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On February 13 2012 05:19 BlueBird. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 15:02 el_dawg wrote:On February 12 2012 09:09 Project Psycho wrote:
does anyone have any tips for a newbie starting up a account for magic online? ive only played a handful of games irl and i dont have a clue what am doing on here, i just feel lost. I've tried reading the faq's and stuff on the site but still no better off really and they seem pretty dated anyway. They say to keep your booster pack and event tickets, but for what exactly? Use your event tickets to buy cards and build a deck you like. You can buy cards for tix from bots in the marketplace. You can also sell your booster pack to a bot for more credit (unless you got that pack of gold bordered cards, i'm not sure you can sell that). If you are new to magic in general, I would suggest spending some time investigating the different formats and decks before putting one together yourself. It also really just depends on what your goal is, if you don't really have much money you want to put into the game yet until your sure, use those gold cards to play planeswalker for awhile if your a true beginner, it's basically duels of the planeswalker cards where you get to build your own deck. All the constructed formats cost $ to play in and enter, and the cards are very expensive as well, and limited is expensive as well just in a different way. Depending on how good you are you can recoup your investment/costs, but it takes time, patience, and $ to get there. On Sundays they have Phantom sealed events/drafts for 2 tix, I suggest those for fun if your really new and want to try playing in some tournaments. It's 2 tix to play, and there are prizes, and you don't need a deck to play since it's a limited event(you don't keep the cards you open cause it's phantom though, only the prizes you win). Today's was at 10;00am pacific standard time. You can also find player run constructed events with prizes/fun formats and free entries, but keep in mind some of the formats are very expensive when you consider the cards being used, most players are running cheap fun decks in these tournaments, I haven't really played in these as I play in the official daily events/premier events mostly but they are an option for playing on the cheap, especially if your new. http://community.wizards.com/go/forum/view/75846/135082/Magic_Online_Player_Run_EventsThere should be a calendar and threads where you can get info on each event. Honestly I don't think Planeswalker cards will hold your interest very long, especially if your a competitive player, but even for casual players, the card pool is small and boring, but it's good to get a feel for Magic Online. The next step imo is to decide if you want to invest into a constructed format, you can try pauper, It's not as cheap as it used to be, but depending on what deck you choose to play you can build it pretty cheap. I think goblins without a sideboard isn't that bad, maybe 8 dollars, and if you want to make the full investment of pyroblasts and gorilla shamans maybe 25$ i don't know. Pauper isn't that fun to me personally, but some people do have fun playing it. The second cheapest format is usually block constructed, with a new set coming in, there might be a cheap deck that doesn't use mythics around, keep an eye out. The UR stalker deck and WR humans deck that did well when INS was the only set in the block, had no mythic rares and could both be bought very cheaply. If you get a good block deck and win with it your able to build up your collection for next rotation of standard, that's how I started on Magic Online with ALA block constructed. If your a fan of limited and your on Magic Online to play limited, then your best bet starting is probably swiss drafts. If your an experienced drafter than 8-4 drafts are probably more your style.. but if your experienced in the game you can ignore what I've said. For sealed, the Sealed daily events and premier events are the best value there. I hate sealed, but you can always get lucky  . I would try not to buy random cards and spend all of your $ right away, try to have a plan.. figure out your budget and what your goal is(play constructed tournaments, play casually in the casual room, play in fun player run events, etc) . If you buy things you don't need you end up selling them back at a loss and your money disappears.
