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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
On July 12 2010 02:13 kyarisan wrote: there isnt really any good footage of wong vs the zangief player but you can watch the set between gamerbee and j wong here oh yeah, for the stream http://evo2k.com/live/ sick thankyou | ||
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Islandsnake
United States679 Posts
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On July 12 2010 02:05 SkepTicAL wrote: I duno man, on youtube they kept downloading each other and winning 4-5 in a row and then vice versa. Just depends whos day it is really. Yea. Both have been absolutely rock solid. I couldn't believe how badly Gamer Bee cleaned up last night at the salty suite tournament. Predictions: Winners bracket: Daigo Umehara (Ryu) > Mike Ross (E. Honda) -Beast is too strong Vance "Vangief" Wu (Zangief) > EG.Ricky Ortiz (Rufus) -If RickyO stays on Rufus, I've got Vangief. I'm confident that Jwong's Rufus is the best in the USA and we all saw what happened. I wouldn't be surprised to see a character switch from RickyO Daigo Umehara (Ryu) > Vance "Vangief" Wu (Zangief) -Daigo has played against plenty of really good giefs in Japan and I think Vangief will just get boxed out all game. Losers bracket: Henry Cen (E. Honda, Dhalsim) < GamerBee (Adon) -No way is Gamer Bee losing to either E. Honda or Dhalsim. You just can't turtle against him period and he took Arturo out so many times both as Seth and as Dhalsim last night. Infiltration (Akuma, Juri) > Shizza (Chun-Li) - Maybe Shizza can beat Infiltration, but he plays a really intelligent Akuma and I have him taking this one. I don't think we will see a Juri switch, but it is possible. This one could really go either way. GamerBee (Adon) > Infiltration (Akuma, Juri) - I think Adon is a bad match-up for Akuma. He can't mix up nearly as effectively because of Adon's insane recovery speed on so much of his stuff. I'm guessing that Infiltration will give Juri a go before he loses, not sure when. I don't think it is going to matter though. Infiltration's Juri has pulled out some remarkable wins, but like Neo he has been shaky at many points throughout. I see Gamer Bee advancing after cleaning up the losers from winners with little difficulty. It would be really interesting to see Gamer Bee vs Vangief... Only thing I really have no idea about. | ||
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Chill
Calgary25980 Posts
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SwaY-
Dominican Republic463 Posts
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
somewhere bill307 is smiling :p only gonna watch once LK/garu is playing | ||
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Islandsnake
United States679 Posts
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Snausages
United States529 Posts
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
Here are some of the common pressure and mixup attempts you'll see in games. This should help a lot in understanding what people are doing.  Air Counterhits If you score a counter hit in the air, even with a jab, you can juggle your opponent afterwards: they cannot recover until they land. You'll see this happening a lot. Tech Punishing In MBAA, your "quick-rise" or fast wake-up on the ground is called teching. The character looks like they bounce off the ground, usually bouncing to the left or right. Unlike SSF4, after you quick-rise you are vulnerable for a few frames before you can move, so people can get a free combo if they were expecting it. This is called tech-punishing. Frame Traps and Stagger Strings Same as in SSF4: you do a move, wait a sec, then do another move, leaving a 1-3 frame gap between your hits. If the opponent pressed a button, they get counterhit. Stagger Strings are pressure strings with frame traps in them. Whiff-Cancelling in Pressure Strings Like I mentioned before, Crescent and Half moon can cancel their heavy attacks into light attacks to eliminate the long recovery. This can be very confusing for both the stream viewer and the opponent.  E.g. you might see someone do a few hits into a blocked sweep, then cancel into a whiffed light attack, then do one of the following:- dash in for a throw - dash in to continue pressure - do another attack to counter-hit the opponent (frame trap) - instant airdash (airdash low to the ground) to continue pressure High-Low Mixups Many characters have overheads like in SSF4, but there is another high-low mixup that you'll see a lot. When someone jumps in on you and does an air attack, after you block it your instinct is to start blocking low to continue blocking when they land. But in MBAA, they can double jump after the air attack, airdash, and do a second air attack: this happens so fast that it can be hard to react to it and block high again. Another example: mixing up between an empty jump into a low or throw, and air-dashing at the last second to do a delayed air attack. Cross-Ups MBAA has an unusual cross-up protection: when your opponent jumps over you, you usually don't have to block backwards! If the opponent has their back to you in the air, then you can block their air attack in either direction. As a result, you'll see 3 different kinds of cross-ups that avoid this protection: 1. Jump over their head, then airdash backwards over their head, basically crossing them up twice. In this situation, the attack has to be blocked from the front. 2. Jump over their head, then double-jump so that the character faces the opponent. Cross-up protection won't save you if your opponent is facing you. 2. Jump and land directly on top of a character on wake-up, so that you land on either the front side or the back side. Cross-up protection won't help you against ground attacks. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
i remember at NECX mbaa room was making more sound than even teh sf4 team finals lol | ||
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
)Whoever this character kusanagi is playing seems pretty cool as well ) and since I know nothing about this I'll just cheer for this guy ) | ||
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SwaY-
Dominican Republic463 Posts
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Snausages
United States529 Posts
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
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Islandsnake
United States679 Posts
Seems pretty advanced, I love all the air movement and cool EX bar mechanics ( red hp Regain) Great newbie friendly commentary too | ||
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
Bill, I used to remember (also when the stream mentioned) Arlieth getting mad hype for this game a long time back, I was wondering, what the hell happened to arlieth? Edit: @islandsnake. You said it. Whenever I see a jump forward airdash back crossup hit I just leap off my seat ) | ||
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SwaY-
Dominican Republic463 Posts
On July 12 2010 02:51 Bill307 wrote: I'm actually pleasantly surprised that there are 10k+ people watching this right now. might wanna recheck since there are 2 official streams with diff counters, i think its way more then 10k(10k on ustream) | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
and wow guru in losers | ||
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
On July 12 2010 02:57 SwaY- wrote: might wanna recheck since there are 2 official streams with diff counters, i think its way more then 10k(10k on ustream) Yeah, mine has "total" viewers of over 26.3k with around 4k on the stream I'm watching | ||
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