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MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
October 17 2010 05:46 GMT
#181
My roommate made a silly mono-red goblin equip deck that has no rares (though we recently added my 2 Spikeshot Elders to smooth it out a bit). Has a lot of ways to turn 3-4 kill, we had some hilarious rounds in playtesting where he would swing for 30 on turn 4. Not a consistent deck but at least it's another look at budget mono-red aggro/burn, and it can scale well with better cards as you acquire them (roommate's list has like one Goblin Guide we had lying around). Wait a month for all the aggro hate in SBs to die down, then break out a list like that and you could top at a small event or something~

Mono-red burn/aggro or Pyromancer Ascension is probably the way to go if you want a competitive deck without the equivalent of a PS3/Xbox360 in 4 cards.
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Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
October 19 2010 02:02 GMT
#182
Just curious how often does WotC come out with new sets? SoM came out like 2 weeks ago and already the store near my house has a game day giving a preview of the new set :O
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
October 19 2010 02:08 GMT
#183
On October 19 2010 11:02 Nub4ever wrote:
Just curious how often does WotC come out with new sets? SoM came out like 2 weeks ago and already the store near my house has a game day giving a preview of the new set :O


like every 3 months normally, usually 3 sets and a core set a year
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 02:22:11
October 19 2010 02:19 GMT
#184
heh went to an FNM recently which i haven't down in like 3-4 years. quite surprised how many ppl still turn up to those around my area.
i know there's more broken stuff possible but the countertop goyf decks that used to run rampart in extended like 3 years ago are a bitch. turn 1 dark confidant and then lock u down with counterbalance + top or beat down with a giant goyf attached to jitte lol.
but playing again and somewhat getting back into the loop is fun. also cube draft with strangers in insanely fun


edit: also these new rules confuse me. no mana burn plus i was incredibly surprised when i blocked a jitte wielding creature i couldn't sac b4 damage anymore (sakura tribe elder vs jitte anybody?)
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 21:25:56
October 19 2010 20:57 GMT
#185
You mean damage doesn't go on the stack anymore or weird shit happening with mana burn?

They changed the extended legal sets a while ago I think as in how many sets are actually legal for extended.

Also packs/sets for draft changed...
Get it by your hands...
Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
October 20 2010 00:03 GMT
#186
On October 19 2010 11:19 sung_moon wrote:
heh went to an FNM recently which i haven't down in like 3-4 years. quite surprised how many ppl still turn up to those around my area.
i know there's more broken stuff possible but the countertop goyf decks that used to run rampart in extended like 3 years ago are a bitch. turn 1 dark confidant and then lock u down with counterbalance + top or beat down with a giant goyf attached to jitte lol.
but playing again and somewhat getting back into the loop is fun. also cube draft with strangers in insanely fun


edit: also these new rules confuse me. no mana burn plus i was incredibly surprised when i blocked a jitte wielding creature i couldn't sac b4 damage anymore (sakura tribe elder vs jitte anybody?)

You can't sac b4 damage :O? Someone did that to me last week... Or well at least he had a culling dais so he'd always jsut block and sacrifice after...
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
October 20 2010 00:09 GMT
#187
On October 20 2010 09:03 Nub4ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2010 11:19 sung_moon wrote:
heh went to an FNM recently which i haven't down in like 3-4 years. quite surprised how many ppl still turn up to those around my area.
i know there's more broken stuff possible but the countertop goyf decks that used to run rampart in extended like 3 years ago are a bitch. turn 1 dark confidant and then lock u down with counterbalance + top or beat down with a giant goyf attached to jitte lol.
but playing again and somewhat getting back into the loop is fun. also cube draft with strangers in insanely fun


edit: also these new rules confuse me. no mana burn plus i was incredibly surprised when i blocked a jitte wielding creature i couldn't sac b4 damage anymore (sakura tribe elder vs jitte anybody?)

You can't sac b4 damage :O? Someone did that to me last week... Or well at least he had a culling dais so he'd always jsut block and sacrifice after...


