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On October 27 2010 05:21 tonight wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 00:38 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
I hate it when people are just getting lucky with points scored against. Last year the top record in my league had that every game, except the one time he played me. The guy averaged like 90 ppg, I averaged like 105 all year. It was the one great week Wes Welker had last year, scored like 30 some points, and he beat me 116 to 103. The week before he had 93, the week after his team went off for the last time and he scored 143... he cracked 100 points one more time that year, and 90 once more than that... missed 80 points in like half the remaining games. I was so mad, if it weren't for that loss, I would have had a higher seed and would have won the Super Bowl.
I'm 4th in points scored against this year, I'm actually negative in PF/PA. 617/636... I wish my team was actually good with the luck I've had so far.
EDIT: I'm on a 3-game win streak, but won four out of five. My team isn't necessarily bad, minus at the QB position, it's just a matter of whether or not people are showing up to play... most weeks they haven't, but I have had three weeks of 100+ points... all of them were 105, which is strange to me, but whatever. I have been averaging close to 100 or a little over. My only loss I loss scoring only 63points or something. It was just a massive under performance by all my players. Week to week my most consistent has been my WRs and they have been winning me games as well.
I'm confused as to why I was quote. Were you just doing it to make sure everyone knew you were continuing that conversation? I can't figure out what that reply is specifically to.
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Austin10833 Posts
sick prediction skills by yahoo
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Still, they were somehow wrong on every single player.
It's so crazy that half of our league is at 4-3.
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It's a well known fact that FF is cruel and unusual.
Some poor oaf in my league has a very good team - foster, Gore, LT, rivers, floyd, austin, gates. Has the second highest scoring in league.
He's 2-5.
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Someone wants to trade me Peyton Hillis and Anquan Boldin for Rashard Mendenhall. My other RBs are Jamaal Charles, Michael Bush, and Donald Brown (also have Jerome Harrison just in case McCoy gets sidelined but I'm most likely gonna drop him). I have a ton of WRs (Hines Ward, Marques Colston, Steve Smith (NYG), Michael Crabtree, Anthony Armstrong, Austin Collie). What do you guys think? Peyton Hillis and Anquan Boldin have a bye this week so... :S Right now I am 7-0 so I am preparing my lineup for playoffs since I will most likely make it.
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That's a really tough call. Boldin is an absolute upgrade over your other WR's, because, let's be honest, you suck at WR. I'm not sure I'd drop Mendenhall at this point though. Typically, I'd say if you're 7-0, with convincing wins, keep it the way you have it.
Still, I think this would take much more careful schedule examination than I'm willing to do. Playoffs are a foregone conclusion for you right now, so check their playoff match-ups. If the MU's are amazing for those two players, and Mendenhall's is questionable, I think it's probably a good move. Whenever I had a team that was a playoff lock, I started to plan for playoffs about midseason... no one has ever traded to me to make my playoff teams winners, but, I still like to think that's a smart move.
That could be over thinking the process though. If you're 7-0, you have obviously done something right (or gotten VERY lucky).
I guess that isn't much of an answer, but it gives you something to think about hopefully.
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Yeah I've been looking over the playoff schedule yet I still can't decide... I'll post it here so maybe you can give me some more input. =)
Week 14/15/16:
Anquan Boldin: @Hou, NO, @Cle
Peyton Hillis: @Buf, @Cin, Bal
Mendenhall: Cin, NYJ, Car (all home)
And it's a mixture of luck and doing things right. =) My team has been very consistent, averaging about 105 points a week. But I did score terribly one week and only decently in another but I was luckily matched up with someone who did even worse. :d
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On October 27 2010 11:16 Souma wrote:
Yeah I've been looking over the playoff schedule yet I still can't decide... I'll post it here so maybe you can give me some more input. =)
Week 14/15/16:
Anquan Boldin: @Hou, NO, @Cle
Peyton Hillis: @Buf, @Cin, Bal
Mendenhall: Cin, NYJ, Car (all home)
And it's a mixture of luck and doing things right. =) My team has been very consistent, averaging about 105 points a week. But I did score terribly one week and only decently in another but I was luckily matched up with someone who did even worse. :d
Sure, luck will always play into it...
