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Shai
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada806 Posts
September 13 2012 05:29 GMT
#4121
On September 13 2012 10:39 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 08:59 Xiphos wrote:
Hey is Extended dead? Finding no traces of it over @ MTGSalvation.


Yeah, WotC did a bit of a definition shake-up 2 or 3 years ago; T2 is now Standard, Extended is now Modern, Legacy and Vintage are still Legacy and Vintage. They also did some rules changes around M10, the main one being removing damage from the stack.

Also, was able to build a legacy Affinity deck for 12 MTGO tickets. I find it amusing that I can play affinity for that cheap and still be semi-competative (the only thing the deck's missing is Mox Opal and Stoneforge Mystic).


Modern and Extended are not the same. Wizards is dropping Extended as the format was unpopular.

Modern is a new eternal format which allows all cards that have been printed in regular expansions using the "new" card face (Mirrodin era on). The format will never rotate.
Eagerly awaiting Techies.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 13 2012 19:06 GMT
#4122
On September 13 2012 14:29 Shai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 10:39 Kinie wrote:
On September 13 2012 08:59 Xiphos wrote:
Hey is Extended dead? Finding no traces of it over @ MTGSalvation.


Yeah, WotC did a bit of a definition shake-up 2 or 3 years ago; T2 is now Standard, Extended is now Modern, Legacy and Vintage are still Legacy and Vintage. They also did some rules changes around M10, the main one being removing damage from the stack.

Also, was able to build a legacy Affinity deck for 12 MTGO tickets. I find it amusing that I can play affinity for that cheap and still be semi-competative (the only thing the deck's missing is Mox Opal and Stoneforge Mystic).


Modern and Extended are not the same. Wizards is dropping Extended as the format was unpopular.

Modern is a new eternal format which allows all cards that have been printed in regular expansions using the "new" card face (Mirrodin era on). The format will never rotate.


Really? No way! He was clearly saying extended was being replaced by modern...

On September 13 2012 13:21 last.resistance wrote:
Rare creature 3UR: 2/3 U, tap: draw two cards; R, tap, discard a card: ~ deals damage to target creature equal to discarded cards mana cost.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It doesn't seem like there is a mythic on par with Geist, Huntmaster or Bonfire so far, with Rakdos, the mono R and GW mythics left to be spoiled (assuming 15 mythics broken down into 5 guild leaders, 5 guild colored and 5 mono colored). It will be a refreshing change not to have a mythic be one of the defining cards in standard for a while. Unless one of the planeswalkers blows up (between the two I think Vraska in a Golgari or Jund deck).


Huge fan of this card (then again I don't really play that much standard. I'd love this card in limited)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 19:18:43
September 13 2012 19:16 GMT
#4123
On September 14 2012 04:06 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 14:29 Shai wrote:
On September 13 2012 10:39 Kinie wrote:
On September 13 2012 08:59 Xiphos wrote:
Hey is Extended dead? Finding no traces of it over @ MTGSalvation.


Yeah, WotC did a bit of a definition shake-up 2 or 3 years ago; T2 is now Standard, Extended is now Modern, Legacy and Vintage are still Legacy and Vintage. They also did some rules changes around M10, the main one being removing damage from the stack.

Also, was able to build a legacy Affinity deck for 12 MTGO tickets. I find it amusing that I can play affinity for that cheap and still be semi-competative (the only thing the deck's missing is Mox Opal and Stoneforge Mystic).


Modern and Extended are not the same. Wizards is dropping Extended as the format was unpopular.

Modern is a new eternal format which allows all cards that have been printed in regular expansions using the "new" card face (Mirrodin era on). The format will never rotate.


Really? No way! He was clearly saying extended was being replaced by modern...

Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 13:21 last.resistance wrote:
Rare creature 3UR: 2/3 U, tap: draw two cards; R, tap, discard a card: ~ deals damage to target creature equal to discarded cards mana cost.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It doesn't seem like there is a mythic on par with Geist, Huntmaster or Bonfire so far, with Rakdos, the mono R and GW mythics left to be spoiled (assuming 15 mythics broken down into 5 guild leaders, 5 guild colored and 5 mono colored). It will be a refreshing change not to have a mythic be one of the defining cards in standard for a while. Unless one of the planeswalkers blows up (between the two I think Vraska in a Golgari or Jund deck).


