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last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
September 04 2012 04:20 GMT
#3981
So you think Wizard's regrets printing Snapcaster? Grafdigger's Cage, reprint Tornod's Crypt and now this:

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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 04:27:32
September 04 2012 04:23 GMT
#3982
Yeah, Wizards has said before that they think Snapcaster was a mistake. And that card is like a mini-Leyline, except on legs. So much Graveyard hate.

Also, 1 CMC for a 2/1 in both G and W is not bad by itself either even ignoring its ability.

If we're talking about powercreep though... this makes Krosan Collossus cry, even if it's probably just an EDH card. Way above the curve, although still probably unplayable in Constructed.
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It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
September 04 2012 04:24 GMT
#3983
On September 04 2012 13:20 last.resistance wrote:
So you think Wizard's regrets printing Snapcaster? Grafdigger's Cage, reprint Tornod's Crypt and now this:

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This card is insaneeeeeeee!

2/1 for cmc 1 is pretty good, the fact that it's white and green is even better, and it has a very, very effective ability. Power creep at it's finest!
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 04:37:30
September 04 2012 04:27 GMT
#3984
I think the 15/15 mythic worm and the black/red enchantment spoiled tonight are both for Commander, although I haven't played that format.

The hybrid cards are interesting so far: a 1/1 flying Cursecatcher for U or W and a 2/1 hate vanguard for W or G.

Part of a cycle of 1 CMC creatures with constructed level abilities?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 04 2012 04:37 GMT
#3985
wtf is with that dryad militant why are they making such ridiculously good cards these days

like wtf why isn't it 1/1 ?
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 04:47:40
September 04 2012 04:47 GMT
#3986
On September 04 2012 13:37 travis wrote:
wtf is with that dryad militant why are they making such ridiculously good cards these days

like wtf why isn't it 1/1 ?


Haha seriously man. I saw that and just laughhhhhed. I mean shit... 2/1 with an ability that would get the card minimum sideboarded in the relevant decks anyways?

Edit: WHITE WEENIES LETS GOOOOOOO
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
September 04 2012 04:49 GMT
#3987
On September 04 2012 13:37 travis wrote:
wtf is with that dryad militant why are they making such ridiculously good cards these days

like wtf why isn't it 1/1 ?


I think it's because you want the card to be useful other than just its ability. If it were a 1/1 creature for cmc 1 with that ability it would be good when you're playing against snapcaster, and pretty shit otherwise. Since it's a 2/1 though it's actually main-deckable, it makes the snapcaster hate that much better.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 05:52:20
September 04 2012 05:47 GMT
#3988
On September 04 2012 13:23 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Yeah, Wizards has said before that they think Snapcaster was a mistake. And that card is like a mini-Leyline, except on legs. So much Graveyard hate.

Also, 1 CMC for a 2/1 in both G and W is not bad by itself either even ignoring its ability.

If we're talking about powercreep though... this makes Krosan Collossus cry, even if it's probably just an EDH card. Way above the curve, although still probably unplayable in Constructed.
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Surprised that's not a legend considering it has the legend ability, but i guess they are trying to prevent cheating into play.
On September 04 2012 13:37 travis wrote:
wtf is with that dryad militant why are they making such ridiculously good cards these days

like wtf why isn't it 1/1 ?

It's the new(although now pretty old) direction of magic more creature focused so ever sense mythics creatures have become alot more powerful and spells have be made with consideration to formats and overall more toned down but fairer. Wizard's design team has stated quite a few times about how they like people playing a board, putting permas down, instead of old legacy play where you always hold a bunch of spells. Because players enjoyed that more, as much as some people like the broken ness that urza's saga brought to the table it actually lead to a ton of people leaving magic just due to some of the crap being played during that time. That being said i wish they reinvest into enchantments more, never cares for equip artifacts
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
September 04 2012 06:24 GMT
#3989
Along with Thalia, Militant is actually pretty intense for those looking at Snapcaster to be an all-star. The funny thing is, that it is still probably going to be the best blue card in Standard.
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
September 04 2012 13:32 GMT
#3990
If they are dropping that instead of mana dork on turn one, I'll be happy. That card does next to nothing later on.
I dont think its even sideboard worthy if you want to hate on the GY. Its very specific and the fact its 2 power should be an indicator that the effect isnt all that great.
Get it by your hands...
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
September 04 2012 13:39 GMT
#3991
On September 04 2012 22:32 Judicator wrote:
If they are dropping that instead of mana dork on turn one, I'll be happy. That card does next to nothing later on.
I dont think its even sideboard worthy if you want to hate on the GY. Its very specific and the fact its 2 power should be an indicator that the effect isnt all that great.


