So I just installed Baldur's Gate II - Page 78

On December 17 2014 02:01 OsaX Nymloth wrote:


Actually I would advice trying to go for some... challenge in Icewind Dale!

Start in Heart of Fury mode. From lvl 1. Solo.

It's 100% possible, super hard especially at the beginning, but damn if it's not fun :D

On December 17 2014 09:42 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
I recently read about the IWD EE release and finally decided to play all these classic RPG games; BG1&2, IWD1&2 and NWN1&2.

So to start things of I read a little bit about the different classes and their strength and weaknesses in guides and forums.
I always heard BG was the best RPG of all time and so forth but it turns out all class discussions basically assume you are a hardcore powergamer and you will play the most gifted übermensch sterotypical archetype character with max strength, dexterity, constitution and maybe a forth stat too.

OK whatever I thought, I will just disregard all that and create my own realistic character that I can actually roleplay. However I had immense difficulty creating my character because the class system is so restrictive and almost forces you to make gimped unrealistic archetype characters. You want to roleplay a Barbarian that is quite intelligent and wise? Well it seems there is almost no benefit at all in the game mechanics for a Barbarian to have any intelligence or wisdom...Oh and apparently in all his years in the wildernis he never had to hunt either because he never learned to sneak and somehow will never be able to learn it. It makes absolutely no sense to me.

I ended up creating a Human shapeshifter druid that is standing in front of the gates of Baldurs Gate right now and has explored most of the territories outside of it.

The game is still fun, I like the complexity and amount of abilities and spells and exploring the world and of course finding nice loot. Some areas are really lovely like the Gnoll stronghold or the halfling village. The story so far seems to be okay, too.
As a roleplaying game however I think Arcanum or Morrowind/TES are far superior because in those games it actually makes sense to create relateable and realistic characters that you can roleplay and you don't have nonsensical rules and restrictions that really break immersion and hinder roleplaying.

On December 18 2014 00:39 -Archangel- wrote:

I made another party made of 3 people and started them at lvl 1 in HoF mode. It took me a long time and was a lot of fun for a while but I got bored and stoped playing when they were around lvl 13. Each fight is a grind and you need to use summons because your own character got no chance to kill anything or tank. Most spells are useless and CC spells rarely work.
Due to how summons are also boosted in HoF only they are worth the spell slot.
After a while even summons become less and less effective and you need to cast many summons to kill smaller numbers of enemies and rest after every middle size encounter so you can unload most of your summons on next encounters and IWD is full of very similar encounters. It is very soon pure boredom, just a grind.

I got a lvl 13 druid (avenger) that has access to best summons and even they die fast and don't last longer then one mid size encounter.

On December 17 2014 19:01 Hoenicker wrote:



Its been a while, so my memory is a bit foggy, but I believe you can dual class barbarian to thief (if your race is human). That would allow him to sneak (and back stab), and you could role play him as you want. Generally, dual classing is very powerful in BG, especially in BGII.

On April 24 2015 20:01 SF-Fork wrote:
I don't mind about the installation. I was wondering about the game quality.

On April 26 2015 05:42 Ghost151 wrote:
use EasyTutu for BG1 (search at thegribberlings3). It's a standalone install that will let you import right into BG2 when you're done and doesn't touch anything in your BG1 or BG2 folders if you feel like modding BG2 later or want to keep a vanilla experience around for either game. It's also compatible with most BG2 mods (since it is technically an installation of BG2) without shoving content down your throat as a cash grab like the EE.

The reason you only find support for ETT and not the EE is because Tutu was made by the modding community for the community (and EasyTutu is a streamlined, packaged version of it that incorporates many bugfixes) but they treat Beamdog's cash-in with scorn. Some people are downright hostile about it, but it begs the question why you would even pay money for free optional content you can find anywhere and add it yourself. As questionable as the quality of many fan mods are, it seems kind of stupid to charge for it. EE adds a nice interface, I'll give it that, but everything else it does can be done for free, even the multiplayer (just use gameranger). I have also heard some not so nice things about their QC division pertaining to patches and support, which might be relevant to your Sword Coast Stratagems issues.