I looked over the rest of the schedules briefly just now, as well as the ones you put there. Hillis plays, in my estimation, two good defenses for the rest of the year, in NYJ, then BAL in the week 16. I think he's gonna see a lot of work in those games, and he's on fire this year.
Boldin has a soft schedule upcoming as well.
Mendenhall has, by far, the most difficult schedule remaining.
I think I'd pull the trigger on this. Mendenhall may be your best performer right now, but with Ben back, I think they're going to start leaning away from him a bit anyway. I mean, you look at his game logs last year, and he was okay, but he wasn't really a top tier HB anyway... I think it's going to be similar this year from here on out, tbh. I'm feeling like I'd make this trade, if I were you. It could lead to bad times for you if Hillis starts to get keyed on more, but to me, this is worth the risk. I think your backfield is strong enough to compensate for some under-performances from Hillis anyway, and Boldin is the absolute #1 in Baltimore. And I mean, he put up a 30 spot on Cleveland earlier this year... NO isn't great on D this season... I really think this is a good move for you.
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Before I post this, I want to give some back story so this makes more sense. I belong to a Broncos fan group on FB, and there's an event called Broncos Fans Unite (in which the guy has left a PR number for the Broncos for fans to call and bitch at the team.. I've no clue if it's legit). As expected, there is some discussion. I'll quote the stuff other people said, not quote mine. I'm not just posting because I think this is great football talk (it's no better than what I post here, which is often garbage), but because maybe it will spark discussion or something, idk... we can all bitch and moan about how our teams aren't performing, I guess.
true, Bowlen and McDaniels should get the blame...but what about the underachieving talent we have...i mean come on, we do have some pretty good players when their heads are in the right place..Sunday was very embarrassing
& McDaniels is to blame for all that "talent". The Broncos were a more talented team before they hired the Patriot reject. The guy tried to take credit for Tom Brady. That right there should've indicated to the Broncos that this guy is a moron. But nope. Denver wants to have back to back laughable seasons.
Back to back to back. I'm hoping that they don't win another game this season. Maybe they'll fire McDouchebag and Bowlen will get someone who actually knows football to run the team for him. I was SO pissed when he didn't hire Spagnuola. Why hire a guy with a new offensive philosophy, who will undoubtedly fire the OC, rather than a guy who will keep the strong part of his team in tact, and improve on the area that's struggling.
McDickhead is doing exactly what Shannahan was run out of town for at this point. This team looks no different than it did in '07, except fans had more hope for that '07 team, because it was STACKED with talent.
I am mad. But I still want the Broncos to win every game they play. I would never hope for them to lose just to get rid of a coach. Go Broncos!
NOTE: This one really set me off, and I posted like a two-page essay in response. This line of thought is absolutely maddening to me. This blind devotion to a team drives me crazy. If I can't win now, I want to set myself up to win in the future. That makes sense to me; that's logical to me. To me, the only win that REALLY matters is the Super Bowl. You can throw the whole season in the can if you don't win that one, imo (ask the 18-1 Pats team about that, ROFL). It's the same ridiculousness as nationalism (I do believe in a degree of it, but I think we all know that some people get a bit too crazy about their country being better than everyone else, but that's not a discussion for this thread). Anyway, the spoilered quote below is my response.
+ Show Spoiler [Very Long] +If they had the possibility of winning a ring with this coach, I'd agree. All he has done is run talent out of town, and bring in old, useless defensive talent... doesn't that sound familiar? Oh, right, Shanny did the same thing on defense, but he was smart enough to get real offensive talent and keep it. Funny how none of those players had attitude problems under Shanny either. Then the douche runs out one of the best DC's in the league.
I wouldn't care who the coach was if he showed any promise (which is the only thing that matters to me in a coach; I don't care who he is or where he's from), but this guy hasn't. I'd much rather see them drop a bunch of games for a single season than bury the team in a deeper hole for the next five years, and create a situation that will create a mess that is going to take ANOTHER five to clean up.
As it stands, this team is a few really good defensive players from a legitimate playoff run. What Mcdoucher has shown is that he has little interest, or ability, in drafting good defensive talent, and would rather try to rekindle a washed-up player's career (same as Shannahan). Furthermore, he's shown complete ineptitude in drafting and bringing in quality offensive talent.
