EPTOn another note, Modern is pretty fucking uninteresting at the moment. I still don't get why they banned Cruise/Dig/Pod...
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On another note, Modern is pretty fucking uninteresting at the moment. I still don't get why they banned Cruise/Dig/Pod... | ||
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las91
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On February 27 2015 00:05 mr_tolkien wrote: I have no idea what you're trying to say. Core sets have rotated out of Standard at the same time as block for years. On another note, Modern is pretty fucking uninteresting at the moment. I still don't get why they banned Cruise/Dig/Pod... Lol, I don't understand why Wizards decided to go with a very weak version of what YuGiOh has been doing since their format split, a rotating ban list, with a semi-eternal format. The preemptive bannings were umm a bit hasty especially since Wizards has shown that they aren't always right with their predictions on how the format would play out. Core Sets hasn't been great for a while now, people like to look at M10 as a turning point for core sets, while true, the benchmark was pretty low. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
Core Sets hasn't been great for a while now I tend to disagree. Power-level wise, M15 was pretty high compared to the rest of the THS block. They printed very strong new cards, like Rabblemaster and Stoke the flames, which have been format defining since then. Hushing Gryff and the new Garruk also see a decent share of play, and that's not accounting for the two big reprints (Chord and Urborg). The limited environment was atrocious though, who the fuck decided to put triplicate spirits at common ? | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On February 27 2015 19:39 mr_tolkien wrote: I tend to disagree. Power-level wise, M15 was pretty high compared to the rest of the THS block. They printed very strong new cards, like Rabblemaster and Stoke the flames, which have been format defining since then. Hushing Gryff and the new Garruk also see a decent share of play, and that's not accounting for the two big reprints (Chord and Urborg). The limited environment was atrocious though, who the fuck decided to put triplicate spirits at common ? The thing is though why need to print core set for just those cards? | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On February 28 2015 00:34 Judicator wrote: The thing is though why need to print core set for just those cards? Core Sets are not meant to print "Those Cards" Core Sets are supposed to represent the Core aspects of each color, absent of the general storyline. You expect color X to be able to do Y in set Z because that's what the color does in the Core Set. But somewhere after 9th edition they stopped that practice. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On February 28 2015 00:42 Thieving Magpie wrote: Core Sets are not meant to print "Those Cards" Core Sets are supposed to represent the Core aspects of each color, absent of the general storyline. You expect color X to be able to do Y in set Z because that's what the color does in the Core Set. But somewhere after 9th edition they stopped that practice. They stopped the storyline business a while ago though didn't they? My point was that is core set really necessary in the first place (even after m10)? | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On February 28 2015 01:06 Judicator wrote: They stopped the storyline business a while ago though didn't they? My point was that is core set really necessary in the first place (even after m10)? The initial intention I thought was to make it so that most people's cards remained somewhat relevant from standard season to standard season. So you find have to put disenchant, or dark ritual, or divination each set. Just have the core set of all the normal cards of each color so that you don't have to make sideboard cards in the sets. However, wizards of the coast have gotten very good at designing base sets to be more complete as well as more defining of what each color means. The core sets reason for existing has stopped existing for a long while now. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On February 28 2015 05:10 Thieving Magpie wrote: The initial intention I thought was to make it so that most people's cards remained somewhat relevant from standard season to standard season. So you find have to put disenchant, or dark ritual, or divination each set. Just have the core set of all the normal cards of each color so that you don't have to make sideboard cards in the sets. However, wizards of the coast have gotten very good at designing base sets to be more complete as well as more defining of what each color means. The core sets reason for existing has stopped existing for a long while now. I know that, which is why I posed that question? | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On February 28 2015 05:24 Judicator wrote: I know that, which is why I posed that question? Because ineffectiveness of implementation does not contradict that act of intention? Just because *we* think its a bad idea does not mean the reasons for the idea has changed from its initial conception. And being that Wizards is changing up their set production timelines, they do think that things have to change. | ||
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
Was the first time I've ever played the deck. Felt really good. Luckily myself and 2 other in my play group made it to top 8 as well. Sadly I lost in the Round of 8 vs RW tokens which i beat 2 times in the swiss. Went 2-1 vs Mardu, 2-0 vs UB, 0-2 vs UB, 2-1 vs RW, 2-1 vs Jeskai, 2-1 vs Sultai Control(oldschool with Sphinx), 2-1 vs Mardu, and 2-1 vs RW before drawing vs my friend who was playing Abzan to make top 8. The deck felt like it had so much reach. There were 2-3 games where I was like there's almost zero way I win this game and just rip burn off the top for the win. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On March 02 2015 18:57 mr_tolkien wrote: Core sets were meant for newer player, to have an easy access into the game. Starting drafting at the end of a bloc (3 editions to know) is pretty daunting. Core sets remove that problem by being standalones with few mechanics. Technically, core sets were just the extension of Unlimited, which was the extension of Alpha and Beta, which were just the reprinting of "core cards" that defined each color. Alpha, Beta, Unlimited, Revised, 4rth edition (Ever wonder why there's no 3rd edition?), 5th, 6th, 7th, etc... Core, was the extension of that same series, albeit more precise and specific in its intent. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On March 03 2015 01:09 Thieving Magpie wrote: Technically, core sets were just the extension of Unlimited, which was the extension of Alpha and Beta, which were just the reprinting of "core cards" that defined each color. Except when that changed 10 years ago. "Technically", no, it hasn't been that since M10. It's true that it focuses on the "core aspects" of each colors, but it's not meant to just be a reprint party. | ||
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.AK
United States561 Posts
Edit: Just read that it will not be coming back. | ||
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Wingblade
United States1806 Posts
On March 03 2015 08:03 .AK wrote: Dragon spoilers are out. Rebound, dash, and bolster are back. Really like all those mechanics so I'm excited. New mechanic exploit also looks like a slam dunk in both flavor and game play. Megamorph and Formidable aren't the most exciting but considering we got some sweet mechanics back I am fine with them. Does anyone know if Prowess is coming back? Edit: Just read that it will not be coming back. Rebound + Prowess = hype in Standard. Let's see, cast spell with rebound, trigger prowess, next upkeep trigger prowess again, get a spell casted twice. Yay! Oh and profound journey an Ugin back into play, rebound it for a Whip of Erebos? Whip back Hornet Queen or Siege Rhino? I guess I need to build Abzan Whip... | ||
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.AK
United States561 Posts
Abzan Whip was definitely a thing before FRF but Eugene kind of forced whip decks out of favor, might see a resurgence. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
I mean, it wasn't good in Standard because it was there at the time as Bolt, but now... | ||
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SigmaFiE
United States333 Posts
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