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lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
September 20 2010 20:22 GMT
#21
I am a huge halo fan and i dont really love this game. This game is just decent. The bloom is pretty stupid right now. the DMR just isnt as good as the BR. I played a crap load of mlg for halo 3 and was a 50 in the playlist. I know the game inside and out and this game is just too easy right now. I go into the playlist and anihilate everyone. I went 20-0 and only lost to a team of 4 of the best pros, neighbor, bestman, heinz and hysteria.

The rockets have a huge fucking range of explosion. The pistol doesnt have enough ammo. It needs 2 more bullets i think. Also we need to get rid of the stupid armor lock jet packing garbage lol.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
September 20 2010 20:44 GMT
#22
On September 21 2010 05:22 lightrise wrote:
I am a huge halo fan and i dont really love this game. This game is just decent. The bloom is pretty stupid right now. the DMR just isnt as good as the BR. I played a crap load of mlg for halo 3 and was a 50 in the playlist. I know the game inside and out and this game is just too easy right now. I go into the playlist and anihilate everyone. I went 20-0 and only lost to a team of 4 of the best pros, neighbor, bestman, heinz and hysteria.

The rockets have a huge fucking range of explosion. The pistol doesnt have enough ammo. It needs 2 more bullets i think. Also we need to get rid of the stupid armor lock jet packing garbage lol.

Aren't most of the good Halo 3 players going to keep playing Halo 3 until the current MLG pro circuit finishes?

And what do you mean by too easy? The skill ceiling is so low that there's no way to differentiate between top 100 players and top 500 players?
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Spiffeh
Profile Joined May 2010
United States830 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 21:19:07
September 20 2010 21:12 GMT
#23
One of the things I miss from Halo 2 is the high individual skill ceiling. With the maps they have out right now, as well as the low ammo capacity, I can't solo two guys with better aiming/nade use, let alone one.

In Halo 2, one dominant player was all it took to carry a team. Being that guy made the game *uber* fun.

Team shooting is great and all, but I think Reach puts too much emphasis on it. Like, c'mon, I'm a spartan, I lift up tanks, I think I can take on one or two people by myself if I need to.
DrN0
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom184 Posts
September 20 2010 21:13 GMT
#24
On September 21 2010 05:44 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 05:22 lightrise wrote:
I am a huge halo fan and i dont really love this game. This game is just decent. The bloom is pretty stupid right now. the DMR just isnt as good as the BR. I played a crap load of mlg for halo 3 and was a 50 in the playlist. I know the game inside and out and this game is just too easy right now. I go into the playlist and anihilate everyone. I went 20-0 and only lost to a team of 4 of the best pros, neighbor, bestman, heinz and hysteria.

The rockets have a huge fucking range of explosion. The pistol doesnt have enough ammo. It needs 2 more bullets i think. Also we need to get rid of the stupid armor lock jet packing garbage lol.

Aren't most of the good Halo 3 players going to keep playing Halo 3 until the current MLG pro circuit finishes?

And what do you mean by too easy? The skill ceiling is so low that there's no way to differentiate between top 100 players and top 500 players?


Wait are you saying the skill ceiling is low? because if so I agree with you, all the players are the same effectively its the teamwork that differentiates at the top level, becides I never considered any form of FPS that good for competitive play, especially halo which is great fun and no doubt has good players. But for me has always been social, if I were serious about any game it would have to be a 1v1 game, they seem to work better in competitive formats.
Pobearo
Profile Joined August 2009
United States351 Posts
September 20 2010 21:15 GMT
#25
I have no idea why, but I am absolutely addicted to Reach right now. I was a decent halo 3 player, I played mostly social and racked up about 5000 kills over the few years I played it. I have owned Reach for 6 days and I'm already at over 1000 multiplayer kills and have no desire to stop. Challenges, credits, the armory and other customisables are large pluses.

Loved the campaign.Love the multiplayer. Firefight is alright. Love the game in general.
AyeH
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States534 Posts
September 20 2010 21:33 GMT
#26
On September 21 2010 05:22 lightrise wrote:
I am a huge halo fan and i dont really love this game. This game is just decent. The bloom is pretty stupid right now. the DMR just isnt as good as the BR. I played a crap load of mlg for halo 3 and was a 50 in the playlist. I know the game inside and out and this game is just too easy right now. I go into the playlist and anihilate everyone. I went 20-0 and only lost to a team of 4 of the best pros, neighbor, bestman, heinz and hysteria.

The rockets have a huge fucking range of explosion. The pistol doesnt have enough ammo. It needs 2 more bullets i think. Also we need to get rid of the stupid armor lock jet packing garbage lol.