You can still block and sacrifice before damage. With the new rules, however, you can't sacrifice after damage like you could before.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 00:12:50
October 20 2010 00:10 GMT
#188
You can sac before damage. when you have priority before combat damage just sac the creature.

blah. been playing with pyromancer's ascension on modo, its quite humbling/infuriating to not see an ascension in 40 cards consistently. No idea why but i run consistently bad with any deck that ISNT control on modo. combo i whiff, digging for the ascension and missing (even missing counterspells) and ending up with 3 preordain, 2 foresee, 3 see beyond in the yard chilling out doing nothing.

Playing 26 land boros (before rotation). Hand of say, Plains, arid mesa, steppe lynx, plated geopede, elspeth, Cunning sparkmage, stoneforge mystic. and getting consistently mana screwed (which began an epic week of tilt and losing. run bad baby).

However with control, no problems on average. I'm a slave to blue. crap.
Bad beat stories ftw!
prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
October 20 2010 12:47 GMT
#189
Apparently DeckCheck will be taken down on the 22nd of October

From the site:

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Please note: Because of recent activities from WotC's side (for smaller parts this and for bigger parts this), this site will be taken down on October, 22nd. It's my decision and not some sort of take-down from Hasbro. I do it, because I don't support a game, that doesn't support its players. I will not sell the site, the domain, or my database, so please refrain from asking.

A big "Thank you very very much!!" to all the players, TOs and judges who submitted decklists and who supported this site during its time being.

Yours truly, EvilBernd.


It will be a sad day for me personally. I've used DeckCheck for inspiration, and to check up on what kind of decks people play with for as long as I can remember. It's also the only Magic related site I visit during periods when I'm not playing (you gotta take breaks ).

Hopefully something similar will come up, or perhaps there already is something similar that I don't know of.
Alak
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden380 Posts
October 20 2010 13:40 GMT
#190
On October 20 2010 09:10 kefkalives wrote:
You can sac before damage. when you have priority before combat damage just sac the creature.

blah. been playing with pyromancer's ascension on modo, its quite humbling/infuriating to not see an ascension in 40 cards consistently. No idea why but i run consistently bad with any deck that ISNT control on modo. combo i whiff, digging for the ascension and missing (even missing counterspells) and ending up with 3 preordain, 2 foresee, 3 see beyond in the yard chilling out doing nothing.

Playing 26 land boros (before rotation). Hand of say, Plains, arid mesa, steppe lynx, plated geopede, elspeth, Cunning sparkmage, stoneforge mystic. and getting consistently mana screwed (which began an epic week of tilt and losing. run bad baby).

However with control, no problems on average. I'm a slave to blue. crap.
Bad beat stories ftw!


If you want frustration, try playing WW Relic. Waiting and waiting for a quest, only to have to play your creatures to chump more and more. Then, when you topdeck your quest you have exactly one memnite left in your hand or something. Almost makes me want to play goblins, it does.
Amateurish. Nearsighted. A waste of my time and everyone else's.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 20 2010 14:09 GMT
#191
On October 20 2010 22:40 Alak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 09:10 kefkalives wrote:
You can sac before damage. when you have priority before combat damage just sac the creature.

blah. been playing with pyromancer's ascension on modo, its quite humbling/infuriating to not see an ascension in 40 cards consistently. No idea why but i run consistently bad with any deck that ISNT control on modo. combo i whiff, digging for the ascension and missing (even missing counterspells) and ending up with 3 preordain, 2 foresee, 3 see beyond in the yard chilling out doing nothing.

Playing 26 land boros (before rotation). Hand of say, Plains, arid mesa, steppe lynx, plated geopede, elspeth, Cunning sparkmage, stoneforge mystic. and getting consistently mana screwed (which began an epic week of tilt and losing. run bad baby).

However with control, no problems on average. I'm a slave to blue. crap.
Bad beat stories ftw!


If you want frustration, try playing WW Relic. Waiting and waiting for a quest, only to have to play your creatures to chump more and more. Then, when you topdeck your quest you have exactly one memnite left in your hand or something. Almost makes me want to play goblins, it does.

