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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 09 2013 05:03 crbox wrote: Downloading the game right now, looks really nice. What server is the TL guild in, Valley of Titan like OP states? As far as I know, VoT is kind of.... dead. You should aim for MT for pvp server or TR for pve server. if you are rolling on TR let me know. | ||
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Laneir
United States1160 Posts
On August 08 2013 13:01 Sufficiency wrote: QQQQQQ Priests so OP in Skyring. God I am so frustrated... why didn't I just pvp with priest instead. It'll be a long road before I can get ranked, I guess. Oh please. If someone can clear MCHM, can clear KN20, they have left already. Don't embarrass the team liquid community please. No, just because someone has queenslayer does not mean they can "clear" it. A month ago, you advertised for recruitment claiming that Liquid can clear KN20, but of course... you can only bring them to a trap run after all your new recruits pushing you to do it. Coinstar's static couldn't take it anymore and left. Can Liquid clear KN20 now? Don't make me laugh. Btw, you are doing it again claiming your guild can clear all contents.... please for the love of god, STOP THE LIES. By the way, the whole KN20 business was really your fault. Lunarsky can clear it, why can't you? I think Liquid is comparable to Lunarsky in terms of players. There must be something going on there. And for the love of god please do not use *that* lancer nor *that* archer as "proof" that Liquid can clear MCHM/KN20. A lot of players can fall under such impression seeing full VM/Mayhems. Also, what community? All your core players left except Locoski. Aris, in particular, was extremely disappointed in your failures to hold the guild together. You can't really expect to hold up the guild when you have no ability to help other guildies to progress. The entire server knows about Crimson Reign and Liquid being the ghetto guilds of the server. Please, stop the lies and stop being an embarrassment to the real team liquid community. Look, it's easy. Just take off the damned pony icon and change it to something else. So according to him we are a fake guild that doesnt clear yet all our players are finishing KN20 with mayham gear we do MCHM clears idk what other content is not being cleared? And ontop of that we made top 5 guild to join for Upcoming Alliance patch. Lmao sounds like somebody mad. Anyways to anybody coming to TR the guild is Liquid its the community guild site for the server if your interested by all mean pm me or anybody in guild let them know your fromt he site there a bunch of sc fans in there and mmo players. Check the Link at the bottom for the alliance info that came out were at the bottom  . Thx guys dont mind the rage of Sufficiency. Oh and players leave all the time i dont have to lie about what i say my players represent the guild and so do i. And we act and play in the most professional manner in game. http://tera.enmasse.com/alliance | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 10 2013 12:26 Laneir wrote: So according to him we are a fake guild that doesnt clear yet all our players are finishing KN20 with mayham gear we do MCHM clears idk what other content is not being cleared? And ontop of that we made top 5 guild to join for Upcoming Alliance patch. Lmao sounds like somebody mad. Anyways to anybody coming to TR the guild is Liquid its the community guild site for the server if your interested by all mean pm me or anybody in guild let them know your fromt he site there a bunch of sc fans in there and mmo players. Check the Link at the bottom for the alliance info that came out were at the bottom . Thx guys dont mind the rage of Sufficiency. Oh and players leave all the time i dont have to lie about what i say my players represent the guild and so do i. And we act and play in the most professional manner in game. http://tera.enmasse.com/alliance Then enlighten me with a KN20 with at least 15 Liquid members. Do it. Seriously, just do it. Lunarsky can, Renaissance can, what about you? You can't. It's so easy to see. Some players, like Mystlestainn and Tama, do pug with other guilds' runs - occasionally with Triad and Lunarsky - and you are taking credit for these runs, essentially. EME decided to feature you, sure, good for you, but you need to stop spreading lies about what Liquid can do. | ||
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Laneir
United States1160 Posts
On August 10 2013 16:06 Sufficiency wrote: Then enlighten me with a KN20 with at least 15 Liquid members. Do it. Seriously, just do it. Lunarsky can, Renaissance can, what about you? You can't. It's so easy to see. Some players, like Mystlestainn and Tama, do pug with other guilds' runs - occasionally with Triad and Lunarsky - and you are taking credit for these runs, essentially. EME decided to feature you, sure, good for you, but you need to stop spreading lies about what Liquid can do. Lol idk why your so mad about this. But to humor you we do run with other guild we do half runs with other guilds, like anime and ageis. But i mean you seem to know everything about the guild considering you not even in there. If your not in the liquid there should be no place for you to talk. Other than that im done discussing this subject with you. The Team Liquid Guild is doing well were up and running, and we always welcome more players from the TL community to join us. Have a great one remember if you come to TR pst me or Mystlestainn, or X.Derp.X or Lord.Nightmarekiller. Thx everybody for there cont support. See you guys in game. | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
