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There is no such thing as a turn-based RTS. RTS stands for "real time strategy."
There's another genre called TBS or "turn based strategy." Games under this category include titles such as Civilization, Chess, Final Fantasy Tactics, and pretty much any other game that has "Tactics" at the end of their name.
Two games I know of that have a pretty small APM requirement. First being Total War. There's no unit building within the battles (you do that in that campaign map) and what makes you win the battle is the positioning of your troops and when to attack. Fun game, but I personally dont like the AI imo.
Second game I really enjoyed was Company of Heroes. There's only a handful of people left that play the game but it's pretty fun. This is less of an economy game and focuses more on composition of units and positioning.
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SC2 definately the game you're looking for or maybe RUSE or the total war series.
As far as cool turn based ones there are of course one that comes in mind ,Heroes of might and magic 3 :D
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On November 21 2010 02:45 valug wrote:
I played Company of Heroes before Starcraft 2, it has a much smaller emphasis on micro/macro, but with a much bigger emphasis on positioning and strategy.
The community for it is much smaller then Starcraft however and the game was broken for periods of time due to extended periods between balance patches, I'm not sure on its current state.
I also played Company of Heroes (CoH) in between SC:BW and SC2. IMO, not as fun as SC, but it is still one of the better ones out there. 50 amp is all you need to be good, and I lose a lot to my 35 amp friends.
Balance... is as valug says. The wervmacht vs american battle is the closest thing to SC:BW ZvT that I have come across, however the patches often mess up the balance, and the other races just suck.
Worth a try. You can probably get the complete CoH pack with both expansions for around $25 (depending on the Steam sale price of course.)
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On November 21 2010 03:22 IcyPringle wrote:
SC2? I have 50 apm average and I'm 1800+ diamond ez, I mean how much apm are we talking here?
I think single digit. Because 50 sounds huge to this guy.. And what race do you play?
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Any RTS you play at a high level will pretty much require faster fingers, so I think you should just look at a turn based lineup. Turn based strategies focus on many of the same things that SC does, econ, teching, harrassement, scouting, but usually have an added element (such as diplomacy for mutual benefits). Also being turn based the apm requirement can be literally less than one if you want it to be.
Though I think in Civ and a few others like Sword of the Stars there is the option for timered turns so having some speed can make you more successful than other players.
I'll just suggest SotS I guess, it has a grand overview mode and then tactical combat during fleet engagements.
Or you could play AI Wars, but I think that is co-op only in multiplayer.
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On November 21 2010 03:28 Meatloaf wrote:
RUSE
nice RTS with lowest APM requirement at the moment.
and it makes you feel like a general hahahah
I found that game deeply, horribly confusing. I literally had no idea what was going on at any point.
@OP
Heroes of Might and Magic 3 is turn based! It's awesome AND nostalgia inducing.
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Company of heroes like has been stated before is probably just what you are looking for, low apm requirements, very little macro and micro (though it's still there to a small extent) and most emphasis on tactics and strategy. + it's really really fun but i remember it being pretty unbalanced, but if u're not a super competitive player you should be able to have fun anyway.
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Total War isn't RTS either.
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Total War isn't RTS. CoH arguably isn't RTS either.
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On November 21 2010 04:27 Almeisan wrote:
Total War isn't RTS. CoH arguably isn't RTS either.
I could see you make an argument for Total war not being an RTS, but there is no way you could convince anyone not dumb as fuck that CoH isn't an RTS....
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Endwar has voice commands. SC2 should have that to make a better esport
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SupCom 2 you can order a thousand tanks before you have the money. SC2 is busy work.
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If you're looking for a free alternative, you may want to give Spring a try. It's an open-source engine that is mostly used to play a revamped and rebalanced version of Total Annihilation. I personally find it more relaxing to play than Starcraft 2 since it usually requires less micro to win.
Of course, I agree with the concept that more APM will generally lead to better play (if your APM is constructive APM). I also believe that Starcraft 2 has one of the largest playerbases of any RTS. Putting these two ideas together, you're going to get a game that requires a higher APM in order to make it to the top. If you want an RTS with a lower APM requirement, you're going to want a game with a smaller playerbase, which leads to less competition, and therefore, less skill to be considered "good." Spring excels on this point, so I think you should give it a try, especially since it's free.
Here it is if you're interested.
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On November 21 2010 03:28 Meatloaf wrote:
RUSE
nice RTS with lowest APM requirement at the moment.
and it makes you feel like a general hahahah
I would say anything from Paradox Interactive has lowest APM requirements.
It is very unlike common RTSes though.
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Hmmm, you might find playing Jagged Alliance 2 entertaining... It's turn based and HIGHLY addictive. I don't think I played any game as much as JA2...
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warhammer? my roommate loves that game.
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Some of the turn-based strategy classics are:
- Heroes of Might&Magic(recommend 3)
- Disciples 1/2/3
-Etherlords
King's bounty has fancy new graphics and is basically HOMM.
There's also some game named "Sins of Solar Empire" it's more about resource management, isn't that apm intense and it's quite fun. Give it a try, it's similiar to civilizations/master of orion, oh and yea it has awesome space battles!
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Chess online is really nice. Really. A lot of strategy/''build-orders''. Posibilities are endless 
I used to play chess and it really is just like Starcraft, minus the apm (Unless you do it clocked).
Bonus: The pro community consists out of gentlemen
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This wasn't meant to post, sorry 
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