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PandaCore
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany553 Posts
April 11 2014 08:51 GMT
#16941
I really really hate Blackthorne (aka Trollthorne) with a passion.

3 hours of rifting with friends yesterday netted us 8! pieces of Blackthorne. Everyone found at least one piece, one friend found two and the unluckiest found 4! pieces. It's disheartening every time seeing that green beam and hoping for a class set item, just to be spoiled by the icon being Blackthorne.... honestly I wish we could salvage items before identifying them.
I has a flavor
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
April 11 2014 14:18 GMT
#16942
I feel you man, me and my friends have like 20-25 Blackthorne drops between ourselves ever since we got to 70. Most of it pants.
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
April 11 2014 14:20 GMT
#16943
Blackthorne does drop too much. I've been lucky to only have maybe 3 so far. Some of my friends are complaining about getting it all the time and getting only 1-2 pcs of their class sets.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 11 2014 15:10 GMT
#16944
man RNG so cruely lately, did 6 t3 rifts last night, got 1 leg and it was a dex roll fulminator (I'm a wiz). Please Diablo, give mercy.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 11 2014 15:49 GMT
#16945
On April 11 2014 15:57 ffswowsucks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 05:50 crms wrote:
so are crusaders viable now after the patch? I'm kind of annoyed/lazy to reroll my wiz to arcane or fire.

Yes they are im playing the light build and i always get another crusader with me so we can stack fists. Btw im soloing t4 with my crusader just fine. Ingame i got over 1 m dps and 10m tough And about 450k hp

can you link your profile? I'd love to check out a geared crusader.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 11 2014 16:47 GMT
#16946
i was actually pleased yesterday since a blackthorne's belt dropped and i gambled a blackthorne's armor. allowed me to finally upgrade my rare armor and legacy witching hour.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 11 2014 16:54 GMT
#16947
Okay, so after getting pretty fucking geared on my froz orb wizard. (around 630k unbuffed dmg (+52% cld skill dmg +15% arcane orb dmg), 5mil toughness unbuffed) (profile) I picked up slorak's yesterday, so probably going to transition to arcane disintegrate wizard. What are some of the BiS gear I should be looking for in Kadala's or crafting?
liftlift > tsm
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 11 2014 17:03 GMT
#16948
On April 12 2014 01:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Okay, so after getting pretty fucking geared on my froz orb wizard. (around 630k unbuffed dmg (+52% cld skill dmg +15% arcane orb dmg), 5mil toughness unbuffed) (profile) I picked up slorak's yesterday, so probably going to transition to arcane disintegrate wizard. What are some of the BiS gear I should be looking for in Kadala's or crafting?

andy's, triumvirate, new bracers, ammy with arcane dmg for starters.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 11 2014 17:12 GMT
#16949
On April 12 2014 02:03 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2014 01:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Okay, so after getting pretty fucking geared on my froz orb wizard. (around 630k unbuffed dmg (+52% cld skill dmg +15% arcane orb dmg), 5mil toughness unbuffed) (profile) I picked up slorak's yesterday, so probably going to transition to arcane disintegrate wizard. What are some of the BiS gear I should be looking for in Kadala's or crafting?

andy's, triumvirate, new bracers, ammy with arcane dmg for starters.

ammy sounds like a bitch to find/roll perfect stat group.
CC/CD/Int AND arcane damage. It's hard enough to find trifecta lol.
Also, how important is Arcane on Crit in Disintegrate build? How important is AS?
liftlift > tsm
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
April 11 2014 17:14 GMT
#16950
On April 12 2014 02:12 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2014 02:03 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 12 2014 01:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Okay, so after getting pretty fucking geared on my froz orb wizard. (around 630k unbuffed dmg (+52% cld skill dmg +15% arcane orb dmg), 5mil toughness unbuffed) (profile) I picked up slorak's yesterday, so probably going to transition to arcane disintegrate wizard. What are some of the BiS gear I should be looking for in Kadala's or crafting?

andy's, triumvirate, new bracers, ammy with arcane dmg for starters.

ammy sounds like a bitch to find/roll perfect stat group.
CC/CD/Int AND arcane damage. It's hard enough to find trifecta lol.
Also, how important is Arcane on Crit in Disintegrate build? How important is AS?

