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On March 07 2011 14:04 Sitinte wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2011 11:27 Fruscainte wrote:Going to give some spoilers to the game, if anyone is interested in saving their money on a game that completely retconn's everything about it. WARNING: MAJOR spoilers to the story are inside this tag. View at your own risk. This info was gathered by people cracking the game just today. + Show Spoiler +* Qunari have horns now. The only explanation to why Sten didn't have horns is "because he wanted to"
* Hawke defends a Qunari invasion alluded to in DA:O, hence making him the champion
* Anders is back, he is possessed by Justice who eventually goes crazy and tries to murder a child
* In the demo, Flemeth told you to deliver a package to the Elves, to Merril essentially. It is a pendant that Flemeth uses to possess Merril and eventually Hawke.
* Flemeth is Andraste (The Ashes were not Andraste, and if you have Oghren in your party when you do that quest, he says that the Ashes healing properties actually come from the fact that that mountain contains the largest amount of Lyrium Ore in the world.)
* Maker is a 'blood dragon'. The dark city IS the Maker asleep. Flemeth reveals this in the very end. She wants to awaken the maker. Flemeth IS one of the original Magisters and also Andraste. Andraste after being enslaved was ADOPTED by the magisters of the Tevinter. She later manged to escape alive from the assault on the Dark city (the dragon; the magisters wanted to slay it) and became Andraste.
* The entire plot is centered around the people losing faith in the Maker, the Chantry trying to use Hawke to get the people to believe in him again, Circle of Magi rebelling against the Chantry along with blood mages and whatnot after Elves summon their Old Gods or something on Mount Suremount
* At the end, you stop the blood mages and put the Circle of Magi back under control of the Chantry in Kirkwall (yes, that quest against except it's the entire game this time)
* Sex Scenes are still PG-13 dry hump scenes in granny panties
There you go
A couple of corrections on the spoilers. They're still HUGE spoilers, so again, I advise against anyone not wanting the game spoiled for them. And most of the spoilers you posted aren't even major retcons except for Flemeth's; even then, they shrouded her in complete mystery, just so that they can tack on stuff additional stuff as they go down the line. + Show Spoiler +
-The qunari horn issue is old now. They expanded on this by saying that MOST qunari are born with horns; there are special cases like Sten who are born without horns, like a genetic defect and given special positions. And then there are outcasts (the mercenaries) who abandon the Qun and cut off their horns.
-If you think Anders is crazy because of that, then I don't know what you'd say to the fact that he assassinates the Grand Cleric and blows up the entire Chantry building with magic.
-Not sure about this one, but I don't think that was the qunari invasion that Sten alluded to. The one he seems to allude to seems like a full blown invasion as opposed to a number of the vanguard stranded in Kirkwall. From what I've read, it seems like they're more on a mission to recover an item that ties in with Isabella's missions.
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Please don't tell me you got your stuff from RPGCodex. I can't take it seriously if it was. No offense.
I can accept the Flemeth issue because like NPCs in DA:O have said, no one really knows anything about Flemeth, even if you managed to attain Flemeth's grimoire in Morrigan's personal quest.
From what I've heard from people who played it already (not as many as 11, but a fair amount), the story is far darker and they don't like the choices you have to make. There is no middle ground and if there is, it's not often and you're going to end up regretting more than if you take a firm stance. And the reviews were mixed; most gave it higher scores, whereas 2 of them were the ones who hated any sort of change whatsoever.
+ Show Spoiler +I have too much respect to use RPGCodex. This was all personally told to me by people I know. Maybe some of what I told was hyperbole because they are all passionate DA:O fans, but the gist of it is true.
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from what I played this looks like it could be as amazing as the original
DA:O was the most amazing rpg I've ever played on my first playthrough and the different combat style doesn't bother me at all in DA:II so here's to hoping it's amazing like the first
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On March 08 2011 05:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
from what I played this looks like it could be as amazing as the original
DA:O was the most amazing rpg I've ever played on my first playthrough and the different combat style doesn't bother me at all in DA:II so here's to hoping it's amazing like the first
yes finally else someone who agrees with me! lots of negative feedback but i don't think the change is necessarily a bad thing... this is all personal opinion of course
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On March 08 2011 05:02 Fruscainte wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2011 14:04 Sitinte wrote:On March 07 2011 11:27 Fruscainte wrote:Going to give some spoilers to the game, if anyone is interested in saving their money on a game that completely retconn's everything about it. WARNING: MAJOR spoilers to the story are inside this tag. View at your own risk. This info was gathered by people cracking the game just today. + Show Spoiler +* Qunari have horns now. The only explanation to why Sten didn't have horns is "because he wanted to"
* Hawke defends a Qunari invasion alluded to in DA:O, hence making him the champion
* Anders is back, he is possessed by Justice who eventually goes crazy and tries to murder a child
* In the demo, Flemeth told you to deliver a package to the Elves, to Merril essentially. It is a pendant that Flemeth uses to possess Merril and eventually Hawke.
