system was also pretty lackluster imo. On the other hand, I absolutely love the combat in ME2, even if it could be a little harder. Have you tried playing as a Vanguard? So fun. I consider myself a pretty hardcore gamer as well, so I wouldn't just write it off as "pandering to casuals". Anyways, it's a matter of personal preference I guess. On a different tangent, does anyone know if it's possible to pre-order this from Korea? Damn it Origin, y u no take my money? >.< get down to yongsan and I'm sure you'll be able to buy it. If not that there will be some places around itaewon that will sell it | ||
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