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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 16 2015 19:52 GMT
#19161
if its a good rift, i would be upset (those levels where its a big box and you just go row by row), but normally i just close after killing RG.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 16 2015 19:54 GMT
#19162
On April 17 2015 04:42 oneofthem wrote:
i dont think they'll rollback a season since gr level and paragon level are the two main metrics of competition for seasons, and gear level is not determinant for either.

the gear helps you attain higher gr levels?
I'm not sure about other classes but you cannot contest 40+ without specific builds that are based on specific item sets with specific rolls on certain stats (for wizards), esp on hc. I doubt it differs by much though. thousands of blood shards makes it ridiculously easy to attain that gear.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 19:59:21
April 16 2015 19:56 GMT
#19163
If anything, I'd quit the game with a big "fuck you" to the developers if they rolled back my progress just because some tard abused a bug and got infinite money.

On April 17 2015 04:52 dAPhREAk wrote:
if its a good rift, i would be upset (those levels where its a big box and you just go row by row), but normally i just close after killing RG.

Idk, the best thing you get from normal rifts are greater rift keys, so there's almost no kind of rift I'd not close. They're not that different after the density change too. The only kind of rifts I tend to finish are pandemonium just because of how many white materials those give, but I don't get too upset if someone else closes that too.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 19:59:38
April 16 2015 19:58 GMT
#19164
-- deleted --
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 16 2015 20:00 GMT
#19165
On April 17 2015 04:54 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 04:42 oneofthem wrote:
i dont think they'll rollback a season since gr level and paragon level are the two main metrics of competition for seasons, and gear level is not determinant for either.

the gear helps you attain higher gr levels?
I'm not sure about other classes but you cannot contest 40+ without specific builds that are based on specific item sets with specific rolls on certain stats (for wizards), esp on hc. I doubt it differs by much though. thousands of blood shards makes it ridiculously easy to attain that gear.

it takes relatively short amount of time to get that gear vs grinding 1000 plvl or doing 55+ rifts. esp for the committed players who did the exploit.

it would be nice if they just gave everyone a basic starting set and an ancient wep and this shard thing basically comes to that outcome
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
April 16 2015 20:01 GMT
#19166
okay I haven't played the game for a year and just started with season 3 and got a barb to 70. What do I actually do now? Bounties and rifts on torment one until I get the gear to ramp the difficulty up?
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 16 2015 20:04 GMT
#19167
I wanted to write a post about utilitarian ethics but this is a video game so who actually cares

just saying that rolling back a day or so would be the easiest, fairest way to deal with this even though people (including me) may be mad.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
April 16 2015 20:04 GMT
#19168
On April 17 2015 05:01 Nyxisto wrote:
okay I haven't played the game for a year and just started with season 3 and got a barb to 70. What do I actually do now? Bounties and rifts on torment one until I get the gear to ramp the difficulty up?

yea youll make the transition from rares to random legs, to a couple set pieces. Hopefully between doing bounties and highest rifts possible you'll find a RoRG, which will allow you to obtain set bonuses faster.

RoRG is a leg ring found in act 1 bounty caches which bring the number of set pieces needed to obtain set bonuses down by 1.
TwitteR: @NeverExpo follow me, i'll follow back :)
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
April 16 2015 20:05 GMT
#19169
On April 17 2015 04:43 BluzMan wrote:
Ok, abit of derailing, but it's time someone explained because I'm amazed for too long a time. Why are people so adamant on clearing rifts? It had some merit like a year ago, but after grifts got introduced and the drop of rift price from 5 keys to 1 it seems utterly pointless. Yet in every single game there's someone who's "WHY THE FUCK DID YOU CLOSE, YOU MOTHERFUCKER". They're not only upset, they're damn serious about this thing too. What's the catch?

I can't think of a good reason. Even if it's a "good" rift with lots of pack, I usually don't bother clearing after the rift boss.

I wouldn't regard them lol
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
April 16 2015 20:09 GMT
#19170
On April 17 2015 05:01 Nyxisto wrote:
okay I haven't played the game for a year and just started with season 3 and got a barb to 70. What do I actually do now? Bounties and rifts on torment one until I get the gear to ramp the difficulty up?