* Flemeth is Andraste (The Ashes were not Andraste, and if you have Oghren in your party when you do that quest, he says that the Ashes healing properties actually come from the fact that that mountain contains the largest amount of Lyrium Ore in the world.)
* Maker is a 'blood dragon'. The dark city IS the Maker asleep. Flemeth reveals this in the very end. She wants to awaken the maker. Flemeth IS one of the original Magisters and also Andraste. Andraste after being enslaved was ADOPTED by the magisters of the Tevinter. She later manged to escape alive from the assault on the Dark city (the dragon; the magisters wanted to slay it) and became Andraste.
* The entire plot is centered around the people losing faith in the Maker, the Chantry trying to use Hawke to get the people to believe in him again, Circle of Magi rebelling against the Chantry along with blood mages and whatnot after Elves summon their Old Gods or something on Mount Suremount
* At the end, you stop the blood mages and put the Circle of Magi back under control of the Chantry in Kirkwall (yes, that quest against except it's the entire game this time)
* Sex Scenes are still PG-13 dry hump scenes in granny panties
There you go
A couple of corrections on the spoilers. They're still HUGE spoilers, so again, I advise against anyone not wanting the game spoiled for them. And most of the spoilers you posted aren't even major retcons except for Flemeth's; even then, they shrouded her in complete mystery, just so that they can tack on stuff additional stuff as they go down the line. + Show Spoiler +
-The qunari horn issue is old now. They expanded on this by saying that MOST qunari are born with horns; there are special cases like Sten who are born without horns, like a genetic defect and given special positions. And then there are outcasts (the mercenaries) who abandon the Qun and cut off their horns.
-If you think Anders is crazy because of that, then I don't know what you'd say to the fact that he assassinates the Grand Cleric and blows up the entire Chantry building with magic.
-Not sure about this one, but I don't think that was the qunari invasion that Sten alluded to. The one he seems to allude to seems like a full blown invasion as opposed to a number of the vanguard stranded in Kirkwall. From what I've read, it seems like they're more on a mission to recover an item that ties in with Isabella's missions.
Edit:
Please don't tell me you got your stuff from RPGCodex. I can't take it seriously if it was. No offense.
I can accept the Flemeth issue because like NPCs in DA:O have said, no one really knows anything about Flemeth, even if you managed to attain Flemeth's grimoire in Morrigan's personal quest.
From what I've heard from people who played it already (not as many as 11, but a fair amount), the story is far darker and they don't like the choices you have to make. There is no middle ground and if there is, it's not often and you're going to end up regretting more than if you take a firm stance. And the reviews were mixed; most gave it higher scores, whereas 2 of them were the ones who hated any sort of change whatsoever. + Show Spoiler +I have too much respect to use RPGCodex. This was all personally told to me by people I know. Maybe some of what I told was hyperbole because they are all passionate DA:O fans, but the gist of it is true.
Aside from the Mass Effect wheel, we can agree to disagree. But that's again, difference in opinions, which I won't get into because it's yours and I have mine. I pointed out RPGCodex though, cause I occasionally go for the lulz and the stuff you posted matched what they said a little to closely, and there was even a thread on Bioware Social where one of their members tried to troll with it, before the thread got locked down in one page.
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Downloading from EA Store now. Can't wait!
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Fuck, anyone else pissed off at the amount of DLCs like the ring of whispers and the antivan belt? I like to have all the items but I'm not willing to spend any more money for those. Oh well.