Who has he drafted? Moreno, decent, not great... certainly not deserving of #12 overall, but I can understand the pick there. Robert Ayers... good pick, he's played really well. Alphonso Smith, not on the team anymore. I don't remember any of this picks beyond that. They're a bunch of defensive washouts. I was actually pleased with the first draft, though, and thought he had the team headed in the right direction. I figured a couple more drafts like that, with good development from a good DC, and next year (2011) this team would be primed for a deep playoff run.
This year, he skips Dez Bryant, the unquestionable #1 WR, and drafts Demaryius Thomas. Thomas looks like he's going to be good, but I don't think anyone had that guy on their board until mid-second round. He reached to what, 23 to grab him? Then what does he do? The most astonishing draft move since Ditka traded away his draft for Ricky Williams, the dumbass trades BACK TO THE FIRST to grab a guy that has NO CHANCE AT ALL of playing QB in this league. Why did he do it? Because he has good character? This idiot has his head so far up his ass, he would rather draft a saint that can't play the game, than a normal person that is loaded with talent. Yeah, some players are head cases, but you deal with them because they're supremely talented. You don't trade away picks for a guy that was never going to get drafted by ANYONE else until the fourth round... It was unreal. I think he grabbed a guard or tackle with the next pick, while completely ignoring the glaring weaknesses on defense.
Then, as luck would have it, the cog piece of the defense ripped a pectoral muscle, ending his season before it began (Dumervil). That's not his fault, but if he had drafted a bit more wisely (i.e. defensively), there wouldn't be as many issues as there are now. And now what are we--as fans, I hate people that call the team "we," we don't take hits and injure ourselves, nor do we have any part in decisions made on the team, we're just fans--stuck with? An offense that can move the ball up and down the field at will, but for some reason can't score half of the time, and one of the most porous defenses in the league. There is no pass rush, so the CB's are 1-on-1 all day, and they can't stop the run.... this is EXACTLY what Shannahan was fired for. So what have the last two years under this idiot brought? Absolutely nothing! Nothing at all, except to be a talent developer for other teams. It has been two dead years. The team has been completely stagnant. Two things have changed: talent was lost, Champ is getting older.
The Broncos are quickly becoming the laughing stock of the NFL. I don't want McFuckhead gone because I dislike him; I want him gone (and the only way he goes is by the team losing, so let's just get this shit over with) because he's driving my beloved Broncos into a hole so deep, they won't see the light of day for five years after he is gone.
So I guess the discussion I want to spark, aside from discussion about my awesome team, is whether or not you disagree with my note about how I view winning in the NFL, or really any sport.
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On October 27 2010 12:04 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 11:16 Souma wrote:
Yeah I've been looking over the playoff schedule yet I still can't decide... I'll post it here so maybe you can give me some more input. =)
Week 14/15/16:
Anquan Boldin: @Hou, NO, @Cle
Peyton Hillis: @Buf, @Cin, Bal
Mendenhall: Cin, NYJ, Car (all home)
And it's a mixture of luck and doing things right. =) My team has been very consistent, averaging about 105 points a week. But I did score terribly one week and only decently in another but I was luckily matched up with someone who did even worse. :d Sure, luck will always play into it... I looked over the rest of the schedules briefly just now, as well as the ones you put there. Hillis plays, in my estimation, two good defenses for the rest of the year, in NYJ, then BAL in the week 16. I think he's gonna see a lot of work in those games, and he's on fire this year. Boldin has a soft schedule upcoming as well. Mendenhall has, by far, the most difficult schedule remaining. I think I'd pull the trigger on this. Mendenhall may be your best performer right now, but with Ben back, I think they're going to start leaning away from him a bit anyway. I mean, you look at his game logs last year, and he was okay, but he wasn't really a top tier HB anyway... I think it's going to be similar this year from here on out, tbh. I'm feeling like I'd make this trade, if I were you. It could lead to bad times for you if Hillis starts to get keyed on more, but to me, this is worth the risk. I think your backfield is strong enough to compensate for some under-performances from Hillis anyway, and Boldin is the absolute #1 in Baltimore. And I mean, he put up a 30 spot on Cleveland earlier this year... NO isn't great on D this season... I really think this is a good move for you.