Get a greater rift key by any means, skip the trials (TP as soon as you get inside) and start killing rift guardians every 15 minutes to only advance 1 rift level at a time. Once you clear a grift, TP the very moment the guardian starts to appear and do bounties for as long as 2 minutes remain (remember the time you started the grift, add 15 minutes to see when it ends). Don't use TP in bounties, only use the map to travel, keep that portal to the guardian up. This way you'll quickly get all the gems and get many legendaries too. Use shards to gamble your set of choice. Keep in mind that you can only salvage the gear you find while a grift is open, but not drop on the ground (so don't run bounties with full inventory in case a legendary drops there). You also can't run bosses while in a greater rift and that includes Greed from the goblin portal, so wait on that one.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 16 2015 20:15 GMT
#19171
On April 17 2015 05:00 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 04:54 andyrau wrote:
On April 17 2015 04:42 oneofthem wrote:
i dont think they'll rollback a season since gr level and paragon level are the two main metrics of competition for seasons, and gear level is not determinant for either.

the gear helps you attain higher gr levels?
I'm not sure about other classes but you cannot contest 40+ without specific builds that are based on specific item sets with specific rolls on certain stats (for wizards), esp on hc. I doubt it differs by much though. thousands of blood shards makes it ridiculously easy to attain that gear.

it takes relatively short amount of time to get that gear vs grinding 1000 plvl or doing 55+ rifts. esp for the committed players who did the exploit.

it would be nice if they just gave everyone a basic starting set and an ancient wep and this shard thing basically comes to that outcome

so you're saying a better rolls on items don't help with higher gr? esp with hc and other factors like higher breakpoints on skills attained I am pretty sure this glitch effectively skews the leaderboards and will have a significant impact.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22046 Posts
April 16 2015 20:19 GMT
#19172
On April 17 2015 05:15 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 05:00 oneofthem wrote:
On April 17 2015 04:54 andyrau wrote:
On April 17 2015 04:42 oneofthem wrote:
i dont think they'll rollback a season since gr level and paragon level are the two main metrics of competition for seasons, and gear level is not determinant for either.

the gear helps you attain higher gr levels?
I'm not sure about other classes but you cannot contest 40+ without specific builds that are based on specific item sets with specific rolls on certain stats (for wizards), esp on hc. I doubt it differs by much though. thousands of blood shards makes it ridiculously easy to attain that gear.

it takes relatively short amount of time to get that gear vs grinding 1000 plvl or doing 55+ rifts. esp for the committed players who did the exploit.

it would be nice if they just gave everyone a basic starting set and an ancient wep and this shard thing basically comes to that outcome

so you're saying a better rolls on items don't help with higher gr? esp with hc and other factors like higher breakpoints on skills attained I am pretty sure this glitch effectively skews the leaderboards and will have a significant impact.

I never got the leaderboards anyway considering the giant RNG fest that drops are.
There isnt a reward for top X is there? So why would they roll back? There is no economy to destroy.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 16 2015 20:28 GMT
#19173
wow, blizzard is actually doing something about this exploit.

RIP mannercookie, one of the top players hc and sc just had his account closed down haha.


THE ULTIMATE RIP.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22046 Posts
April 16 2015 20:30 GMT
#19174
Blizzard doesn't like it when you stream your exploits,
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
April 16 2015 20:34 GMT
#19175
On April 17 2015 05:28 crms wrote:
wow, blizzard is actually doing something about this exploit.

RIP mannercookie, one of the top players hc and sc just had his account closed down haha.


THE ULTIMATE RIP.


I think it would be enough to only restrict an account from participating in a season. But a permaban might be ok too.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 16 2015 20:34 GMT
#19176
On April 17 2015 05:19 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 05:15 andyrau wrote:
On April 17 2015 05:00 oneofthem wrote:
On April 17 2015 04:54 andyrau wrote:
On April 17 2015 04:42 oneofthem wrote:
i dont think they'll rollback a season since gr level and paragon level are the two main metrics of competition for seasons, and gear level is not determinant for either.

the gear helps you attain higher gr levels?
I'm not sure about other classes but you cannot contest 40+ without specific builds that are based on specific item sets with specific rolls on certain stats (for wizards), esp on hc. I doubt it differs by much though. thousands of blood shards makes it ridiculously easy to attain that gear.

it takes relatively short amount of time to get that gear vs grinding 1000 plvl or doing 55+ rifts. esp for the committed players who did the exploit.

it would be nice if they just gave everyone a basic starting set and an ancient wep and this shard thing basically comes to that outcome

so you're saying a better rolls on items don't help with higher gr? esp with hc and other factors like higher breakpoints on skills attained I am pretty sure this glitch effectively skews the leaderboards and will have a significant impact.