Unless you can clear content with every raid member being from Liquid then no you can't clear content. Unless you receive help from people who can. Just my 2 cents. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 11 2013 01:23 Laneir wrote: Lol idk why your so mad about this. But to humor you we do run with other guild we do half runs with other guilds, like anime and ageis. But i mean you seem to know everything about the guild considering you not even in there. If your not in the liquid there should be no place for you to talk. Other than that im done discussing this subject with you. The Team Liquid Guild is doing well were up and running, and we always welcome more players from the TL community to join us. Have a great one remember if you come to TR pst me or Mystlestainn, or X.Derp.X or Lord.Nightmarekiller. Thx everybody for there cont support. See you guys in game. You see, if Liquid can actually "clear" KN20 raid, Mystle should have most of the Mayhem now, and Lord.Nightmarekiller should not need to pay 100k+ to buy his Mayhem parts from other guilds. When you advertise that the GUILD CAN CLEAR KN20, it is understood by most reasonable people that this means the raid is conducted mostly by Liquid members. Like Disengaged said, you can't take credits for what your guildies can occasionally get pugged in for other guilds' runs. That's not clearing as a guild - that's the specific merits of a single member (in fact you can't even call that, because often a single pug will just get carried in the raid). | ||
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ZoW
United States3983 Posts
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Wala.Revolution
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 11 2013 16:16 Wala.Revolution wrote: My active friend list and online guild members are shrinking =( Buy me a server transfer and I will play on mt :p | ||
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mistermichael
United States42 Posts
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GARO
United States2255 Posts
On August 12 2013 02:52 mistermichael wrote: I played Tera all throughout beta but couldn't play after release due to school. I'm thinking about picking it back up again, but I'm still a little skeptical about it. Any important tips for a noob? Is there alot to do endgame? Thanks guys! There is a new 'content' patch out next week, lol. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 12 2013 02:52 mistermichael wrote: I played Tera all throughout beta but couldn't play after release due to school. I'm thinking about picking it back up again, but I'm still a little skeptical about it. Any important tips for a noob? Is there alot to do endgame? Thanks guys! Play a Priest. You are welcome. | ||
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TJ31
630 Posts
On August 11 2013 16:16 Wala.Revolution wrote: My active friend list and online guild members are shrinking =( Nothing to do in game since... too long. Alliance patch won't fix it too. New pvp set is worse than conjunct, plus it's not upgradable to CJv2 later on, those new skill boosts doesnt work in 3v3 or BGs and to farm thousands of them for pve, which is easy anyway... no thanks. Exarch and other politics is not for 95% of the player base as well, not only you need to play A LOT to achieve that, but that's also pretty pointless and boring. So whole new patch wont hold people's interest for more than 2-3 weeks at best. Personally I'm interested only in new jewelry (when i'll have time to play more though). Next patch seems more fun though, new equip sets, new instances. PvP version of VMv2 will take a while to farm (need like 160k ks points if I'm not wrong). Honestly I think Tera's servers are not empty yet (and won't be in a foreseeable future) because there's nothing else to play at all. Zombie mmos aka WoW, L2 and EQ2, some unreal f2p crap like NW MMO and that's it. Even upcoming FFXIV v2 won't affect Tera much, it's still very slow game even after a complete revamp. Personally I just can't play it for more than 30 mins before falling asleep, was the same with FFXI too. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 12 2013 07:22 TJ31 wrote: Nothing to do in game since... too long. Alliance patch won't fix it too. New pvp set is worse than conjunct, plus it's not upgradable to CJv2 later on, those new skill boosts doesnt work in 3v3 or BGs and to farm thousands of them for pve, which is easy anyway... no thanks. Exarch and other politics is not for 95% of the player base as well, not only you need to play A LOT to achieve that, but that's also pretty pointless and boring. So whole new patch wont hold people's interest for more than 2-3 weeks at best. Personally I'm interested only in new jewelry (when i'll have time to play more though). Next patch seems more fun though, new equip sets, new instances. PvP version of VMv2 will take a while to farm (need like 160k ks points if I'm not wrong). Honestly I think Tera's servers are not empty yet (and won't be in a foreseeable future) because there's nothing else to play at all. Zombie mmos aka WoW, L2 and EQ2, some unreal f2p crap like NW MMO and that's it. Even upcoming FFXIV v2 won't affect Tera much, it's still very slow game even after a complete revamp. Personally I just can't play it for more than 30 mins before falling asleep, was the same with FFXI too. Yea. I am just waiting for blade and soul at this moment. are we sure alliance gear are pvp, not pvpve? If they are pvpve like vm (but weaker stats) I think they will still be really good. | ||
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TJ31
630 Posts