AS will make you run out of arcane power faster, and APoC is great for generating more arcane power.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 11 2014 17:20 GMT
#16951
On April 12 2014 02:12 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2014 02:03 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 12 2014 01:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Okay, so after getting pretty fucking geared on my froz orb wizard. (around 630k unbuffed dmg (+52% cld skill dmg +15% arcane orb dmg), 5mil toughness unbuffed) (profile) I picked up slorak's yesterday, so probably going to transition to arcane disintegrate wizard. What are some of the BiS gear I should be looking for in Kadala's or crafting?

andy's, triumvirate, new bracers, ammy with arcane dmg for starters.

ammy sounds like a bitch to find/roll perfect stat group.
CC/CD/Int AND arcane damage. It's hard enough to find trifecta lol.
Also, how important is Arcane on Crit in Disintegrate build? How important is AS?

tell me about it. i still havent upgraded my amulet. finding slorak's with a good roll has been a bitch as well.

here is my shitty character:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/dAPhREAk-1843/hero/3929813

apoc is a must i would say since you want to keep channeling and with fast rifts, you run out of ap fast. you want to use an ap generator as little as possible. AS is not important since it will just deplete your ap faster. focus should be CC/CHD/arcane dmg/CDR. its not bad to have AS, but it shouldnt take the slot of the more important four.

the way i play the build is disint for trash and then pop archon for all elites (or heavy, dangerous trash packs). CDR is important to make sure you can always pop archon. with 100 sec rune, 20% CDR passive, diamond in helm and a few CDR in armor, you can get it down relatively low. it sucks for low level runs (i.e, where everyone is running around like chickens with their heads off), but is great for high level runs because it is available so much.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-11 17:42:39
April 11 2014 17:39 GMT
#16952
I thought they buffed rifts but ever since that hot fix the drop rate has def gone down for me.

Edit: Wow just found out that certain things only drop from caches from certain acts.

I am such a noob lol, my poor templar trying to gear her up will probably take forever.
Never Knows Best.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 11 2014 17:46 GMT
#16953
On April 12 2014 02:39 Slaughter wrote:
I thought they buffed rifts but ever since that hot fix the drop rate has def gone down for me.

Edit: Wow just found out that certain things only drop from caches from certain acts.

I am such a noob lol, my poor templar trying to gear her up will probably take forever.

The problem I have with the drop rate changes is that it hits normal split cache farming really hard.
I used to be able to get tons of legs just doing split farming, and 1 shotting-elites. Now I'm lucky to get 2 rares off elite mob. At this point I've given up split farming (which was probably the best way to gear new level 70's to do torment plus stuff).

The problem was the drop rate increase in rift is that it doesn't fix the fact that low density rift maps still exist. I would have been just as happy with rift drop rates if they doubled or tripled density for the low density rift maps.
liftlift > tsm
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-11 17:57:23
April 11 2014 17:56 GMT
#16954
normal split farming was never meant to be the optimal way of playing the game. it still has its place right now but some people just did that all day and never played a rift.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 11 2014 17:58 GMT
#16955
On April 12 2014 02:46 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2014 02:39 Slaughter wrote:
I thought they buffed rifts but ever since that hot fix the drop rate has def gone down for me.

Edit: Wow just found out that certain things only drop from caches from certain acts.

I am such a noob lol, my poor templar trying to gear her up will probably take forever.

The problem I have with the drop rate changes is that it hits normal split cache farming really hard.
I used to be able to get tons of legs just doing split farming, and 1 shotting-elites. Now I'm lucky to get 2 rares off elite mob. At this point I've given up split farming (which was probably the best way to gear new level 70's to do torment plus stuff).

The problem was the drop rate increase in rift is that it doesn't fix the fact that low density rift maps still exist. I would have been just as happy with rift drop rates if they doubled or tripled density for the low density rift maps.

how was normal split cache farming effected?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-11 18:03:59
April 11 2014 17:59 GMT
#16956
On April 12 2014 02:58 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2014 02:46 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 12 2014 02:39 Slaughter wrote:
I thought they buffed rifts but ever since that hot fix the drop rate has def gone down for me.

Edit: Wow just found out that certain things only drop from caches from certain acts.

