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TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
December 17 2012 09:07 GMT
#6621
After playing to lvl 60ish on my Ranger i got bored of GW2. Haven't played for a few months. Started up a Norn Elementalist, going dagger/dagger ultra aoe build and tearing shit up! :D Love the build!
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
ryndaris
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
263 Posts
December 17 2012 09:09 GMT
#6622
On December 17 2012 18:07 TOCHMY wrote:
After playing to lvl 60ish on my Ranger i got bored of GW2. Haven't played for a few months. Started up a Norn Elementalist, going dagger/dagger ultra aoe build and tearing shit up! :D Love the build!


Dagger/Dagger ultra-AoE? Glad to hear you're enjoying the game, but as one elementalist to another... keep a staff handy anyway. Just in case.
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
December 17 2012 10:24 GMT
#6623
On December 17 2012 18:09 ryndaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 18:07 TOCHMY wrote:
After playing to lvl 60ish on my Ranger i got bored of GW2. Haven't played for a few months. Started up a Norn Elementalist, going dagger/dagger ultra aoe build and tearing shit up! :D Love the build!


Dagger/Dagger ultra-AoE? Glad to hear you're enjoying the game, but as one elementalist to another... keep a staff handy anyway. Just in case.


Yes! Always keeping one of each in the inventory.

I jump in with fire, put down the aoe spell Ring of Fire, switch to earth, quickly use Earth Quake and Arcane Wave, popping the combo finisher Blast (i dunno if it works for both? or if the ring of fire disappears after the first blast? To me it feels like both earth quake and arcane wave pop the blast combofinisher). If any1 still alive, i pop Churning Earth, exploiting the fact that the enemies are knocked down by Earth Quake. Enemies usually get one hit off by then, but I got Mist Form to save me if it turns south.

Now, I'm only lvl 19 so i dunno how well this applies at higher lvls, and what the 3d utility spell would be. I'm thinking Energy Shield or Armor of Earth. Probably Tornado for Elite skill.

What do you think Ryndaris?
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2613 Posts
December 17 2012 11:09 GMT
#6624
Wanted to play again, haven't noticed the authenticationrequests from china....now my account is terminated :/
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
ryndaris
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
263 Posts
December 17 2012 14:20 GMT
#6625
On December 17 2012 19:24 TOCHMY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 18:09 ryndaris wrote:
On December 17 2012 18:07 TOCHMY wrote:
After playing to lvl 60ish on my Ranger i got bored of GW2. Haven't played for a few months. Started up a Norn Elementalist, going dagger/dagger ultra aoe build and tearing shit up! :D Love the build!


Dagger/Dagger ultra-AoE? Glad to hear you're enjoying the game, but as one elementalist to another... keep a staff handy anyway. Just in case.


Yes! Always keeping one of each in the inventory.

I jump in with fire, put down the aoe spell Ring of Fire, switch to earth, quickly use Earth Quake and Arcane Wave, popping the combo finisher Blast (i dunno if it works for both? or if the ring of fire disappears after the first blast? To me it feels like both earth quake and arcane wave pop the blast combofinisher). If any1 still alive, i pop Churning Earth, exploiting the fact that the enemies are knocked down by Earth Quake. Enemies usually get one hit off by then, but I got Mist Form to save me if it turns south.

Now, I'm only lvl 19 so i dunno how well this applies at higher lvls, and what the 3d utility spell would be. I'm thinking Energy Shield or Armor of Earth. Probably Tornado for Elite skill.

What do you think Ryndaris?


I haven't played all that much with D/D on my Ele. I do remember though, around level 60, I was bored with the staff and tried out D/D and S/D to mix things up... but it didn't end all that well, by then I was fighting a lot of Risen and the whole thing turned out to be quite an ordeal. Switched back to staff very quickly.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
December 17 2012 17:35 GMT
#6626
On December 17 2012 20:09 gTank wrote:
Wanted to play again, haven't noticed the authenticationrequests from china....now my account is terminated :/


How is the support when things happens to your account? I remember wow support was really great, a quick phonecall would have my account up and running in no time, no matter what the issue was.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 17 2012 19:20 GMT
#6627
I keep coming back to this game, hoping they change the fact that D/D is just the way to go on Thieves for PvP.
I like S/P so much more but the damage is shit
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
December 18 2012 07:49 GMT
#6628
On December 17 2012 23:20 ryndaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 19:24 TOCHMY wrote:
On December 17 2012 18:09 ryndaris wrote:
On December 17 2012 18:07 TOCHMY wrote:
After playing to lvl 60ish on my Ranger i got bored of GW2. Haven't played for a few months. Started up a Norn Elementalist, going dagger/dagger ultra aoe build and tearing shit up! :D Love the build!