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On March 08 2011 05:31 RyanRushia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 05:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
from what I played this looks like it could be as amazing as the original
DA:O was the most amazing rpg I've ever played on my first playthrough and the different combat style doesn't bother me at all in DA:II so here's to hoping it's amazing like the first yes finally else someone who agrees with me! lots of negative feedback but i don't think the change is necessarily a bad thing... this is all personal opinion of course
Some people just won't be happy unless it's Baldur's Gate 3. Goodbye cruel world (for the next week or two)
Unlocking is based on the official game release date for the region you live in. The PC versions, both digital and retail, will unlock beginning at the following times:
Asia/Pacific region – 0000h on March 8th
Canada & United States – 0000h on March 8th
Russian Federation - 0200h on March 8th
Western Europe – 0000h on March 10th
Australia & New Zealand – 0000h March 9th
Central and South America - 1700h March 10th
Eastern Europe – 0000h March 11th
Great Britain & Ireland – 0000h March 11th
Get ready, Dragon Age 2 is almost here. "
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I thought that DAO was completely awesome and one of the best games I had ever played, but I also though that DAA was pretty much trash, so I'm not sure if I'm going to get this or not O_O I guess I'll wait for all the reviews or something t.t
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On March 08 2011 06:37 DoubleZee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 05:31 RyanRushia wrote:On March 08 2011 05:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
from what I played this looks like it could be as amazing as the original
DA:O was the most amazing rpg I've ever played on my first playthrough and the different combat style doesn't bother me at all in DA:II so here's to hoping it's amazing like the first yes finally else someone who agrees with me! lots of negative feedback but i don't think the change is necessarily a bad thing... this is all personal opinion of course Some people just won't be happy unless it's Baldur's Gate 3. Goodbye cruel world (for the next week or two) Show nested quote +Unlocking is based on the official game release date for the region you live in. The PC versions, both digital and retail, will unlock beginning at the following times:
Asia/Pacific region – 0000h on March 8th
Canada & United States – 0000h on March 8th
Russian Federation - 0200h on March 8th
Western Europe – 0000h on March 10th
Australia & New Zealand – 0000h March 9th
Central and South America - 1700h March 10th
Eastern Europe – 0000h March 11th
Great Britain & Ireland – 0000h March 11th
Get ready, Dragon Age 2 is almost here. "
thanky ou so much for this! looks like i wont be going to class tomorrow.... allnighter ftw
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I took 3 sick days when Origins came out. Unfourtunatly I can't do that this time. New job FTL. I don't look forward to 7am tomorrow morning...
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On March 08 2011 06:37 DoubleZee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 05:31 RyanRushia wrote:On March 08 2011 05:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
from what I played this looks like it could be as amazing as the original
DA:O was the most amazing rpg I've ever played on my first playthrough and the different combat style doesn't bother me at all in DA:II so here's to hoping it's amazing like the first yes finally else someone who agrees with me! lots of negative feedback but i don't think the change is necessarily a bad thing... this is all personal opinion of course Some people just won't be happy unless it's Baldur's Gate 3. Goodbye cruel world (for the next week or two) Show nested quote +Unlocking is based on the official game release date for the region you live in. The PC versions, both digital and retail, will unlock beginning at the following times:
Asia/Pacific region – 0000h on March 8th
Canada & United States – 0000h on March 8th
Russian Federation - 0200h on March 8th
Western Europe – 0000h on March 10th
Australia & New Zealand – 0000h March 9th
Central and South America - 1700h March 10th
Eastern Europe – 0000h March 11th
Great Britain & Ireland – 0000h March 11th
Get ready, Dragon Age 2 is almost here. "
I don't understand...
There are no timezones listed.
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On March 08 2011 06:58 Backpack wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 06:37 DoubleZee wrote:On March 08 2011 05:31 RyanRushia wrote:On March 08 2011 05:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
from what I played this looks like it could be as amazing as the original
DA:O was the most amazing rpg I've ever played on my first playthrough and the different combat style doesn't bother me at all in DA:II so here's to hoping it's amazing like the first yes finally else someone who agrees with me! lots of negative feedback but i don't think the change is necessarily a bad thing... this is all personal opinion of course Some people just won't be happy unless it's Baldur's Gate 3. Goodbye cruel world (for the next week or two) Unlocking is based on the official game release date for the region you live in. The PC versions, both digital and retail, will unlock beginning at the following times:
Asia/Pacific region – 0000h on March 8th
Canada & United States – 0000h on March 8th
Russian Federation - 0200h on March 8th
Western Europe – 0000h on March 10th
Australia & New Zealand – 0000h March 9th
Central and South America - 1700h March 10th
Eastern Europe – 0000h March 11th
Great Britain & Ireland – 0000h March 11th
Get ready, Dragon Age 2 is almost here. " I don't understand... There are no timezones listed.