LOL! Heinz?! funny thing! i used to play with his brother fifty7 and him when he was still getting better. i used to help him do honors geometry rofl! i can't believe he went pro!!!!!! roflsauce
Is it in you?
Obscure
Profile Joined July 2008
United States272 Posts
September 20 2010 22:08 GMT
#27
On September 21 2010 06:13 DrN0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 05:44 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On September 21 2010 05:22 lightrise wrote:
I am a huge halo fan and i dont really love this game. This game is just decent. The bloom is pretty stupid right now. the DMR just isnt as good as the BR. I played a crap load of mlg for halo 3 and was a 50 in the playlist. I know the game inside and out and this game is just too easy right now. I go into the playlist and anihilate everyone. I went 20-0 and only lost to a team of 4 of the best pros, neighbor, bestman, heinz and hysteria.

The rockets have a huge fucking range of explosion. The pistol doesnt have enough ammo. It needs 2 more bullets i think. Also we need to get rid of the stupid armor lock jet packing garbage lol.

Aren't most of the good Halo 3 players going to keep playing Halo 3 until the current MLG pro circuit finishes?

And what do you mean by too easy? The skill ceiling is so low that there's no way to differentiate between top 100 players and top 500 players?


Wait are you saying the skill ceiling is low? because if so I agree with you, all the players are the same effectively its the teamwork that differentiates at the top level, becides I never considered any form of FPS that good for competitive play, especially halo which is great fun and no doubt has good players. But for me has always been social, if I were serious about any game it would have to be a 1v1 game, they seem to work better in competitive formats.


I really don't want to derail this thread, but posts like this really pain me. There is a little FPS game that starts with a Q that you might want to check out. Its been played professionally for over 10 years now and it has by far the highest skill ceiling of any FPS game ever, and it's 1v1.

Anyway, Reach is a solid game. While short, it's the best Halo campaign yet. Lots of fun playing multiplayer with friends and plenty of replayability (can tell Bungie, knowing this was their last Halo game, wanted people to be playing it for many years) too.

Finally I gotta say I'm glad Bungie is done with Halo. I'd hate to see their talent waste away iterating Halo games. Very interested in their new IP.
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge" - Daniel J. Boorstin
DrN0
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom184 Posts
September 20 2010 22:58 GMT
#28
I made a mistake in my wording I shouldnt have put, 'any form', but I was not thinking of quake I was thinking of team fps games. small distinction, either way my post should not 'pain' you, it was obvious I was not writing with quake in mind, it was just bad wording. Also I stand by my statement anyways. I dont think quake is even that good competitively, even if it does have the highest skill ceiling within a genre that doesnt make it a better competitive game than other games in different genres. I think FPS' will never be anything more than 2D gameplay. (figuratively) Muscle memory and awareness of the games features. But thats just me and for me, FPS are casual. And there is nothing wrong with that.
TymerA
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands759 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 23:13:27
September 20 2010 23:09 GMT
#29
On September 21 2010 05:12 DrN0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 04:23 TymerA wrote:
On September 21 2010 03:25 DrN0 wrote:
This game is epic, get your friends together and play a casual game of infection on the map reflection, we customised the version to be ninja infection which is actually ridiculously good fun. I might link it up, essientially no motion sensors and no tags to tell anyone where you are, you cant even tell if they are allies until you see they are holding a magnum not a sword. One zombie massive pace no evade, and a hell of a lot of OH SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII*****************t whenever you see a zombie. You have the magnum but its 2 bodyshots or one headshot for a kill, we have already invented our own prestige kills as a non infected you have roll, so a roll turn around headshot is a james bond a la the man with the golden gun. And if you manage to beat a zombie down, we call that a jason bourne. GOOOD TIMMMMMES, it has even stopped me from playing SC2.

Not to mention we are playing a lan with some horror music in the background no lights its gonna be siccccccccccck!


just a tip. make your posts contructive and readable.


Ha, it is pretty easy to understand, I wrote it in a rush, so yes the grammar wasn't perfect, but neither was yours. I see no capital letter, so if you are going to be picky do it right eh? As to constructive it is a 'serving suggestion'. Have you tried my game mode yet? Hmmmm. So next time you chose to write something about someone else's post make sure you aren't being hypocritical, as your post is hardly constructive is it?


look, i am sorry :p i just came back from a ladder lose streak and when i saw a post with HHHOOOOLLY SHIIIIIT i guess i felt i had the need to make a remark. And yea, i was a hypocrite for that so my apologies

Have fun at your lan!