Dagger/Dagger ultra-AoE? Glad to hear you're enjoying the game, but as one elementalist to another... keep a staff handy anyway. Just in case.


Yes! Always keeping one of each in the inventory.

I jump in with fire, put down the aoe spell Ring of Fire, switch to earth, quickly use Earth Quake and Arcane Wave, popping the combo finisher Blast (i dunno if it works for both? or if the ring of fire disappears after the first blast? To me it feels like both earth quake and arcane wave pop the blast combofinisher). If any1 still alive, i pop Churning Earth, exploiting the fact that the enemies are knocked down by Earth Quake. Enemies usually get one hit off by then, but I got Mist Form to save me if it turns south.

Now, I'm only lvl 19 so i dunno how well this applies at higher lvls, and what the 3d utility spell would be. I'm thinking Energy Shield or Armor of Earth. Probably Tornado for Elite skill.

What do you think Ryndaris?


I haven't played all that much with D/D on my Ele. I do remember though, around level 60, I was bored with the staff and tried out D/D and S/D to mix things up... but it didn't end all that well, by then I was fighting a lot of Risen and the whole thing turned out to be quite an ordeal. Switched back to staff very quickly.


I'm level 24 now and this build is doing surprisingly well!

I have no trouble at all soloing packs of 5 and the wintersday boxes. I modified the course of action a bit, still jumping in with ring of fire, switching to earth, Earthquake, Arcane Wave and start loading up Churning Earth. When the mobs get back from the stun of Earthquake, use Signet of Agility (!), you can use it while channeling Churning Earth. Enemies should be dead now or die soon after from the bleeds. If not, just finish them of with air/frost

Love the build!
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
December 18 2012 08:03 GMT
#6629
On December 18 2012 04:20 Noocta wrote:
I keep coming back to this game, hoping they change the fact that D/D is just the way to go on Thieves for PvP.
I like S/P so much more but the damage is shit


I still like my bow bleed build on thief, even more now when they locked utilities in tourneys. Now the mesmers and shiat have to decide if they take their condi removal utis before they see what kind of thief I'm playing. Also other thieves are 0 problem for the build.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2613 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 15:29:52
December 18 2012 15:28 GMT
#6630
On December 18 2012 02:35 crappen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 20:09 gTank wrote:
Wanted to play again, haven't noticed the authenticationrequests from china....now my account is terminated :/


How is the support when things happens to your account? I remember wow support was really great, a quick phonecall would have my account up and running in no time, no matter what the issue was.


I was able to play the next day :D
The support needed some info but then I could play. My ingame inbox was full of crap though :/
This game is prettier than I remembered, back then I couldn't play because of lag and Server issues.


edit: basically I did this: hacked account: a guidehttps://en.support.guildwars2.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/9212

Now I have linked my account to an authenticator.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
December 18 2012 22:19 GMT
#6631
I stopped playing again for the 2nd time. I just get bored of grinding the map. I think the reason I dont enjoy this game that much is because of two main reasons: 1. In other MMO's or RPGS every level is important to me because theres skills I want to get or abilities I want to use, at lvl 45 Ive pretty much got every ability unlocked and the passive skill tree they have in place seems boring. Also I would always get excited about finding new weapons or gear but all the gear ive gotten up to lvl 45 is plain and boring. Just because they dont emphasize on gear grinding doesnt mean I cant get excited about rares I find along the way. In other games I would find a sick weapon and say ' oh man ! Im going to make a build around this or Im going to respec just for this weapon'. the 2nd or 3rd reason is because all the way to 45 I only grouped up 2 or 3 times for instances which werent very rewarding.
marconi
Profile Joined March 2010
Croatia220 Posts
December 18 2012 22:50 GMT
#6632
people fail to realize that gw2 is primarily based on pvp. pve is secondary, and I don't mind that. If you wanna grind, go play wow or one of the other 1 million grinding mmos out there.
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
December 19 2012 03:43 GMT
#6633
It seems that youre implying that the devs didnt care as much as PvE as they did for PvP so thats the reason why everyone "failed" at thinking GW2 would have a full filling PvE experience. Silly people... didnt see that all those video's talking about pve was secondary.

Seems like a sorry excuse that your putting in their mouth because never once did they try to give that impression.
ryndaris
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
263 Posts
December 19 2012 08:18 GMT
#6634
On December 19 2012 07:50 marconi wrote:
people fail to realize that gw2 is primarily based on pvp. pve is secondary, and I don't mind that. If you wanna grind, go play wow or one of the other 1 million grinding mmos out there.