thanks for your reply's guys, much appreciated. I think il play the planeswalker stuff for awhile until i find my feet and try and learn about the other formats along the way. I would really love to play limited format as it looks really fun, but am far too inexperienced that right now and i would be just wasting my money lol. I watched the pro tour over the weekend and it was awesome, even tho it took till sunday before i started to recognized certain cards and stuff. Its certainly the type of game i want to play but at the same time i dont want to be just throwing my money away so i have a lot of learning ahead me, just wish some of my friends would play too  lol
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On February 14 2012 12:48 Project Psycho wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2012 05:19 BlueBird. wrote:On February 12 2012 15:02 el_dawg wrote:On February 12 2012 09:09 Project Psycho wrote:
does anyone have any tips for a newbie starting up a account for magic online? ive only played a handful of games irl and i dont have a clue what am doing on here, i just feel lost. I've tried reading the faq's and stuff on the site but still no better off really and they seem pretty dated anyway. They say to keep your booster pack and event tickets, but for what exactly? Use your event tickets to buy cards and build a deck you like. You can buy cards for tix from bots in the marketplace. You can also sell your booster pack to a bot for more credit (unless you got that pack of gold bordered cards, i'm not sure you can sell that). If you are new to magic in general, I would suggest spending some time investigating the different formats and decks before putting one together yourself. It also really just depends on what your goal is, if you don't really have much money you want to put into the game yet until your sure, use those gold cards to play planeswalker for awhile if your a true beginner, it's basically duels of the planeswalker cards where you get to build your own deck. All the constructed formats cost $ to play in and enter, and the cards are very expensive as well, and limited is expensive as well just in a different way. Depending on how good you are you can recoup your investment/costs, but it takes time, patience, and $ to get there. On Sundays they have Phantom sealed events/drafts for 2 tix, I suggest those for fun if your really new and want to try playing in some tournaments. It's 2 tix to play, and there are prizes, and you don't need a deck to play since it's a limited event(you don't keep the cards you open cause it's phantom though, only the prizes you win). Today's was at 10;00am pacific standard time. You can also find player run constructed events with prizes/fun formats and free entries, but keep in mind some of the formats are very expensive when you consider the cards being used, most players are running cheap fun decks in these tournaments, I haven't really played in these as I play in the official daily events/premier events mostly but they are an option for playing on the cheap, especially if your new. http://community.wizards.com/go/forum/view/75846/135082/Magic_Online_Player_Run_EventsThere should be a calendar and threads where you can get info on each event. Honestly I don't think Planeswalker cards will hold your interest very long, especially if your a competitive player, but even for casual players, the card pool is small and boring, but it's good to get a feel for Magic Online. The next step imo is to decide if you want to invest into a constructed format, you can try pauper, It's not as cheap as it used to be, but depending on what deck you choose to play you can build it pretty cheap. I think goblins without a sideboard isn't that bad, maybe 8 dollars, and if you want to make the full investment of pyroblasts and gorilla shamans maybe 25$ i don't know. Pauper isn't that fun to me personally, but some people do have fun playing it. The second cheapest format is usually block constructed, with a new set coming in, there might be a cheap deck that doesn't use mythics around, keep an eye out. The UR stalker deck and WR humans deck that did well when INS was the only set in the block, had no mythic rares and could both be bought very cheaply. If you get a good block deck and win with it your able to build up your collection for next rotation of standard, that's how I started on Magic Online with ALA block constructed. If your a fan of limited and your on Magic Online to play limited, then your best bet starting is probably swiss drafts. If your an experienced drafter than 8-4 drafts are probably more your style.. but if your experienced in the game you can ignore what I've said. For sealed, the Sealed daily events and premier events are the best value there. I hate sealed, but you can always get lucky . I would try not to buy random cards and spend all of your $ right away, try to have a plan.. figure out your budget and what your goal is(play constructed tournaments, play casually in the casual room, play in fun player run events, etc) . If you buy things you don't need you end up selling them back at a loss and your money disappears. thanks for your reply's guys, much appreciated. I think il play the planeswalker stuff for awhile until i find my feet and try and learn about the other formats along the way. I would really love to play limited format as it looks really fun, but am far too inexperienced that right now and i would be just wasting my money lol. I watched the pro tour over the weekend and it was awesome, even tho it took till sunday before i started to recognized certain cards and stuff. Its certainly the type of game i want to play but at the same time i dont want to be just throwing my money away so i have a lot of learning ahead me, just wish some of my friends would play too lol
I totally know the feeling. I'd put my skill level at a 3.5 out of 10 and my deck building at a 2 out of 10. This is a very obnoxious game to build your skill in. It takes money and time and commitment. My first big tournament in LA, my eyes hurt like crazy after 4 rounds. And my buddy told me it was because I would stop blinking during the matches...It's a bit more fun to just sit at the table with your friends and play around.
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Just curious. How many of you guys play only Online, how many with 'real' cards, and how many both?
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I play with both. I use real cards more often for things like Constructed but I draft online a lot and do sealed every once and awhile.
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I have a lot more cards online than I do offline.
With friends I play paper magic with kitchen-table decks (none of us have many cards so every card is legal), and online I play constructed standard mostly, and sometimes drafts.
