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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 28 2012 05:56 GMT
#14281
On September 28 2012 07:45 Cascade wrote:
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On September 28 2012 07:15 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On September 27 2012 23:15 Heh_ wrote:
On September 27 2012 23:09 Durak wrote:
On September 27 2012 22:50 zomgE wrote:
On September 27 2012 20:52 Loomies wrote:
I started getting back into D3 since theres been alot of downtime for me. Currently a paragon level 31 monk and it's still surprising on how Blizzard rigged the drop rate. I'm not expecting a legendary/set piece every hour of farming but you seriously can't expect a typical person play DOZENS of hours and still not find a set piece. The few legendaries that I found the past 20 paragon levels were bad affixes and even 2 Izzuccob level 55 1h DH legendaries in Act 3 inferno.

It's really a slap in the face that Mike said this". On the flipside, we are also committed to ensuring you have a great experience with Diablo III without feeling like the auction house is mandatory, which was never our intention. Thank you for all the feedback about that." It seems like 1.0.5 will fix some of the problems but it's still baffling that they alot of people left the game.

legendaries and sets aren't mandatory to easily beat the game or farm it.

Still a little dumb to have played the game for 350 hours and yet never found a set item. I've also only found ~5 legendaries.

They should have made more low level sets that had a lot of pieces and given them a higher drop chance. I remember playing D2 and I would find set items, albeit terrible, as I was playing through the game. They were fun to collect and then use on another character when you rolled something else.

And then people will whine that they're finding crappy sets instead of the best ones.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Every other dungeon crawler in existence lets you get tons of the highest tier items, and many of them are crap. And most of those games were well acclaimed even after 4 months.

You want to pretend that it's a Morton's Fork situation, but years of history disagree with you.

Does any other of the big dungeon crawlers have a well developed and frequently used auction house like diablo 3? Honest question, I do not know.

As I said above, I think the problem is the large number of players, and that a large fraction use the auction house regularly. So with many thousands of people trying to sell their loot to you, it is not likely that your drops will be any good in comparison. I think we can agree that without the auction house, there would be a lot less complaints about the "crap drops".

No. Without the auction house, there would be plenty of complaints about terrible Legendary and Set drop rates, because that's half of the incentive of item farming.

If Rares were unique and interesting, with a bunch of fun mods to try out, then no, Legendary and Set items wouldn't matter. But that's not how Diablo 3 was designed, and that's not how most dungeon crawlers were designed.

The "Unique" items are the ones with the quirky mods, even if it's something as simple as Movement speed on pants. And as long as the Unique stuff are the "cool items", that will always be the interest of people farming items.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
September 28 2012 10:23 GMT
#14282
So if you have 300MF currently unbuffed, you get 25% MF per MP level up to 550% at MP10. Monster HP ramps up non-linearly. So outside of farming for Hellfire Ring parts, it seems like MP1 is by far the most efficient way to farm items. (XP scales closer to MP though) just due to the fact even at MP10 your MF is not doubled, but the mobs take 21 times longer to kill (and hit harder too). At MP5, your MF is increased 42% vs mob hp/damage of 4 times MP1... so unless you can one shot MP1 elites, the overall every-day difficulty just got even more snoozefesty.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/career
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
September 28 2012 12:09 GMT
#14283
well if you look at the people with insanely good gear the 21times longer is 10s a monster (not bosses). Still good, but I think most people will farm at monster lv 3-6 depending on gear
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
September 28 2012 13:35 GMT
#14284
Yay... lost a bidding war because the AH decided to glitch out on me.
=Þ
Burrfoot
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States1176 Posts
September 28 2012 20:30 GMT
#14285
On September 28 2012 21:09 DODswe4 wrote:
well if you look at the people with insanely good gear the 21times longer is 10s a monster (not bosses). Still good, but I think most people will farm at monster lv 3-6 depending on gear



Yea the main unknown now is how much MF can affect Hellfire ring drops, if its 10% at MP1 and linear to 100% at MP10. But it's all a grind in the end.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Davlok-1847/career
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
September 28 2012 22:23 GMT
#14286
Hey guys, is there anyway I can save the hotkeys setting? I play my account and my friend's as well. However we both have totally different hotkeys so it's hard to switch cuz it takes so long to re-setup. Also the skill + runes as well. Notice that we both play DH.
Zyrnak
Profile Joined February 2011
United States179 Posts
September 28 2012 23:34 GMT
#14287
I'm playing a wizard with mediocre gear, I can kill things at the very beginning of Act 3 but it takes me a long time. I am dead broke to the point where I hope I get enough money to pay my repair bills. Should I go back and farm Act 1 or should I just keep trying in Act 3 hoping to get good stuff?
Sky_
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada116 Posts
September 28 2012 23:44 GMT
#14288
On September 29 2012 08:34 Zyrnak wrote:
I'm playing a wizard with mediocre gear, I can kill things at the very beginning of Act 3 but it takes me a long time. I am dead broke to the point where I hope I get enough money to pay my repair bills. Should I go back and farm Act 1 or should I just keep trying in Act 3 hoping to get good stuff?


