EPTbad rift is less bad if you dont backtrack. you should have an idea of the rift density pretty fast and adjust clear pattern accordingly
mobility is valuable in precisely this manner allowing you to skip more time spent traveling bad zones
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
bad rift is less bad if you dont backtrack. you should have an idea of the rift density pretty fast and adjust clear pattern accordingly mobility is valuable in precisely this manner allowing you to skip more time spent traveling bad zones | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10142 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On April 11 2014 02:56 Godwrath wrote: Density depends on the rift itself., but if i get the ones with higher density, i just farm the hell out of it before delivering the quest, even if i had killed the rift boss, to get the most out of the key. Some are actually insanely clustered, like for example the graveyard one. im doing the same. if its a good rift, i continue, if its a bad one, i end it right after the rift boss is down. this way, i maximize the time of efficient farming that i get out of my rift keys. because in the long run, all you wanna be doing is rifts, so that farming them takes away from efficiency. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
much more fun than doubling droprates. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Essentially this the game feels like. make new character, get to 70. play solo til you're geared enough to do split cache runs on normal. do split cache runs til you're geared enough to do t1 (in group or solo). then continue farming t1 rifts (in group or solo), if you can solo t1, you can probably do t2 in groups, and t3 if you have premade group with good monk tank. you continue this bit, until you have enough gear to solo t3-4 by yourself. This period of time is hugeeeeeeee, and that wall is sort of annoying to climb. I think there needs to be a more linear progression between difficulty and reward. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 11 2014 05:50 crms wrote: so are crusaders viable now after the patch? I'm kind of annoyed/lazy to reroll my wiz to arcane or fire. froz orb wiz still good... the nerf was barely felt. (unless you were super reliant on electrocute shenanigans). the mirrorball nerf was pretty hard doe. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22365 Posts
On April 11 2014 05:50 crms wrote: so are crusaders viable now after the patch? I'm kind of annoyed/lazy to reroll my wiz to arcane or fire. meh damage still feels terrible. | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
On April 11 2014 05:50 crms wrote: so are crusaders viable now after the patch? I'm kind of annoyed/lazy to reroll my wiz to arcane or fire. Arcane is a lot better than fire. You can play a desintegrate and/or archon wizard with it. Desintegrate is just a better skill than meteor or heat wave for farming. I was using Arcane Torrent before but grew frustrated with the delay between click and damage so now I'm using desintegrate with the short cone rune (+ 15y passive damage buff). I'm trying to gather cooldown reduction gear too, to have archon almost permanent and a very quick teleport for faster farming time. Right now, what I'm frustrated with is that trying to do higher torments is just so unrewarding. Monster HP go up by like 50% but legendary drop only by 15%. It ends up making farming lower torments better if you have difficulty at higer levels. The problem doing that is it makes defensive skills pretty useless and the game pretty boring. Why can't they make getting up rift levels the purpose of the game ? So that taking a few defensives is worth it because even if it takes double the time to kill an elite pack, the reward is worth it... I don't know I have somewhat more fun kiting and using mirror image at the right time than simply stacking all damage buffs and then only using my right hand to spam desintegrate. But then the reward is terrible. | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On April 11 2014 06:14 rezoacken wrote: Arcane is a lot better than fire. You can play a desintegrate and/or archon wizard with it. Desintegrate is just a better skill than meteor or heat wave for farming. I was using Arcane Torrent before but grew frustrated with the delay between click and damage so now I'm using desintegrate with the short cone rune (+ 15y passive damage buff). I'm trying to gather cooldown reduction gear too, to have archon almost permanent and a very quick teleport for faster farming time. Right now, what I'm frustrated with is that trying to do higher torments is just so unrewarding. Monster HP go up by like 50% but legendary drop only by 15%. It ends up making farming lower torments better if you have difficulty at higer levels. The problem doing that is it makes defensive skills pretty useless and the game pretty boring. Why can't they make getting up rift levels the purpose of the game ? So that taking a few defensives is worth it because even if it takes double the time to kill an elite pack, the reward is worth it... I don't know I have somewhat more fun kiting and using mirror image at the right time than simply stacking all damage buffs and then only using my right hand to spam desintegrate. But then the reward is terrible. well, higher torments are rewarding in terms of exp. maximizing loot per hour will not always remain the priority. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On April 11 2014 05:53 wei2coolman wrote: froz orb wiz still good... the nerf was barely felt. (unless you were super reliant on electrocute shenanigans). the mirrorball nerf was pretty hard doe. orb is still 'good' enough to clear content but it's severely neutered compared to what it was. I'm not sure how you can you say the nerf was 'barely felt' lol. I felt it, a lot. | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
On April 11 2014 06:29 Black Gun wrote: well, higher torments are rewarding in terms of exp. maximizing loot per hour will not always remain the priority. Maybe but that still doesn't change the fact that imo, the current design is just too much aimed toward easy farming rather than a more reasonable risk/reward. But I'm a guy that felt inferno difficulty was enjoyable (not the loot system though) so there's that :p | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On April 11 2014 02:56 Godwrath wrote: Density depends on the rift itself., but if i get the ones with higher density, i just farm the hell out of it before delivering the quest, even if i had killed the rift boss, to get the most out of the key. Some are actually insanely clustered, like for example the graveyard one. I feel like rift density varies per floor. When I get shitty density, I move to the next floor the moment I see the entrance. When I get good density, I stay until I full clear or until the guardian appears. Doing the former has resulted in me seeing the rift exit before spawning the guardian. I went back to earlier floors to get the last few percent needed. | ||
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
On April 10 2014 22:11 Godwrath wrote: Did 4 rifts, no legendaries, suddenly, 8 legendaries in half an hour lol. RNG is hilarious sometimes. Yeah some people still have bad luck in rifts, others get insane amount of drops.I am still getting average 1legendary per rift for some reason, therefore im happy  my brother is pissed though haha | ||
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
On April 11 2014 09:31 Mithhaike wrote: Yeah some people still have bad luck in rifts, others get insane amount of drops.I am still getting average 1legendary per rift for some reason, therefore im happy my brother is pissed though haha What difficulty are you doing it on? 1 per rift would be godlike for me, but I'm running normal rifts in <5 minutes each. | ||
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
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heartlxp
United States1258 Posts
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KillerSOS
United States4207 Posts
On April 11 2014 12:39 heartlxp wrote: so how come ppl don't do bounties in normal and rifts in torment? That's generally what people do actually | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On April 11 2014 12:39 heartlxp wrote: so how come ppl don't do bounties in normal and rifts in torment? A fair amount of the people in the guild are geared enough that split bounties on T1 is only marginally slower than on normal. We also tend to do rifts T2-T3, and I suspect that by May T4/T5 will start becoming a thing. | ||
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ffswowsucks
Greece2297 Posts
On April 11 2014 05:50 crms wrote: so are crusaders viable now after the patch? I'm kind of annoyed/lazy to reroll my wiz to arcane or fire. Yes they are im playing the light build and i always get another crusader with me so we can stack fists. Btw im soloing t4 with my crusader just fine. Ingame i got over 1 m dps and 10m tough And about 450k hp | ||
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