I am such a noob lol, my poor templar trying to gear her up will probably take forever.

The problem I have with the drop rate changes is that it hits normal split cache farming really hard.
I used to be able to get tons of legs just doing split farming, and 1 shotting-elites. Now I'm lucky to get 2 rares off elite mob. At this point I've given up split farming (which was probably the best way to gear new level 70's to do torment plus stuff).

The problem was the drop rate increase in rift is that it doesn't fix the fact that low density rift maps still exist. I would have been just as happy with rift drop rates if they doubled or tripled density for the low density rift maps.

how was normal split cache farming effected?

The elite packs have lower drop rate. So before you would skip to bounty and kill all elite pack on your way there. But now I'm not sure if elite packs are still worth doing.

On April 12 2014 02:56 oneofthem wrote:
normal split farming was never meant to be the optimal way of playing the game. it still has its place right now but some people just did that all day and never played a rift.

It was optimal for gearing non torment ready characters. And tbh nerfing it means it would take forever to get a character torment ready. The reason it's so effective is because hard to master is not rewarding to do. When you progress with character you want gear not increased xp or gold. Increased xp and gold only important once you already have the initial softwall of gear.
liftlift > tsm
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 11 2014 18:01 GMT
#16957
On April 12 2014 02:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2014 02:58 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 12 2014 02:46 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 12 2014 02:39 Slaughter wrote:
I thought they buffed rifts but ever since that hot fix the drop rate has def gone down for me.

Edit: Wow just found out that certain things only drop from caches from certain acts.

I am such a noob lol, my poor templar trying to gear her up will probably take forever.

The problem I have with the drop rate changes is that it hits normal split cache farming really hard.
I used to be able to get tons of legs just doing split farming, and 1 shotting-elites. Now I'm lucky to get 2 rares off elite mob. At this point I've given up split farming (which was probably the best way to gear new level 70's to do torment plus stuff).

The problem was the drop rate increase in rift is that it doesn't fix the fact that low density rift maps still exist. I would have been just as happy with rift drop rates if they doubled or tripled density for the low density rift maps.

how was normal split cache farming effected?

The elite packs have lower drop rate. So before you would skip to bounty and kill all elite pack on your way there. But now I'm not sure if they're still worth doing.

is that an unlisted change? i didnt know they changed elite drop rates.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 11 2014 18:08 GMT
#16958
On April 12 2014 03:01 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2014 02:59 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 12 2014 02:58 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 12 2014 02:46 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 12 2014 02:39 Slaughter wrote:
I thought they buffed rifts but ever since that hot fix the drop rate has def gone down for me.

Edit: Wow just found out that certain things only drop from caches from certain acts.

I am such a noob lol, my poor templar trying to gear her up will probably take forever.

The problem I have with the drop rate changes is that it hits normal split cache farming really hard.
I used to be able to get tons of legs just doing split farming, and 1 shotting-elites. Now I'm lucky to get 2 rares off elite mob. At this point I've given up split farming (which was probably the best way to gear new level 70's to do torment plus stuff).

The problem was the drop rate increase in rift is that it doesn't fix the fact that low density rift maps still exist. I would have been just as happy with rift drop rates if they doubled or tripled density for the low density rift maps.

how was normal split cache farming effected?

The elite packs have lower drop rate. So before you would skip to bounty and kill all elite pack on your way there. But now I'm not sure if they're still worth doing.

is that an unlisted change? i didnt know they changed elite drop rates.

Here's the hotfix.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12471197317
Looks like it's 'uniques' not elites. Eitherway cache farming in normal has dropped considerably less legs for me.

liftlift > tsm
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
April 11 2014 19:25 GMT
#16959
Well either way you need to do bounties to get into rifts so wouldn't normal cache farming still be optimal because it rapidly gets you fragments + the occasional leg once in a while? While doing torment bounties might give more legs and such but its a lot slower, especially for players who can do torment but have to take their time.
Never Knows Best.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 11 2014 19:37 GMT
#16960
I also think part of it is to try and get people over the "Rifts are only worth doing on T1 or better" mentality. I know for sure that I and many people I've played with felt using shards on anything less than T1 rifts is wasting shards.

I would expect that on some level they want people to be Rifting on non-Torment difficulties.
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