Huge fan of this card (then again I don't really play that much standard. I'd love this card in limited)

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Resources.aspx?x=judge/resources/sfrmodern
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Resources.aspx?x=judge/resources/sfrextended

Yup modern is just all cards with the modern frame, extended is like standard + few more years and it rotates.
he is right that extended is unpopular i don't see many tounys for it.

Personally as far as constructed go i usually prefer more casual sorta games like EDH pauper or just w.e you wanna slap together, outside of that it's standard or i actually prefer the most block constructed. But really i liked limited formats the most, with sealed>draft but draft is cheaper and i just like it cheaper haha. The thing about constructed i don't like is the mentality of winning just kind kills the experimentation and fun that i can get with limited and not get tired of because ill get a new limited in a couple months and it works out.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 04:16:16
September 14 2012 01:40 GMT
#4124
I thought I laid the sarcasm on heavily enough... I guess not.

Edit: Ohhhhh man. Ash zealot with even more play-from-GY hate.

Creature - Human Warrior
First strike, haste
Whenever a player casts a spell from a graveyard, Ash Zealot deals 3 damage to that player.
2/2

So, good against zombies/snapcaster AND it's a good two drop for mono red, in my opinion (even for decks that aren't mono red and just heavy red). It's also something that I wouldn't mind drawing later in a game.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 04:23:48
September 14 2012 04:11 GMT
#4125
Pithing Needle reprint as well.

2/2 First Strike with Haste with another ability for RR seems a little pushed.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
September 14 2012 04:24 GMT
#4126
Centaur Healer seems like a good sideboard card against aggro. especially if you're running Restoration Angel.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
September 14 2012 04:32 GMT
#4127
On September 14 2012 13:24 Shotcoder wrote:
Centaur Healer seems like a good sideboard card against aggro. especially if you're running Restoration Angel.


I don't think any aggro (I don't mean midrange) can beat that card comfortably.
Get it by your hands...
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
September 14 2012 04:40 GMT
#4128
Nice to see Red getting some love - though I found it quite funny how Tom Lapille's article was basically "eh..might not see play - we did the best we could."
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
September 14 2012 04:48 GMT
#4129
Sounds like mill isn't going to be a thing in RTR.

Uncommon instant 4U Shuffle all cards from your graveyard into your library. Target players puts that many cards from the top of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
September 14 2012 04:57 GMT
#4130
On September 14 2012 13:48 last.resistance wrote:
Sounds like mill isn't going to be a thing in RTR.

Uncommon instant 4U Shuffle all cards from your graveyard into your library. Target players puts that many cards from the top of his or her library into his or her graveyard.


??? Start a counter war, on that caster's turn?

Duress is a very powerful card you know?

UB lived through Elixir which is a much harder card to beat than a 5 mana instant.

Anyways, Pithing Needle solved a lot of problems for BUG, still want to play 4 cc and still can't decide if the 4th color is better as White or Red. No, the mana base isn't good enough for 5 cc.
Get it by your hands...
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 05:08:33
September 14 2012 05:07 GMT
#4131
I was referring to it as a mill spell, not as an anti-mill spell, and in the context of limited.
EMIYA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States433 Posts
September 14 2012 06:43 GMT
#4132
Just got magic online--so you can only participate in tournments with event tickets?

The starter pack came with a few, but i have a feeling that with the beginner cards i won't be coming out anywhere near on top to break even from a bracket.

Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 14 2012 07:02 GMT
#4133
On September 14 2012 15:43 EMIYA wrote:
Just got magic online--so you can only participate in tournments with event tickets?

The starter pack came with a few, but i have a feeling that with the beginner cards i won't be coming out anywhere near on top to break even from a bracket.



Yes. The tournaments online run the same as tournaments in real life. So you'll need to buy the cards to build a deck or use event tickets to play in drafts.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 07:21:23
September 14 2012 07:12 GMT
#4134
Wow, Ash Zealot. I don't even know what I'd want to put it in but I want a playset already haha. Wizards really hates Snapcaster lol. But man it's just so above the curve for a Red 2-drop.

