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On September 27 2012 23:09 Durak wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2012 22:50 zomgE wrote:On September 27 2012 20:52 Loomies wrote:
I started getting back into D3 since theres been alot of downtime for me. Currently a paragon level 31 monk and it's still surprising on how Blizzard rigged the drop rate. I'm not expecting a legendary/set piece every hour of farming but you seriously can't expect a typical person play DOZENS of hours and still not find a set piece. The few legendaries that I found the past 20 paragon levels were bad affixes and even 2 Izzuccob level 55 1h DH legendaries in Act 3 inferno.
It's really a slap in the face that Mike said this". On the flipside, we are also committed to ensuring you have a great experience with Diablo III without feeling like the auction house is mandatory, which was never our intention. Thank you for all the feedback about that." It seems like 1.0.5 will fix some of the problems but it's still baffling that they alot of people left the game. legendaries and sets aren't mandatory to easily beat the game or farm it. Still a little dumb to have played the game for 350 hours and yet never found a set item. I've also only found ~5 legendaries. They should have made more low level sets that had a lot of pieces and given them a higher drop chance. I remember playing D2 and I would find set items, albeit terrible, as I was playing through the game. They were fun to collect and then use on another character when you rolled something else.
And then people will whine that they're finding crappy sets instead of the best ones.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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On September 27 2012 23:15 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2012 23:09 Durak wrote:On September 27 2012 22:50 zomgE wrote:On September 27 2012 20:52 Loomies wrote:
I started getting back into D3 since theres been alot of downtime for me. Currently a paragon level 31 monk and it's still surprising on how Blizzard rigged the drop rate. I'm not expecting a legendary/set piece every hour of farming but you seriously can't expect a typical person play DOZENS of hours and still not find a set piece. The few legendaries that I found the past 20 paragon levels were bad affixes and even 2 Izzuccob level 55 1h DH legendaries in Act 3 inferno.
It's really a slap in the face that Mike said this". On the flipside, we are also committed to ensuring you have a great experience with Diablo III without feeling like the auction house is mandatory, which was never our intention. Thank you for all the feedback about that." It seems like 1.0.5 will fix some of the problems but it's still baffling that they alot of people left the game. legendaries and sets aren't mandatory to easily beat the game or farm it. Still a little dumb to have played the game for 350 hours and yet never found a set item. I've also only found ~5 legendaries. They should have made more low level sets that had a lot of pieces and given them a higher drop chance. I remember playing D2 and I would find set items, albeit terrible, as I was playing through the game. They were fun to collect and then use on another character when you rolled something else. And then people will whine that they're finding crappy sets instead of the best ones. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Mmm, I get the feeling that it's the large number of players together with the ease to trade with everyone else through the AH that devalues everything you find. There are many thousand of players out there farming item to sell to you, what are the chances that you will find something better yourself? It's the same discussion that we had in the "1 good rare in 1000" thread, and that has been going on essentially since release. And I still don't think that anyone has come up with a good solution that would last for more than a few weeks.
Somehow I get the feeling that the game got too popular, and the trading got too user friendly for it's own good.
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Question for the players running around with MF gear on.
Are you gearing to have decent gear with lots of MF or are you gearing to have awesome gear with decent MF?
I haven't played since 1.03 - and I have an MF gear set to switch when needed. But as I understand it now, many are using a main set of gear with MF on it.. :| Kind of confused what I should be doing now!
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On September 27 2012 21:12 Hairy wrote:
I heard that lvl63 amulets and rings will be possible next patch; what about mighty (barbarian) belts? Currently their highest lvl is also 62, so if lvl63 ones are possible I'd probably prefer to wait. I can't find this information on PTR forums from what I've seen, and I can't get on PTR myself :|
If anyone was wondering, I've concluded that I believe it WILL be possible to get new mighty belts with better stats. I still don't know for sure, but all indications point that way. This may mean it's possible to roll >3% lifesteal.
If anyone knows for sure, or can point me towards information that would indicate otherwise, I would still be very glad to hear it.
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No, unless they introduce a new 3d model or at least copy paste one to be ilvl 63. All class specific items like m.belts s.stones, cloaks, wiz hats, etc cap out at 62. But with affixes rolling in 1.05, they will roll to 63 anyways ... but in life steal's case even 1 h weapons cap out at 3% so don't bet on iLvL 63 rolling higher.
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I edited my post slightly for clarity. I know the items themselves will only reach i62, but they can ROLL up to i63 come next patch. This means we should be getting mighty belts with more strength/vit/AR etc. The lifesteal question is still up in the air, as I can't find anyone who knows either way.
The frustrating thing is that anyone on PTR could tell me in <5 seconds :| If anyone here IS on PTR, can you please please please just search for belts with 3.1% lifesteal and tell me if there are any results? TY
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For those curious as to what iLvL 63 affixes on any MP1+ jewelry will mean: and why you should sell anything über now...
