Dragon Age 2 - Page 26

On March 10 2011 01:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


pretty sure there's some sort of 4chan attack or something on the game because there are just so many 0 ratings on that site with just silly comments

I can understand people disliking it but I don't even think the most avid critics of the game would give it a 0, let alone it be a huge portion of the ratings

just seems like the work of trolls to me, could be wrong, but w/e

On March 10 2011 02:02 takingbackoj wrote:

You say silly comments. The comments that are made are pretty accurate and similar across the board for the most part in my opinion having played the game. Just because a game recieved low ratings doesnt mean its 4chans fault. I would probably legitimatly give this game a 7 at the very most. I think the really low ratings are due more to dissapointment than how users actually feel about the game. It's just a huge dissapointment to a lot of rpg fans especially since they had a pretty good base to work with in Origins. If I had of written a review after the first couple hours of playing I would have given it a 0 probably out of sheer dissapointment and frustration with bioware. I would probably give it a 6.5 or so in reality.

On March 10 2011 02:02 takingbackoj wrote:

You say silly comments. The comments that are made are pretty accurate and similar across the board for the most part in my opinion having played the game. Just because a game recieved low ratings doesnt mean its 4chans fault. I would probably legitimatly give this game a 7 at the very most. I think the really low ratings are due more to dissapointment than how users actually feel about the game. It's just a huge dissapointment to a lot of rpg fans especially since they had a pretty good base to work with in Origins. If I had of written a review after the first couple hours of playing I would have given it a 0 probably out of sheer dissapointment and frustration with bioware. I would probably give it a 6.5 or so in reality.

On March 10 2011 02:05 Bibdy wrote:


And people wonder why developers are moving to consoles in droves. PC gaming houses many of the most over-entitled morons the world has ever seen. Childish behaviour like what you're seeing on metacritic doesn't incentivize the developers to make the changes they want. It just makes them consider the opinions of console gamers more.

On March 10 2011 02:10 Serejai wrote:


You don't seem to realize that the only reason this stuff doesn't happen to console games is because most console players don't even use the internet enough to know review sites exist. They get their info from gaming magazines and word of mouth.

Honestly, 99% of all PC gamers I meet are much more mature than console gamers I meet. You'll find more idiots in one round of Halo or Call of Duty over XBL than you'll find in a week of playing a PC game (HoN/DOTA excluded). The simple fact is that most console users, even if they browsed the internet outside of Facebook or Twitter, wouldn't have the technical experience to carry out an attack like this anyway.

On March 10 2011 02:10 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
you're probably right that it isn't 4chan

but the point is the majority of those reviews are not exactly well thought out or unbiased as you said you would have done the same after the first couple hours of playing for reasons completely unrelated to the game itself but rather the genre the company changed the franchise to

disappointment/frustration with a company is no means to judge a game on. judge the company on those emotions and for changing it from a more tactical-RPG to a hack-n-slash action RPG

judge the game for it's merits or lack-there-of, which doesn't seem to be what the people rating it "0's, 1's, 2's, 3's, and 4's" on that site are doing. they rather seem to just be emotional that Dragon Age 2 isn't really the "sequel" to it's original that a lot of people wanted it to be.

I feel like if this was the first game released in the series (and DA:O had never existed), it would have had a much more favorable reception amongst critics and fans. Some people would still dislike it, sure and there's nothing wrong with that, but it feels like a lot of people are criticizing this game for the wrong reasons, at least on that site

On March 10 2011 02:18 SunDevil wrote:
I loved DA1, it was the only RPG I've ever actually finished. DA2 is not a - bad - game, it is only a mediocre one. Here are my issues with it after 5-6 hours of playing:

1) DA1 had an epic storyline where the king was betrayed and killed, the human factions feuded within themselves, the dwarves were in the middle of a civil war and the elves were beset by werewolves. While all of this is on-going, you had to solve each race's issues, pull them together in the face of a tremendous evil, while staying one step ahead of the blight and finding out interesting facts about the whole world.

DA2 (so far) is a storyline involving one city and one family and their struggle to survive. This means being an errand boy and taking tasks on that aren't really interesting or epic. I don't feel like I know anything about the world this takes place in, only the 2 main zones within the city and the instances that shoot off from it. There's no grand struggle here, just one family doing odd jobs to make enough money to profiteer from an expedition to the deep roads. It's a letdown from the epic storyline in DA1. If it picks up later and becomes epic, why is it taking so long for anything to actually happen in the story?

