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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
March 06 2015 15:59 GMT
#11921
Any Standard events this weekend?
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
March 06 2015 16:12 GMT
#11922
On March 07 2015 00:59 Doodsmack wrote:
Any Standard events this weekend?


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Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
March 22 2015 05:54 GMT
#11923
How did everyone do at prerelease? Went 1-3 with a crappy pool at midnight prerelease. Dice game was really easy though and I suppose this is karma for pulling Ugin in my prerelease box and promo Ugin at the end of Fate Prerelease.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 22 2015 06:16 GMT
#11924
Will probably do a report after I lose horribly tomorrow.
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
March 22 2015 06:54 GMT
#11925
3-1 with random red and green creatures of dubious quality. Turns out the 5/5 for 3 is actually really good when you have a ton of Ferocity or w/e that mechanic is.
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
March 22 2015 07:23 GMT
#11926
Went 3-1. Got unlucky with mana in the first match but won the next three in the row.

I chose Ojutai but my pool wasn't really that good for the first four packs. But then my last Dragons of Tarkir pack had a Sarkhan and my Fate Reforged pack had an Ugin and a red/green fetch. So I kinda just looked at that and was like, well I guess I'm playing red/blue/green haha.
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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
March 23 2015 04:39 GMT
#11927
How on earth are you supposed to get cards for competitive events the day after the new set comes out?
I've been calling a few LGS but none of them let me preorder cards
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
March 23 2015 04:49 GMT
#11928
Second prerelease attempt today, finished 3-1 and third place. Actually got to play the Atarka colors I picked this time instead of a crappy Dromoka deck, but I ran both spirit dragon lands from fate and DTK to run 1 arashin sovereign. Yay. And I'm almost halfway to finishing the dragon standard deck I've been working on.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
March 23 2015 05:19 GMT
#11929
1-4 for prerelease dear God I suck so horrendously at sealed hahaha. But on the plus side I got a promo Anafenza, Flooded Strand, Dragonlord Atarka and Narset so it was whatever, gogo lucky pulls

On March 23 2015 13:49 Wingblade wrote:
Second prerelease attempt today, finished 3-1 and third place. Actually got to play the Atarka colors I picked this time instead of a crappy Dromoka deck, but I ran both spirit dragon lands from fate and DTK to run 1 arashin sovereign. Yay. And I'm almost halfway to finishing the dragon standard deck I've been working on.

I tried running Dromoka and it felt just all bad. Meanwhile mass dash seemed to stomp over everyone at our event.
Sup.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 23 2015 05:20 GMT
#11930
Thought about doing a full write-up, but now I'm tired so I'll do a bigger one with card links and shit anyone has any real interest in it.
Short version:
Did better than expected with the mediocre pool I got.
Only dragon I got was the U/B uncommon, and my rares were absolutely godawful. Ended up with 2x Silumgar Assassin which worked really well in my deck but nothing particularly bomby or valuable overall.

Medium version:+ Show Spoiler +

Match 1 - Went up against a guy who claimed he had a shit pool, and played W/B/G for some reason. Very clearly worse than me at the game---even I was able to help him out with some rules and stuff during the game. Felt real bad for him when he had to mull to 5 game 1 and 4 game 2, but then we played for fun after and I still trashed him. Also turns out his 'shit pool' contained a fucking Ojutai's Command and Narset Transcendant.

Match 2 - Level 1 judge. He told me that and I assumed it was gg already. Actually ended up dispatching him with relative ease surprisingly. He played Kolaghan (B/R) aggro but my removal was no match for his dash. (bwahaha) Something interesting during the match though: at one point he attacked me with a 2/5 deathtouch, I blocked with a 2/2 and gave it +3/0 and regenerate. He told me my guy dies anyway, so I was like wtf, and we called over the level 2 judge. Turns out I was right and my guy doesn't die, but my opponent said that apparently it used to be a thing that deathtouch and damage could kill my guy twice thereby negating the regenerate? Was that ever really a thing?