Ring
ias - up to Assailing tier 2 (10-11%)
loh - up to Mangling (479)
crit- up to Flaying helm/bracer cap (6%)
crit Damage - up to Merciless (35-50%)
MF - up to Seeking tier 2 (19-20%)
GF - up to Prosperous tier 2 (21-25%)
Amulet
ias - up to Assailing tier 2 (10-11%)
loh - up to weapon cap (959)
crit- up to Flaying glove cap (10%)
crit Damage - up to Merciless (66-100%)
MF - up to Seeking tier 2 (41-45%)
GF - up to Prosperous tier 2 (41-50%)
This also means all current AND future legendary jewelry will NOT be as good as a rare, so as with every patch... Sell now! Heh
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I don't run MF but I've found 5+ sets and 20+ legendaries since the patch O_o Plevel 43
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legendary jewelry can roll new mods. so a nat ring for example can roll 6 crits as one of its random mods.
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On September 28 2012 01:41 oneofthem wrote:
legendary jewelry can roll new mods. so a nat ring for example can roll 6 crits as one of its random mods.
Wrong. Don't just make shit up and hope its true. Yes PTRs can and will change before release but do a little research :-D
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6679558918?page=3#56
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i wasn't making up stuff. just was not very up to date on blue posts. okay. legendary rings apparently roll with a different set of mods.
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On September 27 2012 23:09 Durak wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2012 22:50 zomgE wrote:On September 27 2012 20:52 Loomies wrote:
I started getting back into D3 since theres been alot of downtime for me. Currently a paragon level 31 monk and it's still surprising on how Blizzard rigged the drop rate. I'm not expecting a legendary/set piece every hour of farming but you seriously can't expect a typical person play DOZENS of hours and still not find a set piece. The few legendaries that I found the past 20 paragon levels were bad affixes and even 2 Izzuccob level 55 1h DH legendaries in Act 3 inferno.
It's really a slap in the face that Mike said this". On the flipside, we are also committed to ensuring you have a great experience with Diablo III without feeling like the auction house is mandatory, which was never our intention. Thank you for all the feedback about that." It seems like 1.0.5 will fix some of the problems but it's still baffling that they alot of people left the game. legendaries and sets aren't mandatory to easily beat the game or farm it. Still a little dumb to have played the game for 350 hours and yet never found a set item. I've also only found ~5 legendaries. They should have made more low level sets that had a lot of pieces and given them a higher drop chance. I remember playing D2 and I would find set items, albeit terrible, as I was playing through the game. They were fun to collect and then use on another character when you rolled something else.
I agree, Diablo 2 was fun :-)
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On September 28 2012 01:51 oneofthem wrote:
i wasn't making up stuff. just was not very up to date on blue posts. okay. legendary rings apparently roll with a different set of mods.
It would have been nice if all these crappy iLvL 58-62 legendaries could roll 63 affixes but no, that won't happen. Nor will crafting from the BS or vendor items. But pots and chests will all drop 63 affix items! Woo
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On September 28 2012 01:51 oneofthem wrote:
i wasn't making up stuff. just was not very up to date on blue posts. okay. legendary rings apparently roll with a different set of mods.
Isn't drawing conclusions without any solid evidence the definition of making stuff up? The blue posts are just refuting rumors.
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I have reason to believe MF is broken after 330 or so. I was getting 5-6 a day up until paragon 80, so far I've found about only 20 from level 80 - 96 which is like, a bajillion runs with over 350 mf.
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On September 28 2012 03:59 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 01:51 oneofthem wrote:
i wasn't making up stuff. just was not very up to date on blue posts. okay. legendary rings apparently roll with a different set of mods.
Isn't drawing conclusions without any solid evidence the definition of making stuff up? The blue posts are just refuting rumors.
not really. there's quite a divide between those two on the epistemology totem.
but yea i kind of didn't realize the implication for low level legendaries being able to roll lvl63 mods. i thought rings and stuff might be different but apparently nop.
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Then they'd have to add ________ [Legacy x2] heh
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On September 27 2012 23:15 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2012 23:09 Durak wrote:On September 27 2012 22:50 zomgE wrote:On September 27 2012 20:52 Loomies wrote:
I started getting back into D3 since theres been alot of downtime for me. Currently a paragon level 31 monk and it's still surprising on how Blizzard rigged the drop rate. I'm not expecting a legendary/set piece every hour of farming but you seriously can't expect a typical person play DOZENS of hours and still not find a set piece. The few legendaries that I found the past 20 paragon levels were bad affixes and even 2 Izzuccob level 55 1h DH legendaries in Act 3 inferno.