Or, someone plays a turn 2 Ratchet Bomb, which basically guarantees a blowout against that deck, no matter what you do.
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MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
October 20 2010 17:50 GMT
#192
Played against my roommate's weird Naya ramp deck, we end up wailing on each other with lifelink creatures and have like 40+ life but I'm slowly coming out ahead thanks to Elspeth.

He plays Kozilek. I have no removal so I Mana Leak it. He gets his yard back, we continue the stalemate. 3 turns later he plays Kozilek again. I leak it again, he gets his yard back again. I'm digging for a Journey to Nowhere or something to deal with Kozilek if it comes up again.t. Kozilek comes out like 5 turns later while we're still stalled on board, I tap it down with Frost Titan till he plays a relevant threat and all I have is DoJ. I don't have leak, have to wrath the board when he burns out my titan. STILL waiting on my Journey while he gains like 60 life while I beat him down, he plays Kozilek AGAIN and it sticks this time =[
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
October 20 2010 20:15 GMT
#193
So a store near me had 6th Editions and Visions packs still...

Also were there any good cards out of Nemesis?
Get it by your hands...
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 20:21:46
October 20 2010 20:18 GMT
#194
On October 21 2010 05:15 Judicator wrote:
So a store near me had 6th Editions and Visions packs still...

Also were there any good cards out of Nemesis?

Daze is worth having around if you play Legacy.

In general, Merc. Masques was a pretty shitty block, redeemed only by a few format staples at the time (e.g. Blastoderm), and reprints of old goodies (Brainstorm).
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
October 20 2010 20:35 GMT
#195
On October 21 2010 05:18 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2010 05:15 Judicator wrote:
So a store near me had 6th Editions and Visions packs still...

Also were there any good cards out of Nemesis?

Daze is worth having around if you play Legacy.

In general, Merc. Masques was a pretty shitty block, redeemed only by a few format staples at the time (e.g. Blastoderm), and reprints of old goodies (Brainstorm).


Yeah, I remember Masques. Just couldn't remember most of the shit out of Nemesis...

What about Visions? I opened a few, didn't seem that great. Their lands were interesting though.
Get it by your hands...
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
October 21 2010 04:06 GMT
#196
I have been trying to set up magic workstation but I cannot seem to get the right "base". In the install guide it says that I need to update the master.msbase somehow but I don't see a download anywhere. http://mwsgames.com/index.php/MWS_Install_Guide
whenever I try to launch a game with the deck I made is says that the cards I have are not in the current base. Can anyone help me fix this?
I can already see the ending
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
October 21 2010 05:58 GMT
#197
On October 21 2010 13:06 DCLXVI wrote:
I have been trying to set up magic workstation but I cannot seem to get the right "base". In the install guide it says that I need to update the master.msbase somehow but I don't see a download anywhere. http://mwsgames.com/index.php/MWS_Install_Guide
whenever I try to launch a game with the deck I made is says that the cards I have are not in the current base. Can anyone help me fix this?


Go here for everything MWS. Follow this guide.
SeaweedToss
Profile Joined September 2010
17 Posts
October 22 2010 00:10 GMT
#198
I love the feeling of beating tier 1 and 2 $1,000 legacy counterbalance, painters, lands decks with my $40 8poxrack deck. It always makes me smile. If anyone is interested in playing on workstation or putting together a small legacy or casual tourny on there let me know. Id play for sure.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
October 22 2010 00:25 GMT
#199
there are plenty of good legacy decks under 100

I am putting together a LED-less Dredge deck.
Get it by your hands...
SeaweedToss
Profile Joined September 2010
17 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 01:12:03
October 22 2010 00:55 GMT
#200
idk about "plenty" that can actually compete with tier 1 and 2 decks though. pox, led-less dredge, elves, stompy, maybe burn, maybe high tide with no forces in the right meta, maybe some kind of budget storm deck. I cant think of any others under $100 off the top of my head that stand a real chance.

And some of these decks seem like rogue decks. I would say pox, led-less dredge, and maybe a storm deck are the few that would have good match ups all around. Especially in game 1.

and a budget storm list seems slow and a bit fragile though

decks like pox and led-less dredge can run at full power withought any expensive cards.
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