You're playing snapcaster and you would rather see that than noble hierarch?
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
September 04 2012 14:16 GMT
#3992
Sure it fixes colors but since when were EDH decks limited by colors? :D


Since I run RWU and need stuff besides the signets to fix my bad luck with mana.... T_T

You point out a good thing for Isperia since 4 toughness puts in you in range of double striking creatures. Silverblade Paladin is still a card.


Well yeah, it makes Isperia open to attack into, but I was thinking along the lines of "wall" here. I like running white and blue cards, so I wish she were 4/6 simply on the basis that she wouldn't die as easily.


With all the flashback from Innistrad and instant/sorceries from anything Izzet, I can see the Militant being useful. Probably not as powerful as everyone's fearing, though.
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Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 14:18:18
September 04 2012 14:16 GMT
#3993
On September 04 2012 22:32 Judicator wrote:
If they are dropping that instead of mana dork on turn one, I'll be happy. That card does next to nothing later on.
I dont think its even sideboard worthy if you want to hate on the GY. Its very specific and the fact its 2 power should be an indicator that the effect isnt all that great.

I agree. How are you going to keep a 2/1 for 1 on the field long enough to be relevant against a snapcaster?

Granted, with gutshot cycling out it would have been effective vs the current Delver build, but the guts of that deck are cycling out anyways. Card still dies to curse, or literally any sweeper.

I'm with Ju, I'd much rather see this played than a dork turn 1. I don't think card is game breakingin the slightest, or that it's the best way to deal with snapcaster. I'd much rather be running grafdigger's cage, which at the same mana cost doesn't die to all the removal spells and also shuts down a myriad of other cards. Granted, it's not a 2/1 body, but this 2/1 isn't going to deal with snapcaster nearly as well as people think.
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
September 04 2012 14:47 GMT
#3994
On September 04 2012 22:39 Salv wrote:
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On September 04 2012 22:32 Judicator wrote:
If they are dropping that instead of mana dork on turn one, I'll be happy. That card does next to nothing later on.
I dont think its even sideboard worthy if you want to hate on the GY. Its very specific and the fact its 2 power should be an indicator that the effect isnt all that great.


You're playing snapcaster and you would rather see that than noble hierarch?


Easily. First of all, Noble Heirarch isnt applicable here. Second of all, I play UB control still and the number times that Spellbomb, Extraction, Crypt, Cage has done anything in 500+ games is next to nothing. This card is even easier to remove. Snapcaster isnt broken in control builds. Its stupidly good in tempo builds.
Get it by your hands...
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
September 04 2012 15:01 GMT
#3995
I'd play it in an aggro deck. It's still a 2/1 for 1 in relevant aggro colors and with the relevant type of Soldier (turns on War Falcon).
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
September 04 2012 16:31 GMT
#3996
I'm not sure why everyone is so apopletic over the Dryad. It's not good in weenie decks (rather have Champion of the Parish / Traveler that dies puts 1/1 flyer token), it's basically just elite vanguard..., you don't want to be drawing this guy even at turn 4 or 5, let alone 8 or 9, and is outclassed by the Judge's Familiar (Evasion > 2 power).

It's not even as good as grafdigger's since graf is harder to get rid of. Sure, it may see sideboard play, but the card is absolutely not main deckable.