Yeah, I believe I'll go through with the trade. The guy's only trading me because he really needs a win this week and Boldin and Hillis are on Bye, so he needs a good player.
I would also love to slap AJ Smith a few times (in response to your McDaniels hate). Norv I can deal with, but AJ Smith needs to learn that to be appreciated, he needs to first appreciate.
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iNcontroL
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this thread has completely descended into a fantasy football thread 
Pretty disappointing. Rarely an actual FB discussion any more.. now people are listing who they started and asking for advice etc.
Lame.
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On October 27 2010 14:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote:this thread has completely descended into a fantasy football thread Pretty disappointing. Rarely an actual FB discussion any more.. now people are listing who they started and asking for advice etc. Lame.
I just posted a page and a half about the Broncos, the RL team.
And this has been discussed a million times by now, but fantasy relates directly to real football. We consider team vs team match ups, scheme match ups, and player vs player match ups when discussing who should start over who. Someone could easily join in and say "I don't think the Vikings are going to do well, because I think Randy Moss will be limited for xyz, and you have to consider that Favre has two fractures in his ankle, and given how pass happy that offense is, AP isn't really getting the chance to shine right now."
Someone else might respond "AP may be getting overshadowed, but it's only because they're losing. He carried the ball 28 times Sunday night for 131 yards, and a TD. Plus two catches for 41 yards. He'd be the most talked about person in the league if Favre wasn't there taking all the attention from him. Instead of the talk being about the great game he had, it's about the absolutely abysmal game that Favre had. How long do you think they'll let him play like this before he gets pulled?"
A third person might say "There's no way they pull Favre for Tavaris Jackson, unless he's physically unable to play. TJack can't handle blitzes at all. Every time he's had a prolonged chance to play, he's gotten progressively worse over time--as teams start to blitz him. Regardless of how he sometimes plays, Favre absolutely gives the Vikings the best chance to win, because those throws that sometimes go the wrong way, often go the right way. This is what has been so exciting about Bret Favre for years; it's why he's one of the most loved, hated, and storied quarterbacks in NFL history. He makes the game exciting with his enthusiasm and risk taking. Even if he throws three picks, you know he has the ability to bring that team back in the waning seconds of the fourth quarter, and that's something the other quarterbacks on this team don't possess. There is absolutely no way that Favre gets pulled."
Instead, people come in and cry that we're talking about fantasy football too much.
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If there is something important to be discussed, it will be discussed. If you check a couple pages back, we had a long discussion about the hit on defenseless receiver rule. Also, whatever SweetLemonS said.
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On October 27 2010 14:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote:this thread has completely descended into a fantasy football thread Pretty disappointing. Rarely an actual FB discussion any more.. now people are listing who they started and asking for advice etc. Lame.
What do you really expect when people are talking about a subject played 1 day a week. Fantasy football is a nice discussion filler!
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On October 27 2010 14:16 {88}iNcontroL wrote:this thread has completely descended into a fantasy football thread Pretty disappointing. Rarely an actual FB discussion any more.. now people are listing who they started and asking for advice etc. Lame.
Well, I started a thread specifically for 2010 Fantasy Football some time in late August, but a mod admin told me to just use this thread so...
Here you go http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145298
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If you look beyond people using the words fantasy football you'll find a lot of legit information from week to week about teams and match ups here.
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So, back to the fantasy football... *cough*
So with the bye weeks raping people, I must choose between Donald Brown (if he plays) and Michael Bush. Donald Brown will be against Houston, while Bush will be against the Seahawks (both at home). Obviously Michael Bush plays behind McFadden so that's a big con, and Seahawks run defense has been playing well. Donald Brown will be sharing carries with Mike Hart, and Hart will more likely get goal line duties as well. Plus, the Texans run defense is good, compared to their pass defense. What do you guys think? Brown or Bush?
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I'm going to try and put in a trade for Mendenhall by trying to give up Keller and Collie. Probably won't work, but those are the only two I would want to give away.
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