Match 3 - Epic fucking games. A ridiculous bolster deck was what I was up against this time. I took game one, and he took game 2. Game 3 took like 30 min with 80 bolster guys and +1/+1 counters flying all over the place. He had two of the rare Dromoka dragons (W/G and W) AND Daghatar, so ultimately when I lost I wasn't surprised that he ended up 4-0.

Match 4 - The only real blowout. Played against a better Silumgar deck than mine. He actually splashed red just for Bathe in Dragonfire and was able to bring it back multiple times with a 3/2 Megamorph card that lets him return noncreature spells to his hand. I also got greedy game 2 with a 2-land hand and suffered a little for it by missing a couple drops.

Was only supposed to win 2 packs for a 2-2 but the guy giving them out when I was leaving gave a few people ahead of me with the same record 4 by accident, realized it, and the guy I had just played against told the guy behind the counter he had to do the same for me. So a bunch of free packs when I was expecting nothing! Managed to get slightly better value from the bonus packs---a Zurgo Bellstriker and Dromoka's Command were probably the best.

Overall impressions:
Yeah, I impressed myself. (Either that or maybe the competition wasn't as ridiculous as I expected.) Very few misplays and when I did it was already pretty much beyond the point of comeback.

Stuff I learned: I like U/B control . Exploit is a very solid mechanic, and the synergy built in with the various sacrifices is awesome. Ukud Cobra is batshit crazy.

Decklist:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/silumgaaaarrrr/
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Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
March 23 2015 05:36 GMT
#11931
On March 23 2015 14:19 dudeman001 wrote:
1-4 for prerelease dear God I suck so horrendously at sealed hahaha. But on the plus side I got a promo Anafenza, Flooded Strand, Dragonlord Atarka and Narset so it was whatever, gogo lucky pulls

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On March 23 2015 13:49 Wingblade wrote:
Second prerelease attempt today, finished 3-1 and third place. Actually got to play the Atarka colors I picked this time instead of a crappy Dromoka deck, but I ran both spirit dragon lands from fate and DTK to run 1 arashin sovereign. Yay. And I'm almost halfway to finishing the dragon standard deck I've been working on.

I tried running Dromoka and it felt just all bad. Meanwhile mass dash seemed to stomp over everyone at our event.


My Dromoka deck was made even worse by the fact that I picked Atarka for that prerelease too... There must have been some really strong Kolaghan pools then. My LGS didn't have hardly anyone going Kolaghan. I got stomped hard today by an insane Silumgar deck.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
March 26 2015 18:46 GMT
#11932
Not sure if anyone else has seen this, but my friend showed this to me last week and I thought it was hilarious (we're all a modern-group made up of blue/control mages so obviously we're less than thrilled with how the format has been shaped...so note the irony for us lol).

Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
March 26 2015 19:36 GMT
#11933
oh yea i saw that a few weeks ago. shit is hilarious
Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-26 20:01:47
March 26 2015 19:59 GMT
#11934
Actually I think Jace would have been a safe unban if Bloodbraid Elf was still in the format... you could never tap out for him as he dies to a lot of potential BBE outcomes. Even now, the aggro decks in modern are low-curve enough to have threats on the table before Jace comes down, and the combo decks don't really care about him. There's also a ton of burn flying around.

Or any sort of decent library manipulation/draw would be nice... they gave us TC/DTT and then immediately banned them. I'm pretty sure we could get Ponder, Preordain, or Ancestral Visions without breaking anything. But then again, maybe not. Combo is still alive, and we all know Wizards hates combo and wants it to be kind of weak in modern.
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
March 26 2015 20:14 GMT
#11935
is mana leak back in standard yet? That's one of the primary reasons i left standard, and soon left playing mtg due to wizards' changes in design philosophy (i would start playing again if that card was back).
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
March 26 2015 20:26 GMT
#11936
I dont think Ancestral Visions would be too bad.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-26 23:57:45
March 26 2015 23:54 GMT
#11937
On March 27 2015 05:26 Whole wrote:
I dont think Ancestral Visions would be too bad.


