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Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
April 07 2014 21:04 GMT
#16841
The shoulders can't be rolled higher, it is a lvl 60 crafted Seven Sins. I don't have much problem surviving so it's not on my priority list since the slot offers very little offensive stats.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 07 2014 21:07 GMT
#16842
On April 08 2014 06:01 Glacierz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:39 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:26 Glacierz wrote:
Any suggestions on what I should gamble next?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Glacier-1662/hero/3184969

Need a better offhand like Shard/Fulminator, but weapons are so expensive to gamble...

why do you have plus cold dmg and plus weapon throw dmg, but you dont use cold skills or weapon throw? i would roll those useless items (bracers/belt) into useful ones.


I've already rerolled them, the rerolled property was 6% cc on the bracer. The belt is not my main, its just for farming cuz it makes me run fast

i meant gamble them.

the +19% cold is a wasted line item on your bracers
the +14% weapon throw is also a wasted line item.

you can get better bracers and belts, or change your build to make them useful.

i also think you can get a much better helm and amulet, but i would put those secondary to the two above.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
April 07 2014 21:17 GMT
#16843
Can all the old legendaries still drop? Like could I get a lvl 70 Thing of the Deep ?
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 21:24:48
April 07 2014 21:17 GMT
#16844
Helm is difficult to upgrade without losing dps (will probably need well rolled andy/mempo?), ammy gives the set bonus for 10% increase dmg to elite, probably also a loss in EDPS if upgrading to something else. I have an IK belt and a crafted fleeting strap for better tank/dps builds, only the new lvl 70 witching hour would actually be a significant upgrade for me I think... I actually feel like the boots are the weak points of my gear... The new ice climbers are pretty much non-set BiS right?
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
April 07 2014 21:22 GMT
#16845
Did not know this existed:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/ancestors-grace

Pretty cool for HC I guess.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 07 2014 21:24 GMT
#16846
On April 08 2014 06:17 Glacierz wrote:
Helm is difficult to upgrade without losing dps (will probably need well rolled andy/mempo?), ammy gives the set bonus for 10% increase dmg to elite, probably also a loss in EDPS if upgrading to something else. I have an IK belt and a crafted fleeting strap for better tank/dps builds, only the new lvl 70 witching hour would actually be a significant upgrade for me I think... I actually feel like the boots are the weak points of my gear...

with your helm, i would go for andys.

with your ring, you dont need the amulet to get the 10% increase, just the 10% decrease in dmg.

for the belt, you are losing one primary stat, so, of course, it can be upgraded. same with bracers. these two seem the most easily upgradeable unless you are willing to change your build to make those line items useful.

your boots have str and +dmg for a skill you use. other than legend effects, what do you hope to get?
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 21:31:11
April 07 2014 21:29 GMT
#16847
On April 08 2014 06:24 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 06:17 Glacierz wrote:
Helm is difficult to upgrade without losing dps (will probably need well rolled andy/mempo?), ammy gives the set bonus for 10% increase dmg to elite, probably also a loss in EDPS if upgrading to something else. I have an IK belt and a crafted fleeting strap for better tank/dps builds, only the new lvl 70 witching hour would actually be a significant upgrade for me I think... I actually feel like the boots are the weak points of my gear...

with your helm, i would go for andys.

with your ring, you dont need the amulet to get the 10% increase, just the 10% decrease in dmg.

for the belt, you are losing one primary stat, so, of course, it can be upgraded. same with bracers. these two seem the most easily upgradeable unless you are willing to change your build to make those line items useful.

your boots have str and +dmg for a skill you use. other than legend effects, what do you hope to get?


WW actually does the same thing as the legend effect, so the boots are weak on a barb compared to a ice climber (I find my barb weakest against chained ice bombs from elites).

You have a good point about the bracers, I will probably gamble that next. It's a shame Cold builds aren't very good on str chars.

Regarding the ring, you need a min of 2 pieces for any bonus, so I actually don't need the ring, but definitely need the 2 Blackthorne pieces.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 07 2014 21:32 GMT
#16848
i did not know that about the ring... not as powerful as i thought. i was farming for it because i had a bunch of one off sets, but it wouldnt have helped me any way.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
April 07 2014 21:48 GMT
#16849
The ring probably allows for some insane combos when you can replace a set item with a leg that synergizes well. It's probably still worth farming when new legs are released in the next content patch.
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
April 07 2014 22:24 GMT
#16850
On April 08 2014 06:17 Bibbit wrote:
Can all the old legendaries still drop? Like could I get a lvl 70 Thing of the Deep ?