It's really a slap in the face that Mike said this". On the flipside, we are also committed to ensuring you have a great experience with Diablo III without feeling like the auction house is mandatory, which was never our intention. Thank you for all the feedback about that." It seems like 1.0.5 will fix some of the problems but it's still baffling that they alot of people left the game. legendaries and sets aren't mandatory to easily beat the game or farm it. Still a little dumb to have played the game for 350 hours and yet never found a set item. I've also only found ~5 legendaries. They should have made more low level sets that had a lot of pieces and given them a higher drop chance. I remember playing D2 and I would find set items, albeit terrible, as I was playing through the game. They were fun to collect and then use on another character when you rolled something else. And then people will whine that they're finding crappy sets instead of the best ones. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Every other dungeon crawler in existence lets you get tons of the highest tier items, and many of them are crap. And most of those games were well acclaimed even after 4 months.
You want to pretend that it's a Morton's Fork situation, but years of history disagree with you.
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On September 28 2012 07:15 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2012 23:15 Heh_ wrote:On September 27 2012 23:09 Durak wrote:On September 27 2012 22:50 zomgE wrote:On September 27 2012 20:52 Loomies wrote:
I started getting back into D3 since theres been alot of downtime for me. Currently a paragon level 31 monk and it's still surprising on how Blizzard rigged the drop rate. I'm not expecting a legendary/set piece every hour of farming but you seriously can't expect a typical person play DOZENS of hours and still not find a set piece. The few legendaries that I found the past 20 paragon levels were bad affixes and even 2 Izzuccob level 55 1h DH legendaries in Act 3 inferno.
It's really a slap in the face that Mike said this". On the flipside, we are also committed to ensuring you have a great experience with Diablo III without feeling like the auction house is mandatory, which was never our intention. Thank you for all the feedback about that." It seems like 1.0.5 will fix some of the problems but it's still baffling that they alot of people left the game. legendaries and sets aren't mandatory to easily beat the game or farm it. Still a little dumb to have played the game for 350 hours and yet never found a set item. I've also only found ~5 legendaries. They should have made more low level sets that had a lot of pieces and given them a higher drop chance. I remember playing D2 and I would find set items, albeit terrible, as I was playing through the game. They were fun to collect and then use on another character when you rolled something else. And then people will whine that they're finding crappy sets instead of the best ones. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Every other dungeon crawler in existence lets you get tons of the highest tier items, and many of them are crap. And most of those games were well acclaimed even after 4 months. You want to pretend that it's a Morton's Fork situation, but years of history disagree with you.
Does any other of the big dungeon crawlers have a well developed and frequently used auction house like diablo 3? Honest question, I do not know.
As I said above, I think the problem is the large number of players, and that a large fraction use the auction house regularly. So with many thousands of people trying to sell their loot to you, it is not likely that your drops will be any good in comparison. I think we can agree that without the auction house, there would be a lot less complaints about the "crap drops".
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On September 28 2012 07:45 Cascade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 07:15 WolfintheSheep wrote:On September 27 2012 23:15 Heh_ wrote:On September 27 2012 23:09 Durak wrote:On September 27 2012 22:50 zomgE wrote:On September 27 2012 20:52 Loomies wrote:
I started getting back into D3 since theres been alot of downtime for me. Currently a paragon level 31 monk and it's still surprising on how Blizzard rigged the drop rate. I'm not expecting a legendary/set piece every hour of farming but you seriously can't expect a typical person play DOZENS of hours and still not find a set piece. The few legendaries that I found the past 20 paragon levels were bad affixes and even 2 Izzuccob level 55 1h DH legendaries in Act 3 inferno.
It's really a slap in the face that Mike said this". On the flipside, we are also committed to ensuring you have a great experience with Diablo III without feeling like the auction house is mandatory, which was never our intention. Thank you for all the feedback about that." It seems like 1.0.5 will fix some of the problems but it's still baffling that they alot of people left the game. legendaries and sets aren't mandatory to easily beat the game or farm it. Still a little dumb to have played the game for 350 hours and yet never found a set item. I've also only found ~5 legendaries. They should have made more low level sets that had a lot of pieces and given them a higher drop chance. I remember playing D2 and I would find set items, albeit terrible, as I was playing through the game. They were fun to collect and then use on another character when you rolled something else. And then people will whine that they're finding crappy sets instead of the best ones. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Every other dungeon crawler in existence lets you get tons of the highest tier items, and many of them are crap. And most of those games were well acclaimed even after 4 months. You want to pretend that it's a Morton's Fork situation, but years of history disagree with you. Does any other of the big dungeon crawlers have a well developed and frequently used auction house like diablo 3? Honest question, I do not know. As I said above, I think the problem is the large number of players, and that a large fraction use the auction house regularly. So with many thousands of people trying to sell their loot to you, it is not likely that your drops will be any good in comparison. I think we can agree that without the auction house, there would be a lot less complaints about the "crap drops".
no, no other ARPG uses an AH becuase it defeats the purpose of playing the game...
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