I'm still not sure why people aren't in an uproar over the Familiar...., that guy is bonkers.

T1 Familiar
T2 Thalia


He's basically a beater (rancor/flying), a counter spell / reduce damage from Bonfire, timewalk, etc. I'd much rather counter a spell (or quasi-timewalk a turn), than merely exile SBA instants and sorceries...seriously.
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 04 2012 17:49 GMT
#3997
On September 05 2012 01:31 Wegandi wrote:
I'm not sure why everyone is so apopletic over the Dryad. It's not good in weenie decks (rather have Champion of the Parish / Traveler that dies puts 1/1 flyer token), it's basically just elite vanguard..., you don't want to be drawing this guy even at turn 4 or 5, let alone 8 or 9, and is outclassed by the Judge's Familiar (Evasion > 2 power).

It's not even as good as grafdigger's since graf is harder to get rid of. Sure, it may see sideboard play, but the card is absolutely not main deckable.

I'm still not sure why people aren't in an uproar over the Familiar...., that guy is bonkers.

T1 Familiar
T2 Thalia


He's basically a beater (rancor/flying), a counter spell / reduce damage from Bonfire, timewalk, etc. I'd much rather counter a spell (or quasi-timewalk a turn), than merely exile SBA instants and sorceries...seriously.


I was under the impression that he would also be auto-include in my ww deck.
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
September 04 2012 18:08 GMT
#3998
On September 05 2012 01:31 Wegandi wrote:
I'm not sure why everyone is so apopletic over the Dryad. It's not good in weenie decks (rather have Champion of the Parish / Traveler that dies puts 1/1 flyer token), it's basically just elite vanguard..., you don't want to be drawing this guy even at turn 4 or 5, let alone 8 or 9, and is outclassed by the Judge's Familiar (Evasion > 2 power).

It's not even as good as grafdigger's since graf is harder to get rid of. Sure, it may see sideboard play, but the card is absolutely not main deckable.

I'm still not sure why people aren't in an uproar over the Familiar...., that guy is bonkers.

T1 Familiar
T2 Thalia


He's basically a beater (rancor/flying), a counter spell / reduce damage from Bonfire, timewalk, etc. I'd much rather counter a spell (or quasi-timewalk a turn), than merely exile SBA instants and sorceries...seriously.


Tragic Slip is a card.
Get it by your hands...
Shai
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada806 Posts
September 04 2012 18:12 GMT
#3999
On September 05 2012 01:31 Wegandi wrote:
I'm not sure why everyone is so apopletic over the Dryad. It's not good in weenie decks (rather have Champion of the Parish / Traveler that dies puts 1/1 flyer token), it's basically just elite vanguard..., you don't want to be drawing this guy even at turn 4 or 5, let alone 8 or 9, and is outclassed by the Judge's Familiar (Evasion > 2 power).

It's not even as good as grafdigger's since graf is harder to get rid of. Sure, it may see sideboard play, but the card is absolutely not main deckable.

I'm still not sure why people aren't in an uproar over the Familiar...., that guy is bonkers.

T1 Familiar
T2 Thalia


He's basically a beater (rancor/flying), a counter spell / reduce damage from Bonfire, timewalk, etc. I'd much rather counter a spell (or quasi-timewalk a turn), than merely exile SBA instants and sorceries...seriously.


If you watched the invitational last weekend you'd notice how absolutely dominant Snapcaster was and how an include of this card into your deck could absolutely shut-down those top-tier decks in an aggro deck. Aggro usually has to be pretty one-track-minded in order to get there with its damage fast enough, thus ignoring answers. This guy is an answer and a threat.
Eagerly awaiting Techies.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 18:21:13
September 04 2012 18:19 GMT
#4000
No. You guys seriously need to evaluate cards in proper context. Cursecatcher it is not. Card doesnt do anything in a creature heavy environment. This card unlike Cursecatcher is not tribally supported which makes this card a miserable POS as the game drags on.

Please tell me how this stops Snapcaster in a non Delver build or even Delver build?
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