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Mostly paper player, I playtest online a lot though for T2 just to get a feel for how I should approach the format and random decks. I hate playing against brews IRL since you have to guess what they're gonna drop on you.
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On February 14 2012 14:46 Judicator wrote:
Mostly paper player, I playtest online a lot though for T2 just to get a feel for how I should approach the format and random decks. I hate playing against brews IRL since you have to guess what they're gonna drop on you.
Can you playtest online for free? i.e. have acess to all the cards?
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MWS, I borrow friend's MTGO if I need to test test, but even then we sleeve up for that stuff.
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I play only online MTGO(mostly about 90% constructed), i haven't played paper for awhile, and I don't own any paper cards as of now(I also moved so I don't have a play group or know anyone where I'm at so no borrowing for me  ). I would attend Grand Prix Seattle but the MOCS is same day, and I have prior obligations that weekend, which sucks cause it's only 3 hour drive.
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I play completely paper with the exception of playtesting online. I use cockatrice personally for playtesting.
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What decks have you guys tested so far?
I've been playing that lingering souls deck and it's insanely good. Depending on the meta I might take the mainboard artifact hate out. A lot of people around where I play haven't caught on to the fact War and Peace is actually insane.
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On February 14 2012 14:08 wunsun wrote:
Just curious. How many of you guys play only Online, how many with 'real' cards, and how many both?
I used to play with physical cards
then all my friends stopped playing and I did too
they still dont play but when I get the time I play some mtgo when I don't feel like playing sc2 I guess oo (although I suck ``)
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On February 15 2012 13:33 Shotcoder wrote:
What decks have you guys tested so far?
I've been playing that lingering souls deck and it's insanely good. Depending on the meta I might take the mainboard artifact hate out. A lot of people around where I play haven't caught on to the fact War and Peace is actually insane.
Back to UB control with a better removal package and tweaked it a bit more. Haven't dropped a game against anything but Huntmaster Run.
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On February 15 2012 14:42 Judicator wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2012 13:33 Shotcoder wrote:
What decks have you guys tested so far?
I've been playing that lingering souls deck and it's insanely good. Depending on the meta I might take the mainboard artifact hate out. A lot of people around where I play haven't caught on to the fact War and Peace is actually insane. Back to UB control with a better removal package and tweaked it a bit more. Haven't dropped a game against anything but Huntmaster Run.
Guessing you're talking about the list without planeswalkers? Seems like a really strong list. I just haven't had the time to dedicate to control testing. I'm still thinking about Esper but not having access to Tragic slip in the UW(b) version is so heartbreaking.
I'm also hating evolving wilds in Spirits. every time I played it I ponder and find what I need and have to bite the bullet and fetch or just take the 1 less land.
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On February 15 2012 14:42 Judicator wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2012 13:33 Shotcoder wrote:
What decks have you guys tested so far?
I've been playing that lingering souls deck and it's insanely good. Depending on the meta I might take the mainboard artifact hate out. A lot of people around where I play haven't caught on to the fact War and Peace is actually insane. Back to UB control with a better removal package and tweaked it a bit more. Haven't dropped a game against anything but Huntmaster Run.
I keep seeing posts about how amazing your UB deck is and how you never lose with it... If you are getting all of these testing results from mws I wouldn't put too much stock in it. I've stopped playing on MWS because of how bad people are on it. If you haven't dropped a game against anything but huntmaster with it, you either haven't played much or are playing vs really bad people.
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On February 16 2012 01:14 DEN1ED wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2012 14:42 Judicator wrote:On February 15 2012 13:33 Shotcoder wrote:
What decks have you guys tested so far?
I've been playing that lingering souls deck and it's insanely good. Depending on the meta I might take the mainboard artifact hate out. A lot of people around where I play haven't caught on to the fact War and Peace is actually insane. Back to UB control with a better removal package and tweaked it a bit more. Haven't dropped a game against anything but Huntmaster Run. I keep seeing posts about how amazing your UB deck is and how you never lose with it... If you are getting all of these testing results from mws I wouldn't put too much stock in it. I've stopped playing on MWS because of how bad people are on it. If you haven't dropped a game against anything but huntmaster with it, you either haven't played much or are playing vs really bad people.