I don't think that's true at all. That might have been the impression before the game's release, but right now PvP definitely feels lacking compared to PvE. WvW is a joke (pure zerg-fest) and structured seems to be fading away, at least as far as top-tier competition is concerned. Overall I'd say the vast majority of the playerbase is focused on PvE right now.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
December 19 2012 08:31 GMT
#6635
On December 19 2012 17:18 ryndaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 07:50 marconi wrote:
people fail to realize that gw2 is primarily based on pvp. pve is secondary, and I don't mind that. If you wanna grind, go play wow or one of the other 1 million grinding mmos out there.


I don't think that's true at all. That might have been the impression before the game's release, but right now PvP definitely feels lacking compared to PvE. WvW is a joke (pure zerg-fest) and structured seems to be fading away, at least as far as top-tier competition is concerned. Overall I'd say the vast majority of the playerbase is focused on PvE right now.


And when you say focused on PvE you mean grinding items for legendaries so they use them in WvWvW. Because theres absolutely nothing to work for in this game endgame wise. All PvE content is do-able in sub-par gear and the only lasting thing to do is PvP or explore everything.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
December 19 2012 08:48 GMT
#6636
gw2 = biggest disappointment of 2012 for sure
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9582 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 09:07:55
December 19 2012 08:55 GMT
#6637
On December 19 2012 17:48 deth wrote:
gw2 = biggest disappointment of 2012 for sure


Really? A lot of people seem to forget they paid 60$ for it, and not a penny more. For those 60$ they got 100-200-300 or even more hours of entertainment out of the game, while many more are still playing.
I think it was worth every penny I paid for it, and only BW and Dota2 come close to the level of entertainment I got, for this amount of money.
Sure end game could be improved since it's either karma farm, gold farm, legendary farm, ZvZ or sPvP (since noone ever runs dungeons anymore) but the journey there was AWESOME.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
December 19 2012 09:49 GMT
#6638
And the circlejerk continues ... I get more and more stupid each pages this thread grows.
ryndaris
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
263 Posts
December 19 2012 11:57 GMT
#6639
On December 19 2012 17:55 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 17:48 deth wrote:
gw2 = biggest disappointment of 2012 for sure


Really? A lot of people seem to forget they paid 60$ for it, and not a penny more. For those 60$ they got 100-200-300 or even more hours of entertainment out of the game, while many more are still playing.
I think it was worth every penny I paid for it, and only BW and Dota2 come close to the level of entertainment I got, for this amount of money.
Sure end game could be improved since it's either karma farm, gold farm, legendary farm, ZvZ or sPvP (since noone ever runs dungeons anymore) but the journey there was AWESOME.


I paid 60$ as well as 20$ for bank slots/etc. during the initial Trading Post downtime. I'd say I had 60-70 hours tops of actual fun with the game (Ele 'till 40, Warr 'till 30) with the rest of my /age spent trying to find some aspect of the game that I'd enjoy. I failed and I don't see myself playing GW2 ever again, unless the game undergoes drastic changes in terms of gameplay development direction. Unfortunately that is extremely unlikely and if I were able to get a refund on GW2 I'd take it in a heartbeat, because GW2 was hands down the worst purchase I made this year (maybe ever, in terms of video games) - this doesn't mean I think it's the year's worst game, but it was a huge disappointment for me personally and the worst game that I bought. I paid 60$ for my copy of Skyrim more than a year ago - I played it for 250 hours and it's still going strong. Dota2 is free (spent ~30$ in the store) - 500 hours and counting. I spent 40$ on LoL and while I don't have an accurate /played time, it's at least ~150 hours - and I'm going to keep playing it for god knows how long. SW:ToR was 60$ + 1 month's subscription: had fun, was somewhat disappointed by the end, but I didn't regret the purchase at all. This is what makes GW2 stand out from other games I've bought for me - regretting spending ANY money on it. Playing it didn't give me any unique experiences or satisfaction, nor does it have any future prospects. I could have spent the time I played GW2 playing Dota2/LoL/Skyrim and I wouldn't have missed a single thing, while spending money on games that are actually enjoyable.

Honestly I'm really tired of the "but you got X hours of gameplay out of this product!" argument. I don't buy games to spend X amount of time playing them. I buy games because I want to have fun playing them - this is the bottom line. If I spend 100 hours playing a game searching for the promised XYZ which turn out to be nothing more than the most vaporous of hype those 100 hours are worthless to me, whereas 30 hours of an engaging story/satisfying gameplay are easily worth 60$.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
December 19 2012 12:05 GMT
#6640
@ryndaris : Given the numerous free beta tests, I don't know how you could have mistaken the game for anything else than it is. The design of the game was clear from the get-go : WvW unlimited content, PvP, and a single-player campaign in a permanent world where end-game doesn't exist. What were you expecting honestly ?

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