Go back to act 1 :D
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 29 2012 00:09 GMT
#14289
On September 29 2012 08:34 Zyrnak wrote:
I'm playing a wizard with mediocre gear, I can kill things at the very beginning of Act 3 but it takes me a long time. I am dead broke to the point where I hope I get enough money to pay my repair bills. Should I go back and farm Act 1 or should I just keep trying in Act 3 hoping to get good stuff?


You want to be able to efficiently farm act 3 before 1.05 hits. Farming act 1 would be really slow due to low chance of dropping level 63 items. I would join pub games for the last quest or last 2 quests in act 3 and farm that. Alternatively, you can add people in the A3 farming thread and see if any of them will do some runs with you. A lot of people on TL are geared to the point of cakewalking A3.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
September 29 2012 01:28 GMT
#14290
On September 29 2012 09:09 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2012 08:34 Zyrnak wrote:
I'm playing a wizard with mediocre gear, I can kill things at the very beginning of Act 3 but it takes me a long time. I am dead broke to the point where I hope I get enough money to pay my repair bills. Should I go back and farm Act 1 or should I just keep trying in Act 3 hoping to get good stuff?


You want to be able to efficiently farm act 3 before 1.05 hits. Farming act 1 would be really slow due to low chance of dropping level 63 items. I would join pub games for the last quest or last 2 quests in act 3 and farm that. Alternatively, you can add people in the A3 farming thread and see if any of them will do some runs with you. A lot of people on TL are geared to the point of cakewalking A3.


You can also buy pre-cleared runs on d2jsp.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
September 30 2012 18:09 GMT
#14291
20 hours without a single legendary, don't know what's happening. 300%mf or more, 40 legendaries after 1.04 (one every 3.5-4 hours average), and my farming speed is costantly rising. Now I'm stuck.
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
September 30 2012 20:43 GMT
#14292
Anyone have a clue about d2jsp? People keep trading forum gold for ingame gold, but they get like 1mil ingame gold for 10$ worth of forum gold, same 10$ nets like 8mil on a goldsite. Why do people keep buying forum gold? I really dont get it.
zomgE
Profile Joined January 2012
498 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-30 21:07:51
September 30 2012 21:07 GMT
#14293
most people don't buy their forum gold they've just gathered it from trading in D2 and now d3 etc and you "can't" sell fg to $ so they just rather trade it for igg or whatever
serum321
Profile Joined January 2012
United States606 Posts
October 01 2012 13:00 GMT
#14294
So I got a maximus sword this past weekend and gave it to my enchantress to test it out. I figured it would be like other legendary effects and more so just for show, but was I wrong. The demonic slave procs ALL the time, he tanks like a champ AND he does probably somewhere around 30k dps, I've seen him hit 20-50k per swing. I was rolling a3 in my mf set and didn't notice for awhile, it was doing such a good job keeping mobs away from me.
Tears.Of.The.Moon
Profile Joined September 2009
Slovenia715 Posts
October 01 2012 18:51 GMT
#14295
Just wondering if its worth it to farm act boses, do they have better drop chances for legendary drops than elites or is it not realy noticable?
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 01 2012 19:11 GMT
#14296
On October 02 2012 03:51 Tears.Of.The.Moon wrote:
Just wondering if its worth it to farm act boses, do they have better drop chances for legendary drops than elites or is it not realy noticable?

killing bosses is a natural progression of the game. find areas with the most elites, kill them, kill bosses and then restart. if you have five stack NV, bosses usually drop 2-3 rares and occasionally legendaries.
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
October 01 2012 19:16 GMT
#14297
On October 02 2012 04:11 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2012 03:51 Tears.Of.The.Moon wrote:
Just wondering if its worth it to farm act boses, do they have better drop chances for legendary drops than elites or is it not realy noticable?

killing bosses is a natural progression of the game. find areas with the most elites, kill them, kill bosses and then restart. if you have five stack NV, bosses usually drop 2-3 rares and occasionally legendaries.

On 5 NV Champ/Rare packs have 1 guaranteed rare item and drop around 4-5 items alltogether. Bosses have 2 guaranteed rares and drop around 8-10 items. So generally it drops more items, but you don't have more chance of dropping legendaries. Plus bosses usually take more time to kill than regular packs.
oh, hai
serum321
Profile Joined January 2012
United States606 Posts
October 01 2012 19:20 GMT
#14298
On October 02 2012 03:51 Tears.Of.The.Moon wrote:
Just wondering if its worth it to farm act boses, do they have better drop chances for legendary drops than elites or is it not realy noticable?

Not really noticeable in my experience, I've found about a dozen legendaries over the course of my playtime and only 1 of them was off a named, the butcher. Then maybe 2 or 3 from elites and the rest from normal mobs and one from one of those floor tiles before 1.02.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
October 01 2012 19:38 GMT
#14299
I've found about a dozen uniques and all but 2 were from white mobs. The other two were from a champion group and off the dried eggs in act 2 (Arreat's Law heh).
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-01 19:51:51
October 01 2012 19:50 GMT
#14300
On October 02 2012 04:38 Wuster wrote:
I've found about a dozen uniques and all but 2 were from white mobs. The other two were from a champion group and off the dried eggs in act 2 (Arreat's Law heh).


Yeah that pretty much sums up my experience, cept I've had one legendary come from a resplendent.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
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