Nope, no way, that card is stupidly good. Turn 1 Visions is pretty strong and very mana efficient.

Also Mana Leak isn't coming back in standard, Wizards is on record saying that they don't think they would print that card in today's game.

Personally I think the concept is fine in control decks, but stupidly awful in tempo decks where it functions effectively as counterspell most of the time.
Get it by your hands...
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-27 00:48:16
March 27 2015 00:47 GMT
#11938
Regarding Modern, the problematic issue is somewhat that Wizards doesn't really test for anything apart from Standard in FFL. And that leads to a lot of inconsistencies such as the fact they banned Bloodbriad Elf for just being a really efficient creature that all Jund decks played (that's literally the reason they gave). However, in Tarkir along comes Siege Rhino which is a 4-drop just like BBE but has better stats, Trample, and comes with a free Lighting Helix so it's a free card like Cascasde is. Which seems... massively counter-intuitive? The colour restrictions on Rhino are really not an issue as mana is really good in Modern, and most GBx decks moved to White a long time ago because of stuff like Lingering Souls.

There is also the odd amusement that Standard is now the most powerful format because it's the only place you can play 4x Treasure Cruise (banned in Modern + Legacy, and restricted in Vintage). Or that they printed Tasigur after saying that GBx was a problem in Modern since it had too many efficient cards and card advantage engines. But that's a discussion for another time...

The knock-on effect from the fact that GBx is the yardstick that all other decks are measured against is that it encourages very linear deck building. (Especially since the power of something like Thoughtseize is not that it trades 1-for-1 but that it trades for your best card, and gives the other player perfect information.) Having your hand shredded before being made to deal with efficient creatures doesn't matter too much if: (1) all the cards in your deck essentially do the same thing anyway and don't care about 1-for-1 (such as Burn) or (2) go over the top so 1-for-1 and top-decks don't matter (such as Amulet, or Twin) or (3) have so much raw or virtual card advantage and card selection it doesn't matter (Tron maybe?). Which has not exactly been great for diversity if you use the "12% of the format" metric Wizards uses (I think it's 12%?).

I don't really have a conclusion here since I don't actually know what would help the format and this was a stream of consciousness anyway.

On the topic of Jace, the Wallet Sculptor (although Liliana of the Veil is becoming more expensive now...) I'm tempted to say it's not the end-all-be-all in Modern? Like, at 3 loyalty you're somewhat forced to immediately +2 in a lot of matchups or risk playing a very expensive Sorcery speed Brainstorm given the number of Lightning Bolts flying around. It competes with Cryptic Command in the 4-drop slot for a lot of decks. It's probably also dead in a few matchups. Like, I can't see Jace mattering against say Burn or something. Against Twin tapping out Turn 4 is asking to lose. Although it is one of the best bombs you can play, and it's the ultimate top-deck card. Still, I can understand if WotC wants to keep this banned since it is a really, really good card.
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DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-29 16:42:41
March 29 2015 16:23 GMT
#11939
On March 27 2015 08:54 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2015 05:26 Whole wrote:
I dont think Ancestral Visions would be too bad.


Nope, no way, that card is stupidly good. Turn 1 Visions is pretty strong and very mana efficient.



So a card that IF played turn 1 is "pretty strong and very mana efficient" is too good for modern? That's the definition of pretty much every 1-drop played in the format. Many games will just be over before it becomes unsuspended. That or you will be far behind since you spent your first turn and a card doing nothing. The cards eventually drawn MIGHT be able to get you back in the game but it is definitely a risk. It's a good card but not ban-worthy compared to the other insane cards in modern.

Preordain and Ponder on the other hand definitely ban-worthy as they make combo decks insanely consistent, and they are already consistent enough.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 30 2015 12:57 GMT
#11940
Unbanning blue cards in Modern is a stupid idea, and I played Blue decks for a year.

What won the last PT ? A blue deck. The last GP ? A blue deck. Blue is in a fine state.

Meanwhile, I'll be casting some Life from the Loam as I like drawing 3 cards a turn a bit too much...
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