I am not putting too much stock, and I am well aware of what play mistakes I make and what my opponent makes, especially on MWS. Huntmaster is terrible against tuned UB lists, Wolf-run in general is terrible against UB lists pre-board, it's better post-board, but it's not like I am sitting on my board either. If you board smart and intelligently, you should be able to win. I dropped a game to someone packing 2 Karns in the Huntmaster deck post-board, just caught me off guard after I stabilized at 3 life. In either case, Hex Parasite has alleviated alot of the problems I was having with PWs.
Also, I am not the only person who's thinking UB is the nuts, nobody really wants to put in work for it (since there is no way around the testing time it takes) and the mono-Green match up is BRUTAL. UB blanks all other control decks and even more so post-board (what are they boarding in/out against me versus what I am boarding in/out against them isn't even fair). PV said himself that he wanted to play UB but couldn't cause the mG match up was impossible (to a point, but you do have to warp your board a bit for it).
In either case, it's honestly in my opinion, the most consistent deck in T2, but you literally have to keep up with the meta very closely or you simply cannot run it. Also, it's not MY list, it's Stark's list but like 5-7 tweaked cards on any given day.
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Also, its not the list without PWs, I have Karn and 2x Lilianas mained for the herpderpy hexproof creatures.
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I might not be good at Magic, but I am lucky.
Hello Sorin in my prerelease pool on Magic Online.
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Being lucky is being good at magic I'm also really good at poker!
I think it's possible to run a perfect 75 in UB, but it depends on what you are playing against. One 75 has amazing odds verse certain decks, and then can fair poorly against a certain niche. It's pretty much about covering all your bases and trimming the fat. I've actually put together a creature hate zombie deck that has been proving itself nicely verse all the mid-range aggro decks that pollute my area. I'd assume it fairs poorly verse decks that can dish out an overwhelming amount of threats at a later point, but I've been holding my own verse RG ramp, heartless, birthing pod and whatever else you can argue isn't aggro. It's a bit of a janky brew, but it's been working for me so far. I don't remember ever facing a control deck with it, but it seems like it could be resilient.
+ Show Spoiler +3 Liliana of the Veil
4 Gravecrawler
4 Geralf's Messenger
8 Swamp
4 Tragic Slip
4 Diregraf Ghoul
4 Woodland Cemetery
4 Deadly Allure
4 Distress
4 Mortarpod
4 Darkslick Shores
4 Drowned Catacomb
4 Diregraf Captain
3 Island
SB: 3 Porcelain Legionnaire
SB: 4 Mana Leak
SB: 3 Ratchet Bomb
SB: 2 Black Sun's Zenith
SB: 3 Geth's Verdict
Deadly Allure and mortarpod have been amazing pseudo removal for me. I moved Legionnaire to the SB, because I haven't seen too many Crusaders around (people seem to like geist). I'm trying to make a more controlling list with the zombies as threats, but this always seems to at least grab me at least 1 win in any matchup. Not sure how I feel about liliana, but when I have spewed at my hand, and my opponent can't wipe beneficially, she just goes to town, so I kept her at 3. Tragic slip is probably the best card in this deck. Dismember wasn't right for the decks I was playing against.
If I become more comfortable with what people are playing, I'm sure I'll try my hand at UB control in the future.
By the by, + Show Spoiler + because he came to TL once.
On January 19 2012 13:54 kibler wrote:I stream Magic Online at www.twitch.tv/bmkibler for anyone who wants to watch 
On January 21 2012 06:12 kibler wrote:So last night I went to see Above and Beyond and then didn't want to go to bed when I got home, so I decided to stream Magic Online in my sub-sober state. I'll just leave this right here: http://www.twitch.tv/bmkibler/b/306027961
Coinky-Dink? I think not.
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UB takes a lot of tweaking, a lot of serious tweaking and constant updating. The match up against mG is still a problem and I had to adjust the deck for it.
Also, that list is better off with...Smallpox. UB has massive issues against that version of mB.
In either case, mG and mB have retarded sideboard options, ironically mG has better options cause of Beast Within while mB has a bunch of shitty discard, kill and hand disruption spells.
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Did a draft (pure DA) today, went to one today and made a blue white spirit deck. I went 3 and 1, and the 1 lost was to a green whitedeck....all 3 matches he got out the Feed the Pack which made it very difficult to win with white blue spirits in pure DA as I had no actual removal. T.T
The reason why I bring this up was because the person who was passing me with the first and third pack also went white blue spirits. Not even sure how I manage to go 3-1 with the guy in front going blue white spirits as well....I find it very odd.
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