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On September 06 2012 14:02 last.resistance wrote:
The G/B hybrid one drop is a 1/1 plant zombie with a scavenge cost of 0.

The GB rare kill spell is uncounterable, destroy target nonland permanent with cmc less than 3.

On September 06 2012 14:27 last.resistance wrote:
Also spoiled tonight were two rare six mana enchantments: 3GGW for triple anthem and 5R for a card with no flavour text because it's stupid convoluted. On your upkeep target opponent reveals the top three cards of their library, they may put a creature from the three cards into play, rest into graveyard, you reveal the top three cards of your library, you may put a creature card from the three cards into play, rest into graveyard, if you both put a creature into play they fight.

It has a sweet name (Guild Feud) and sweet art though (Winged demon facing down a Boros knight with two swords).

On September 07 2012 01:01 Risen wrote:
Remand is never getting reprinted. Or maybe with all the counter hate it is. I hope it never gets reprinted :<

On September 07 2012 13:28 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Nice art, but it's not Remand. Modern looks even harder to get into. Lots of counter-hate running around too. And why is Syncopate now an Uncommon over the Odessy Common? Limited maybe?

On September 07 2012 15:06 Judicator wrote:


Yes.

The 3 mana for 4/4 doesn't seem all that great....Duress still peaks it and Abrupt End still kills it. Nobody decent will play into this card...I don't know...I don't even like Liliana in the GW(x) match up (I hate it in fact and it kills you more than it kills them). So unless we are getting some solid hand disruption on top of Duress (like Inquisition level) this doesn't seem all that exciting. The killer is that this card doesn't give you life which makes Obstinate Baloth still better despite 1 mana more. The uncounterable part isn't even that relevant, I don't forsee any control player losing as a result of this card. Maybe this card has good match up against Zombies, dunno.

Anyways, gogo BUG.

On September 07 2012 13:28 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Nice art, but it's not Remand. Modern looks even harder to get into. Lots of counter-hate running around too. And why is Syncopate now an Uncommon over the Odessy Common? Limited maybe?

On September 07 2012 15:13 Shotcoder wrote:


a 4/4 for 3 with no drawbacks is always something to look at, plus the fact it is uncounterable and can possibly get put into play for free? seems more than fine.

Also I'm building junk I think. The things it can do just seems so retarded.\

Edit: This set has me so excited, I've only been playing since ROE but this is fucking making me antsy waiting for it.

On September 07 2012 22:14 Judicator wrote:


It doesn't gain you life which is important, like turn 3, do you play this or do you play hold it in your hand against a Liliana type effect? That's an extremely awkward line. This card is even more awkward if they see it off of a Duress (judging by all the uncounterable spells, will be probably pretty good). If there's a BG or a UB spell (at 2 cmc) that says do X, target opponent discards a card effect, then maybe this will see some play.

4 power is good and all, but it seems so lack luster for the 3 drop compared to its counterparts at the 4 slot.

On September 08 2012 00:17 semantics wrote:

It's a perfectlly fine 3 drop, 4 for uncounterable 4/4 which is outside of most cheap burn seems good enough to play, you'd only hold it in hand if you knew what your opp had, it's a good card aganist controling type decks it gets something big out there quickly.

On September 08 2012 00:59 Judicator wrote:


See, again the problem is that it makes the play on the third turn awkward. If you play it on 3, you run the risk of a wrath effect. That's why those GW decks never worked until people started not playing Days and just straight up died to UB control because they were never at risk of dying from things like burn.

The uncounterable benefit isn't all that relevant. It just means that counterspell is going to be pointed at something else, and this card by itself isn't enough to threaten any of the slower decks on its own since it doesn't protect itself (Shroud/Hexproof) nor does it have any relevant triggers (Thragtusk). It's just plain bleh.

It's sideboard worthy for sure, but I wouldn't go anywhere near this in the maindeck and I would also have to really think about putting this card into the board.

On September 08 2012 01:33 semantics wrote:

It's green white so turn 2 4/4 is good in my book, sure they'll throw a turn away killing it and their delver or w.e but that's fine.

I mean you're going to have to look at what standard will become with M12 and scars block out of rotation which takes out Mirrodin Besieged and New Phyrexia.

Which takes away things like Ponder, Mana Leak, gut shot, Gitaxian Probe, Vapor Snag, Mental Misstep, Dismember, Doom Blade, Go for the Throat etc.

So i mean you're theory crafting for standard with M13 in it. You're also getting rid of easy dual lands for shock lands/tap(m13) lands that can't enter turn 1 untapped, taking out phyrexian mana and free dual land on turn 1, is going to change alot of blue white control, esp when you're not running mana leak but instead something like essence scatter, murder instead of doomblade etc you don't quite have that blanket to get early game tempo that blue white and black blue control has been enjoying.

To that point would i run 3 mana 4/4 in any old deck probably not, depends what the rest of ravanica has to offer but i'd side it in against control at least 2.

That being said with rancor in standard, i would risk it and play elves(Avacyn's Pilgrim, no birds ) + that card and rancor, but that' more for my heart of hearts turn 2 4/4 turn 3 rancor or even better double rancor! hit for 6/8 be happy on the inside, then trying to think what would be dominate.