2) The characters in DA1 felt more real to me in their responses and interaction with the environment. Each had their own agenda and they added something to each area you went to an explored. The main character felt more swept up in the events and gradually turned from a new recruit into a warmaster through his interactions. In DA2 none of the characters are really that interesting, to me. The family is pretty one-dimensional and their actions don't make much sense. Why are you helping x, y or z person again? Random relationships are introduced from storylines you don't even see but are only mentioned briefly. I'm not saying DA1 characters were the ultimate examples of writing, but each felt like a unique character who had an actual reason to join your party, the party members I've picked up in DA2 (I'm at work, so forgive me, I don't remember their names - dwarf rogue, elf warrior, human warrior and human mage) don't seem to have much reason to actually join your party or care about you much at all, aside from Avelinda (sp).

3) DA1 was full of interesting and varied locations. Elven forests, ruined dwarven undercities, human castles, werewolf dens, frozen palaces, ravaged towns, icy mountaintops, fortresses, etc etc etc. DA2 (so far) only has 1 city, with a few different zones that alternate between day and night. The out of town stuff so far has been relatively limited, with maybe 5-6 trips out of town, and none of them to really unique or interesting landmarks. The world feels stale, and I'm already tiring of this one small part of the world, where in DA1 you travelled across all of Feralden.

4) DA1 was not an easy game. While most common packs of mobs were not incredibly difficult, they still required some tactical thought and they usually presented at least some challenge. More importantly, whenever the game autosaved for me, I knew that there was a huge and difficult boss fight around the corner. This was exciting combat, where it was easy to lose and it required either really good tactics setups or good micromanagement to win out (and both were needed for boss fights). DA2, I'm literally scared of nothing, I just charge around and everything dies. Oh 17 guys just randomly joined the fight? I'm going to taunt, my party mage is going to fireball, my party warrior is going to whirlwind, my party archer is going to rain of arrows, and they are all going to die. Even when there's a boss and I got excited because I expect a hard fight, they just fall over and die. In DA1 I remember dying repeatedly to most bosses and feeling accomplished when I finally beat them. I felt super good about myself if I beat them on the first try, which was maybe 1 or 2 bosses total. In DA2 it just feels like I'm bulldozing through combat to see the next part of the story, and the story isn't even good. I haven't even adjusted any of the tactics for any of my party members and I might have to use a health potion once in a long while.

5) DA1 had great customizability in your characters. Your main character could be different races with different origins and that had impact on the story. You could shape your companions pretty much how you wanted in terms of skills and weapons. You could give them armor and change their appearance. In DA2 you don't have many options for backstory or race, your companions are pretty clearly meant to be a certain type of character, and you can only change their weapons or rings/amulet/belt. While I understand they wanted to simplify things, this is supposed to be an RPG, you shouldn't limit customization and options.

DA2 did some things right though. The inventory system is miles better and I like how they did the new skills system. If they just applied these new systems to the feel and grandness of DA1 I think it'd a really awesome game.

It's overall just a letdown. It feels like a DLC expansion for DA1 rather then a new game. There's nothing epic or interesting or challenging. It's still an okay game, but it's just not great.

On March 10 2011 02:39 proxY_ wrote:
I'm about 14-18 hours in and I'd give it like a 7/10. It feels very rushed, I've redone the same dungeons like 4 or 5 times from different routes (different entrances but once inside they're identical). This is just really frustrating and frankly silly.

The combat is getting really redundant as well, now that I've pretty much set in place what my general strategy is (I'm going duel double wielding rogues with my main and isabella with avalene tanking and anders healing) most fights go exactly the same way. Make sure my buffs are on, cast haste when the fight starts and the rogues just kill so fast. This might not work so well on nightmare (haven't really messed with it) but it works just fine on hard.

On March 10 2011 02:51 Souljah wrote:
Did that.. the tactical aspect of the game is nothing compared to DAO.

On March 10 2011 02:53 FireBearHero wrote:


Does your house change if you walk in the back door instead of the front?

If you're bored with your current line up try something else. Also upping the difficulty could be a favorable change if you find hard boring.