On August 12 2013 12:22 Sufficiency wrote: Yea. I am just waiting for blade and soul at this moment. are we sure alliance gear are pvp, not pvpve? If they are pvpve like vm (but weaker stats) I think they will still be really good. I believe it's a pure pvp set, which should be very (VERY) easy to get. Non MW +9 it's actually worse than FW+9, but when +12, it should be slightly worse than CJ. But with new BG and CS dailies.. everyone have CJ, unless they don't do any pvp at all. Also I don't think new set is easy to MW like Mayhem, so it will be a total waste of money to bother with it, when you can have conjunct which will be upgradable to ruthless conjunct later on. PvE sets are not worth bothering atm too, though. Unless you play a lot or have too many cash to spend. Adonis set from the next patch will be better than current VM, easy to MW and it's solo farmable. Quills will have 100% drop rate, and argon vitriol will come from some new boxes that drops in the new instances (I think). | ||
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Dismay
United States1180 Posts
And how big a dive is it to get decent 'end game' gear once I level cap? | ||
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TJ31
630 Posts
On August 12 2013 14:18 Dismay wrote: Let's say I'm new to the game and have a 26 Lancer. Should I dungeon grind (there's a fancy yellow weapon at 27 I wanna try to grab!) or do the main story quest? Should I level my priest instead? Soloing BAMs on a Lancer is easy so far, I could probably solo dungeons if I didn't mind taking an hour. And how big a dive is it to get decent 'end game' gear once I level cap? Well, as a lancer you should have an instant queue times, so doing dungeons and also leveling via instances is not too bad as long as you do repeatable quests. But in general, story+yellow quests is the best (fastest) way to level for the most part. And equip will become obsolete very fast (next tier gear is a way way better). Not sure about the healer, depends if you like your lancer or not. Both are needed at the end game, but lancer still have faster ques of every other class. As for the end game gear... Unless you'll spend most of your gold on leveling gear (you shouldn't), by level 60 you'll have about 5k gold. That's enough for nexus/abyss gear and some enchanting. At 60 you will also start doing nexus and daily quests, which will get you some gold, fodder for enchanting etc You also will be able to do some easy runs, like ACNM. But you still will have to wait for a while before doing any end game content, just because you won't have good enough equip. Then depends on how and with who do you play, you may want to start doing 20 man KN raid (better to learn the basics in KNX first though), which drops 2nd best PvE gear in game. As a lancer you don't really need +12 equip, but randoms most likely won't take you to the run without it anyway. TL;DR: it's not too bad, but right when you hit 60 there will be some pause before you'll be able to run end game things. P.S. Starting from level 30 start doing CS (20v20 BG) dailies. You'll get some credits which you can use to get either nice jewelry, glyphs boxes (all advanced glyphs are for level 58 and 60) or your first pvp set. You will also get strongbox key from the sea chest, which you may either use or just sell for like 350-400g (more when there's an event involving strongboxes). | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 12 2013 13:47 TJ31 wrote: I believe it's a pure pvp set, which should be very (VERY) easy to get. Non MW +9 it's actually worse than FW+9, but when +12, it should be slightly worse than CJ. But with new BG and CS dailies.. everyone have CJ, unless they don't do any pvp at all. Also I don't think new set is easy to MW like Mayhem, so it will be a total waste of money to bother with it, when you can have conjunct which will be upgradable to ruthless conjunct later on. PvE sets are not worth bothering atm too, though. Unless you play a lot or have too many cash to spend. Adonis set from the next patch will be better than current VM, easy to MW and it's solo farmable. Quills will have 100% drop rate, and argon vitriol will come from some new boxes that drops in the new instances (I think). Well in that case there is no point of using the federation set, becase of the cost of +12 it. Is it t13? I dont think magician's fortress will be out for another good 3-4 months so I am not too worried about that. | ||
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TJ31
630 Posts
On August 12 2013 20:52 Sufficiency wrote: Well in that case there is no point of using the federation set, becase of the cost of +12 it. Is it t13? I dont think magician's fortress will be out for another good 3-4 months so I am not too worried about that. T14, which makes it even more pointless. Also I believe EME's producer has said that they are aiming for september-october with MF patch. Last patch got us almost 100% korean client with BAMs nerfs, quests changes, achievements that we never had (like for selling stuff from the pet shops), their enchanting system (pretty much the same thing, just a little lower base success rate) etc. Apparently westernization was scrapped in favor of faster patches. Also if we'll get it by late october, it'll be 5 full months since korean release already, so not that faster than the last few patches anyway. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 13 2013 03:28 TJ31 wrote: T14, which makes it even more pointless. Also I believe EME's producer has said that they are aiming for september-october with MF patch. Last patch got us almost 100% korean client with BAMs nerfs, quests changes, achievements that we never had (like for selling stuff from the pet shops), their enchanting system (pretty much the same thing, just a little lower base success rate) etc. Apparently westernization was scrapped in favor of faster patches. Also if we'll get it by late october, it'll be 5 full months since korean release already, so not that faster than the last few patches anyway. oh wow that is dumb. T14 and worse than conj and not pvpve.... wow... who thought of this dumb idea? Well I dont think releasing mf early is a good idea, because it also means that the older content will expire too quickly... | ||
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