I never got the leaderboards anyway considering the giant RNG fest that drops are.
There isnt a reward for top X is there? So why would they roll back? There is no economy to destroy.

idk I don't care much for it but blizzard obviously does lol
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/17084368475
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 20:35:49
April 16 2015 20:35 GMT
#19177
On April 17 2015 05:15 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 05:00 oneofthem wrote:
On April 17 2015 04:54 andyrau wrote:
On April 17 2015 04:42 oneofthem wrote:
i dont think they'll rollback a season since gr level and paragon level are the two main metrics of competition for seasons, and gear level is not determinant for either.

the gear helps you attain higher gr levels?
I'm not sure about other classes but you cannot contest 40+ without specific builds that are based on specific item sets with specific rolls on certain stats (for wizards), esp on hc. I doubt it differs by much though. thousands of blood shards makes it ridiculously easy to attain that gear.

it takes relatively short amount of time to get that gear vs grinding 1000 plvl or doing 55+ rifts. esp for the committed players who did the exploit.

it would be nice if they just gave everyone a basic starting set and an ancient wep and this shard thing basically comes to that outcome

so you're saying a better rolls on items don't help with higher gr? esp with hc and other factors like higher breakpoints on skills attained I am pretty sure this glitch effectively skews the leaderboards and will have a significant impact.

i said it is not determinant indicating some but not overwhelming influence. just makes the gear grinding less painful.

now for hc i can see a larger problem
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22046 Posts
April 16 2015 20:37 GMT
#19178
On April 17 2015 05:34 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 05:19 Gorsameth wrote:
On April 17 2015 05:15 andyrau wrote:
On April 17 2015 05:00 oneofthem wrote:
On April 17 2015 04:54 andyrau wrote:
On April 17 2015 04:42 oneofthem wrote:
i dont think they'll rollback a season since gr level and paragon level are the two main metrics of competition for seasons, and gear level is not determinant for either.

the gear helps you attain higher gr levels?
I'm not sure about other classes but you cannot contest 40+ without specific builds that are based on specific item sets with specific rolls on certain stats (for wizards), esp on hc. I doubt it differs by much though. thousands of blood shards makes it ridiculously easy to attain that gear.

it takes relatively short amount of time to get that gear vs grinding 1000 plvl or doing 55+ rifts. esp for the committed players who did the exploit.

it would be nice if they just gave everyone a basic starting set and an ancient wep and this shard thing basically comes to that outcome

so you're saying a better rolls on items don't help with higher gr? esp with hc and other factors like higher breakpoints on skills attained I am pretty sure this glitch effectively skews the leaderboards and will have a significant impact.

I never got the leaderboards anyway considering the giant RNG fest that drops are.
There isnt a reward for top X is there? So why would they roll back? There is no economy to destroy.

idk I don't care much for it but blizzard obviously does lol
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/17084368475

I was talking about doing a roll back. Thats slightly different from banning people who are streaming themselves while they are exploiting.

Good to see Blizzard take action tho.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
April 16 2015 20:37 GMT
#19179
More surprised they're banning people, rather than doing a rollback or something. Or temp ban. I'm not sure streaming spreads the word any quicker than Reddit/forums/etc? Maybe.

Makes me wonder if they ARE going to take further action though. They haven't done much in the past seasons with regards to exploits.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22046 Posts
April 16 2015 20:50 GMT
#19180
On April 17 2015 05:37 Duka08 wrote:
More surprised they're banning people, rather than doing a rollback or something. Or temp ban. I'm not sure streaming spreads the word any quicker than Reddit/forums/etc? Maybe.

Makes me wonder if they ARE going to take further action though. They haven't done much in the past seasons with regards to exploits.

Earlier this year Reckful (a popular WoW streamer) got banned for streaming Arena boosts despite them happening all the time anyway. They really don't like you streaming stuff that isn't allowed :p
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