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Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
September 04 2014 16:17 GMT
#18241
I dunno. Considering how garbage the other A1 bounty legs are, i think its fine. You're still souling most of those legs.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
September 04 2014 16:57 GMT
#18242
whats a good mara6 fire build that triggers cull of the weak and bane of the trapped gem?

i have the best gear for lightning but the builds are underwhelming. cold appears the best, but i dont have an amulet or SoJ for cold. i have at least a SoJ for fire (better one for lit).
SyNc`
Profile Joined August 2011
333 Posts
September 04 2014 16:58 GMT
#18243
On September 05 2014 01:57 dAPhREAk wrote:
whats a good mara6 fire build that triggers cull of the weak and bane of the trapped gem?

i have the best gear for lightning but the builds are underwhelming. cold appears the best, but i dont have an amulet or SoJ for cold. i have at least a SoJ for fire (better one for lit).


Just use fire sentries/cluster bomb/multishot and use a cold elemental arrow rune
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 17:11:09
September 04 2014 17:09 GMT
#18244
The endgame for m6 is now cold using Etrayu. Frost arrow, cluster - maelstrom, multishot - arsenal, sentry - spitfire, companion and then either vault or smoke screen or some escape mechanism. This gets full benefit from Cull the weak, ballistics makes maelstrom rockets do a ton, awareness is vital until they nerf jailer, and custom engineering for trials and pre-bombadier's russak if not usually steady aim.

As for fire using cull the weak the best is to use frost arrow + cluster arrow - loaded for bear or use polar station on your sentries to proc the slow.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
September 04 2014 17:49 GMT
#18245
i recognize cold is better, but i don't have a cold SoJ or cold amulet. I guess i could just go with a regular ring (until i get my second unity) and ignore the fact that i only have cold dmg on bracers, but is that really better than using fire with a fire Soj?

here is my character for reference:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/dAPhREAk-1843/hero/51716084

also, a 2700 dps one hand crossbow just dropped with great rolls (i didnt even need to enchant). i heard that 2h crossbows are better though unless you can meet certain breakpoints. any thoughts?
SyNc`
Profile Joined August 2011
333 Posts
September 04 2014 17:52 GMT
#18246
On September 05 2014 02:49 dAPhREAk wrote:
i recognize cold is better, but i don't have a cold SoJ or cold amulet. I guess i could just go with a regular ring (until i get my second unity) and ignore the fact that i only have cold dmg on bracers, but is that really better than using fire with a fire Soj?

here is my character for reference:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/dAPhREAk-1843/hero/51716084

also, a 2700 dps one hand crossbow just dropped with great rolls (i didnt even need to enchant). i heard that 2h crossbows are better though unless you can meet certain breakpoints. any thoughts?


You don't need a cold amulet. Most people reroll elemental for sockets on their amulets anyway. As far as soj goes, you won't be using it in solo play anyway if you have tasker and theos or hexing pants since you'll be running rorg and unity. 2h crossbows were the best but 2h bows are the best now.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
September 04 2014 18:48 GMT
#18247
if you're gonna run nats slayer, run the ring as well for the 3 piece bonus
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-04 19:34:32
September 04 2014 19:28 GMT
#18248
Looking at the leaderboards, I'm seeing a mixture of 2h xbows and bows. In terms of element, it depends on what you are doing. Cold is best right now for solo play. For group play, I'm seeing a mix of fire and cold. There is an argument for using calamity as well for group play.

On September 04 2014 11:40 Valiver wrote:
WOW that's a huge out of nowhere change. I like buffing the chances for rrog, as it is literally a requirement for so many builds, but that seems so drastic of an increase. Actually now that I think about it of course blizzard took it from one extreme (super hard to get) to another (really easy to get), that's what they always do.


I love this change. Granted, I haven't tried doing any yet but it seems like an awesome change. Every minute I spend doing a bounty is a minute I'm not rifting. It's just something I want to spend as little time on as possible as my chances of getting good, non-rorg drops are severely diminished while doing bounties instead of rifts. Not to mention the stupidity of having normal split bounties being the best way to farm for it for a very long time.