Edit: hell yeah i know infection, favourite gametype in halo 3. Cops n Robbers, mongoose mania, warthog survival, anything involving low supply forts, you name it! :p

nice.
DrN0
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom184 Posts
September 21 2010 16:33 GMT
#30
Ah mate I love anyone who apologizes on the internet. You my friend are awesome
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
September 21 2010 17:17 GMT
#31
On September 21 2010 05:44 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 05:22 lightrise wrote:
I am a huge halo fan and i dont really love this game. This game is just decent. The bloom is pretty stupid right now. the DMR just isnt as good as the BR. I played a crap load of mlg for halo 3 and was a 50 in the playlist. I know the game inside and out and this game is just too easy right now. I go into the playlist and anihilate everyone. I went 20-0 and only lost to a team of 4 of the best pros, neighbor, bestman, heinz and hysteria.

The rockets have a huge fucking range of explosion. The pistol doesnt have enough ammo. It needs 2 more bullets i think. Also we need to get rid of the stupid armor lock jet packing garbage lol.

Aren't most of the good Halo 3 players going to keep playing Halo 3 until the current MLG pro circuit finishes?

And what do you mean by too easy? The skill ceiling is so low that there's no way to differentiate between top 100 players and top 500 players?


That complaint was identical to when Halo 3 hit the market... and the same when Halo 2 hit initially. In the end, people will continue to play it, but some top players will drop off because too many people are getting too good at the game too easily.

Each game has gotten progressively easier, Halo 2 took like 0 skill to hit people with the sniper (still took skill in sweep shooting, and timing between BR shots). Halo 3... well... Halo 3 I gave up on pretty quickly...for a variety of reasons. /the sniper simply didn't work well at all.. I have a video of a guy getting shot in the head four times by my friend, all of them went through his head... I happened to get spawned near him, so I walked up behind to assassinate him, and got hit with one of the bullets that went through the guys head, and did not kill him... that happened more times than I care to remember. On top of that my friends are fags and refused to play MLG game types, so we always got stuck in games with gay spawn rotations that killed the idea of map control, and they'd cry and cry, but never switch to MLG... morons.

But whatever. The point is, that same complaint has been made with every iteration of Halo.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
AyeH
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States534 Posts
September 22 2010 01:53 GMT
#32
I think halo still takes a lot of practice to be very good. It's the same reason korean gamers are good at starcraft, because they train hard and work hard. You can't just get good by playing matchmaking here and there, you have to put hours and hours into it to become really good.
Is it in you?
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
September 22 2010 03:42 GMT
#33
On September 22 2010 10:53 Dr3w wrote:
I think halo still takes a lot of practice to be very good. It's the same reason korean gamers are good at starcraft, because they train hard and work hard. You can't just get good by playing matchmaking here and there, you have to put hours and hours into it to become really good.


Well yeah, no doubt. There was a plethora of reasons I quit Halo 3... and I pretty much quit gaming entirely at that time. It could be bias on my part, and where I wanted to go with my life at that time, so my memories of Halo 3 are bad (I was level 45+ in all the game types I played at one point)... but I doubt that, considering the amount of people I know that gave up on Halo some time after Halo 3 came out.. most of them said it was too newb friendly. But most of my friends that hated Halo 2, hated it because it was easier than CE.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
September 22 2010 08:52 GMT
#34
Ok
Tyler: Yes all of the pros are actually required to play out the rest of the season for halo 3 because of their contracts with the league. On the other hand all the pro combines have switched to reach and the next season of MLG has already switched to Reach...so those players will switch over whether they want to or not.

The skill ceiling is still up in the air at this point imo. You cant judge crap yet because the mlg playlists and settings have not come out yet. Nothing is competitive yet and the maps havent been established. When the real mapmakers get to work and we dont have to play bungie maps with horrible weapon spawns and such we will see how the game goes.

Overall when i said the game was too easy i meant i dont lose when i search matchmaking. I just dont lose at all period haha. Thats what i mean by the game is too easy. The games are not close so the skill level is not equal. I have many clips i recorded where i embarrass some kid when im one shot and i 5 shot him hahaha. But yeah they need to just get some competative playlists where you could play some high lvl people consistently. Its like playing social slayer over and over against the worst kids possible. It would be like an established A- player getting matched against D alllllll the time.

But yeah Sweetlemons halo 3 was actually a really good game at the high lvl, but not as great as halo 2. Reach i think is going to be lower then all the halos, but it will still be the flagship game for MLG
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Chained
Profile Joined February 2010
United States137 Posts
September 22 2010 09:10 GMT
#35
^^ Ever consider that you are playing a brand new VERY popular game?