It's all their respective timezones at midnight.
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On March 08 2011 06:37 DoubleZee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 05:31 RyanRushia wrote:On March 08 2011 05:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
from what I played this looks like it could be as amazing as the original
DA:O was the most amazing rpg I've ever played on my first playthrough and the different combat style doesn't bother me at all in DA:II so here's to hoping it's amazing like the first yes finally else someone who agrees with me! lots of negative feedback but i don't think the change is necessarily a bad thing... this is all personal opinion of course Some people just won't be happy unless it's Baldur's Gate 3. Goodbye cruel world (for the next week or two) Show nested quote +Unlocking is based on the official game release date for the region you live in. The PC versions, both digital and retail, will unlock beginning at the following times:
Asia/Pacific region – 0000h on March 8th
Canada & United States – 0000h on March 8th
Russian Federation - 0200h on March 8th
Western Europe – 0000h on March 10th
Australia & New Zealand – 0000h March 9th
Central and South America - 1700h March 10th
Eastern Europe – 0000h March 11th
Great Britain & Ireland – 0000h March 11th
Get ready, Dragon Age 2 is almost here. "
Yeah some people just like their RPGs to play like RPGs. Crazy I know.
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On March 08 2011 07:09 JohannesH wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 06:37 DoubleZee wrote:On March 08 2011 05:31 RyanRushia wrote:On March 08 2011 05:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
from what I played this looks like it could be as amazing as the original
DA:O was the most amazing rpg I've ever played on my first playthrough and the different combat style doesn't bother me at all in DA:II so here's to hoping it's amazing like the first yes finally else someone who agrees with me! lots of negative feedback but i don't think the change is necessarily a bad thing... this is all personal opinion of course Some people just won't be happy unless it's Baldur's Gate 3. Goodbye cruel world (for the next week or two) Unlocking is based on the official game release date for the region you live in. The PC versions, both digital and retail, will unlock beginning at the following times:
Asia/Pacific region – 0000h on March 8th
Canada & United States – 0000h on March 8th
Russian Federation - 0200h on March 8th
Western Europe – 0000h on March 10th
Australia & New Zealand – 0000h March 9th
Central and South America - 1700h March 10th
Eastern Europe – 0000h March 11th
Great Britain & Ireland – 0000h March 11th
Get ready, Dragon Age 2 is almost here. " Yeah some people just like their RPGs to play like RPGs. Crazy I know.
if DA:O didn't play like an RPG, you must have a very narrow and specific definition of what "RPG gameplay" can be =/
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I was thinking of DA2 with that comment. DAO can be considered an rpg, even if it's filled with boring repetitive filler combat which just makes it a bad rpg.
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For those who found the game too easy... Try soloing DA:O. It's hard as fuck on the highest difficulty.
You will find plenty of challenges.
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there are some new reviews from german magazines. gamestar and pcgames gave it 87% and 88%. main negative points are graphic (oh well ...), level design (repetitive dungeons and only one city), character customization (relatively few skills and items) and playtime (it only takes about 30 hours).
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On March 08 2011 08:17 JohannesH wrote:
I was thinking of DA2 with that comment. DAO can be considered an rpg, even if it's filled with boring repetitive filler combat which just makes it a bad rpg.
so then "action rpgs" with gameplay like DA2 such as torchlight and diablo series aren't really rpgs either right?
I just think it's a bit of a stretch to say it doesn't even play like an RPG
just because it doesn't play like the type of RPG you want it to play like doesn't mean it doesn't play like an RPG
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30 hours ain't so bad. Graphics are kind of disapointing though.
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I'm trying hard to remain pumped for this title but hearing that it will feature only one city really dampened my spirits. Of course I have a pet peeve against limited geographical scope. The only games with such confined setting that I've ever enjoyed were Visual Novels and games where a single geographical area is given exceptional depth setting-wise (Mirror's Edge, VtM:BL, Ys Origin).
In any case, I dearly hope that DA2 will feature some epic setting design, art-wise. As much as I love crisp, energetic combat animations, they alone cannot make a game.
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