Also, rorg has forced attack speed and life on hit, which is terrible for many builds. It's just too time consuming to get a good one and bounties are obviously not the endgame for many people.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
September 04 2014 21:10 GMT
#18249
On September 05 2014 03:48 Frolossus wrote:
if you're gonna run nats slayer, run the ring as well for the 3 piece bonus

yeah, one dropped, but it was shit so i soul brother'd it.

thanks for advice peeps. i am going to play around with the stuff tonight if i have time.
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
September 04 2014 21:42 GMT
#18250
Davlok was interviewed by Blizzard - http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/14058226463
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
September 05 2014 00:10 GMT
#18251
so i've been thinking that anyone who still runs a pull monk or some sort of tank build for t6 farming could do boon of the hoarder +goldwrap?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-05 00:32:02
September 05 2014 00:20 GMT
#18252
not seeing how bows are better. even with breakpoint scaling, which did not change btw, your sentry damage is still split between cluster, ms, 3rd active (impale, EA etc) and sentry attack+rocket proc. the aspd advantage of bows only affects the latter two substantially. the majority of your damage is still cluster shots and ms shots. for bows to be competitive you'd need one with higher dps/ele dmg mod on it than a xbow.

edit: unless there is nonlinear breakpoint scaling...which i guess is possible. for the 2.85 breakpoint, sentries fire 3 times as fast as the slowest tier, while attack speed required is 2.6 times. this i suppose can give an advantage to bows if it is the case that xbows can't hit this breakpoint.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
September 05 2014 03:11 GMT
#18253
i feel that lightning sentry is 10000000% safer to play than cold/fire spec
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4135 Posts
September 05 2014 16:08 GMT
#18254
I need a calculator like d3rawr or d3up.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
September 06 2014 13:10 GMT
#18255
How do I calculate the chance of upgrading a gem?

Say I can clear up until GRift 20, will I still have a 10% chance to upgrade from 24 to 25?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21888 Posts
September 06 2014 13:12 GMT
#18256
On September 06 2014 22:10 SixStrings wrote:
How do I calculate the chance of upgrading a gem?

Say I can clear up until GRift 20, will I still have a 10% chance to upgrade from 24 to 25?

Its almost like something called google exists where it shows you page after page of charts that shows your question.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
September 06 2014 13:16 GMT
#18257
On September 06 2014 22:12 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 22:10 SixStrings wrote:
How do I calculate the chance of upgrading a gem?

Say I can clear up until GRift 20, will I still have a 10% chance to upgrade from 24 to 25?

Its almost like something called google exists where it shows you page after page of charts that shows your question.


Why would that be useful? Surely he knows the question he himself is asking...
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21888 Posts
September 06 2014 13:39 GMT
#18258
On September 06 2014 22:16 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 22:12 Gorsameth wrote:
On September 06 2014 22:10 SixStrings wrote:
How do I calculate the chance of upgrading a gem?

Say I can clear up until GRift 20, will I still have a 10% chance to upgrade from 24 to 25?

Its almost like something called google exists where it shows you page after page of charts that shows your question.


Why would that be useful? Surely he knows the question he himself is asking...

Oo He asked a dumb, easily googled question so I tell him to stop being lazy and google it.
No clue what your trying to say.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
September 06 2014 13:53 GMT
#18259
On September 06 2014 22:39 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 22:16 Ghanburighan wrote:
On September 06 2014 22:12 Gorsameth wrote:
On September 06 2014 22:10 SixStrings wrote:
How do I calculate the chance of upgrading a gem?

Say I can clear up until GRift 20, will I still have a 10% chance to upgrade from 24 to 25?

Its almost like something called google exists where it shows you page after page of charts that shows your question.


Why would that be useful? Surely he knows the question he himself is asking...

Oo He asked a dumb, easily googled question so I tell him to stop being lazy and google it.
No clue what your trying to say.

If you think the question is stupid then don't respond. If you think it's easy to find then just do that.

Here is a link Leg gem upgrade chance chart
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-07 02:55:04
September 07 2014 02:53 GMT
#18260
shotgun crusader is so fun
the animation cancel spends so much wrath
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