The RR cost seems restrictive for splashing, but it's way above the curve. It's also Lightning Bolt bait, but then again, almost everything is. If only I could somehow make a viable Maverick-esqe deck in Modern hrm...
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
EMIYA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States433 Posts
September 14 2012 07:28 GMT
#4135
Do people play these kinds of deck in tournies? I've never seen this kind of bs before.

Blue deck, and he just tries to lay down howling mines with 2 jacer's erasure behind fog banks to make my deck run dry.

9 turns later, i have 4 cards left in my deck, with a field full of 1-2/1s and flyers and 1/1 tokens. i draw oblivion ring, exile his random 5/5 (jacer's phantom) and attack with everything..he goes to -2 hp and i win. jesus.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
September 14 2012 13:15 GMT
#4136
On September 14 2012 16:28 EMIYA wrote:
Do people play these kinds of deck in tournies? I've never seen this kind of bs before.

Blue deck, and he just tries to lay down howling mines with 2 jacer's erasure behind fog banks to make my deck run dry.

9 turns later, i have 4 cards left in my deck, with a field full of 1-2/1s and flyers and 1/1 tokens. i draw oblivion ring, exile his random 5/5 (jacer's phantom) and attack with everything..he goes to -2 hp and i win. jesus.


Turbo fog was a deck. Notice I use the past tense of the word.

Yes, I play something similar along the lines of UB control where one my win conditions is Nephalia Drownyard and I just maneuver the game towards a situation where you have lost and you just don't know it yet.

Get it by your hands...
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
September 14 2012 13:35 GMT
#4137
On September 14 2012 22:15 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 16:28 EMIYA wrote:
Do people play these kinds of deck in tournies? I've never seen this kind of bs before.

Blue deck, and he just tries to lay down howling mines with 2 jacer's erasure behind fog banks to make my deck run dry.

9 turns later, i have 4 cards left in my deck, with a field full of 1-2/1s and flyers and 1/1 tokens. i draw oblivion ring, exile his random 5/5 (jacer's phantom) and attack with everything..he goes to -2 hp and i win. jesus.


Turbo fog was a deck. Notice I use the past tense of the word.

Yes, I play something similar along the lines of UB control where one my win conditions is Nephalia Drownyard and I just maneuver the game towards a situation where you have lost and you just don't know it yet.


These decks were actually fairly popular for a while at my local gaming store. That UB control was as well, though the version I ran into was UWB, so it had access to doj and terminus. Caught me off guard, and I ended up losing 0-2.

I ended up running Witchbane Orb in my sideboard for a while, as it also deals with Bonfire of the Damned, Curse of Death's Hold, and Devil's Play (which I've seen a lot more of in this new Team America control deck)
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 17:10:43
September 14 2012 15:51 GMT
#4138
On September 14 2012 22:15 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 16:28 EMIYA wrote:
Do people play these kinds of deck in tournies? I've never seen this kind of bs before.

Blue deck, and he just tries to lay down howling mines with 2 jacer's erasure behind fog banks to make my deck run dry.

9 turns later, i have 4 cards left in my deck, with a field full of 1-2/1s and flyers and 1/1 tokens. i draw oblivion ring, exile his random 5/5 (jacer's phantom) and attack with everything..he goes to -2 hp and i win. jesus.


Turbo fog was a deck. Notice I use the past tense of the word.

Yes, I play something similar along the lines of UB control where one my win conditions is Nephalia Drownyard and I just maneuver the game towards a situation where you have lost and you just don't know it yet.


had someone play turbo fog in fnm last week, he eneded up just drawing too many people due to time limitations, dat touch of et + fog+safe passage +elixirs of immortality, really that kind of turbo fog needs sands and more importantly staff of nin to actually be playable in draft. But then again i drafted a door to nothingness deck then and got past swiss only to lose first of top 8 games.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
September 14 2012 16:54 GMT
#4139
Thats not turbofog...neat deck though.
Get it by your hands...
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 17:12:30
September 14 2012 17:12 GMT
#4140
On September 15 2012 01:54 Judicator wrote:
Thats not turbofog...neat deck though.

It' close enough, when 5 mins in people just shake their head in frustration. It had the fog part of turbo fog it just couldn't get in damage reliably, or draw enough cards back to back so that it wouldn't need touch of the et to delay the game to draw more fogs, which also meant playing planar cleansing is risky as it's not pure creature destruction.
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