Yes, the old legendaries can still drop.
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
April 07 2014 22:30 GMT
#16851
On April 08 2014 06:48 Glacierz wrote:
The ring probably allows for some insane combos when you can replace a set item with a leg that synergizes well. It's probably still worth farming when new legs are released in the next content patch.


Exactly. The barb can equip both the Immortal King and the Eyes of the Earth set with that ring. This means he can get eternal Call of the Ancients along with an Earthquake every time he leaps.

On April 08 2014 05:26 Glacierz wrote:
Any suggestions on what I should gamble next?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Glacier-1662/hero/3184969

Need a better offhand like Shard/Fulminator, but weapons are so expensive to gamble...


With your amount of crit chance, I'd use WotB Slaughter over Insanity. The 300% proc chance effects the target enemy as well so you'll easily do more damage after a few crits.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
April 08 2014 05:58 GMT
#16852
i think that firebird's finery is the coolest class set right now
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
April 08 2014 07:14 GMT
#16853
On April 08 2014 06:22 Glacierz wrote:
Did not know this existed:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/ancestors-grace

Pretty cool for HC I guess.


No because it has up to 2 wasted affix rolls on the primary damage item. Amulet is there for 10% cc and 100% cd, it's pointless to have vita, loh and movespeed on it at the same time. Just losing like 30% sheet DPS from that is worse for your survivability than the passive.

"Get out of jail free" passives (like this one or unstable anomaly) are generally overvalued on HC, because you typically die only when getting yourself in a horrible position, or due to a disconnect. People run around with so much toughness that getting killed "accidentially" is almost impossible. This way, reviving in the same spot where you died is not as good as you might think. You will still be jailed and cornered, standing in a plagued pool with your survival skills on cooldowns (because if not, how did you even happen to die?). WD is a nice exception to that since his passive breaks CC, makes you immune to damage and ignores monster collision at the same time, but that's the reason he's been the monster of HC before RoS.

Also, dunno why they made so many legendaries with movement speed, you get max ms from paragon points, all of those are wasted rolls.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 08 2014 07:24 GMT
#16854
Also, the ''funny thing is''

that item was bugged for a while causing numerous people to lose their chars on HC.
WriterXiao8~~
PandaCore
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany553 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-08 07:30:14
April 08 2014 07:28 GMT
#16855
On April 08 2014 14:58 Frolossus wrote:
i think that firebird's finery is the coolest class set right now

I want to get it just for the looks, sadly it doesn't unlock for transmog though, I hope they find a way to change that.

Not into the set bonus very much, I'm currently looking forward to getting 3 Tal Rasha pieces (with Ring of Royal Grandeur, to reduce the items needed for set bonus).

Especially with the passive where you need 4 different elemental damage types to gain a 5% damage boost each and a setup where you use this, Tal Rasha sounds way more awesome. Summon a meteor for every elemental damage type every 8 seconds.

So basically every 8 seconds you throw down 4 free meteors for arcane, cold, lightning and fire.

Sadly I keep getting trolled by Blackthorne drops. And yesterday I found the same pair of boots within minutes ... again ...

At least I do have 1 set piece of Tal Rasha and 1 for Firebird so far (and probably 10+ for Blackthorne).
I has a flavor
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10163 Posts
April 08 2014 11:38 GMT
#16856
Is the patch really coming today guys ?

Time to try out the crusader again if it is :D
PandaCore
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany553 Posts
April 08 2014 12:44 GMT
#16857
On April 08 2014 20:38 Godwrath wrote:
Is the patch really coming today guys ?

Time to try out the crusader again if it is :D

EU will be patched tomorrow during 5am and 11am CEST
I has a flavor
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 08 2014 14:05 GMT
#16858
if there was no minimum for the ring then it would be so op lol. can you imagine wearing one piece of every set to get 10 set bonuses stacked?
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
PandaCore
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany553 Posts
April 08 2014 14:18 GMT
#16859
On April 08 2014 23:05 oneofthem wrote:
if there was no minimum for the ring then it would be so op lol. can you imagine wearing one piece of every set to get 10 set bonuses stacked?

I was actually thinking about which sets are optimal to combine together with the ring.
You can easily combine 2 or 3 sets, if you'd actually manage to get set items for different item slots and depending how far down the set bonuses you want to go.
I has a flavor
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
April 08 2014 14:30 GMT
#16860
Too bad most of the the really cool set effects only happen at higher set counts, so you can't go too crazy with the combos.
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