It has new players plus new players that are coming from MW2

I was mediocre AT BEST at halo3, and there are games where I am just going crazy.

I think the skill ceiling will be just fine. Controlling the bloom will just be another factor pros can will be able to do in their sleep while I struggle.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
September 22 2010 16:19 GMT
#36
I got it a week ago, and I've barely done anything else. It's my favorite Halo campaign I think. Because it actually feels like a war. You're part of a team--no, an entire army, fighting to defend Reach. You're not just the one guy destroying everyone by himself. And they made the multiplayer a lot better (though I hate the DMR). The map pool could be better, but it'll improve over time.
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
September 22 2010 18:54 GMT
#37
On September 22 2010 17:52 lightrise wrote:
Ok
Tyler: Yes all of the pros are actually required to play out the rest of the season for halo 3 because of their contracts with the league. On the other hand all the pro combines have switched to reach and the next season of MLG has already switched to Reach...so those players will switch over whether they want to or not.

The skill ceiling is still up in the air at this point imo. You cant judge crap yet because the mlg playlists and settings have not come out yet. Nothing is competitive yet and the maps havent been established. When the real mapmakers get to work and we dont have to play bungie maps with horrible weapon spawns and such we will see how the game goes.

Overall when i said the game was too easy i meant i dont lose when i search matchmaking. I just dont lose at all period haha. Thats what i mean by the game is too easy. The games are not close so the skill level is not equal. I have many clips i recorded where i embarrass some kid when im one shot and i 5 shot him hahaha. But yeah they need to just get some competative playlists where you could play some high lvl people consistently. Its like playing social slayer over and over against the worst kids possible. It would be like an established A- player getting matched against D alllllll the time.

But yeah Sweetlemons halo 3 was actually a really good game at the high lvl, but not as great as halo 2. Reach i think is going to be lower then all the halos, but it will still be the flagship game for MLG


That's too bad. I hope you're wrong, because I'm somewhat looking to get back into the game, and hopefully the MLG scene (I'll find a new group to play with, if needed). It's fucked up, my friends actually say "that's retarded what MLG does, we should play it the way Bungie intended for it to be played," which is like... the worst argument for anything I've ever heard in my life. But whatever, I hope you're wrong.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
September 23 2010 12:31 GMT
#38
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On September 23 2010 03:54 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2010 17:52 lightrise wrote:
Ok
Tyler: Yes all of the pros are actually required to play out the rest of the season for halo 3 because of their contracts with the league. On the other hand all the pro combines have switched to reach and the next season of MLG has already switched to Reach...so those players will switch over whether they want to or not.

The skill ceiling is still up in the air at this point imo. You cant judge crap yet because the mlg playlists and settings have not come out yet. Nothing is competitive yet and the maps havent been established. When the real mapmakers get to work and we dont have to play bungie maps with horrible weapon spawns and such we will see how the game goes.

Overall when i said the game was too easy i meant i dont lose when i search matchmaking. I just dont lose at all period haha. Thats what i mean by the game is too easy. The games are not close so the skill level is not equal. I have many clips i recorded where i embarrass some kid when im one shot and i 5 shot him hahaha. But yeah they need to just get some competative playlists where you could play some high lvl people consistently. Its like playing social slayer over and over against the worst kids possible. It would be like an established A- player getting matched against D alllllll the time.

But yeah Sweetlemons halo 3 was actually a really good game at the high lvl, but not as great as halo 2. Reach i think is going to be lower then all the halos, but it will still be the flagship game for MLG


That's too bad. I hope you're wrong, because I'm somewhat looking to get back into the game, and hopefully the MLG scene (I'll find a new group to play with, if needed). It's fucked up, my friends actually say "that's retarded what MLG does, we should play it the way Bungie intended for it to be played," which is like... the worst argument for anything I've ever heard in my life. But whatever, I hope you're wrong.



Its going to all come down to what the pros think of the game and what the mapmakers do with the new forge to be honest. Also we hope that Bungie makes one or 2 good maps that could be used for the mlg playlist. Its also going to be interesting what the pros decide to go with for weapons because a few pros are saying they like the consistency of a 6 shot from the needle rifle more then the 5-8shot dmr.
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Zapperkhan
Profile Joined October 2008
United States436 Posts
September 23 2010 12:35 GMT
#39
That's weird about the needle rifle, feels like auto aim is a lot more prevalent in Reach in regards to the DMR. That or most don't know how to control the recoil. Although I'm no pro, but I've had a bunch of headshots that should have been body shots or complete misses.
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
September 23 2010 12:41 GMT
#40
The map pool is so small and bad... Anway I'd love to get some custom games going!

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