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Ewli
Sweden326 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
He targets under you. He'll launch a bunch at you, and because you're running around like a headless chicken you can't actually see when he is casting it. Your best bet is to get more hp =S well i don't think i can tank it no matter how much hp i get so i'll go for the maximal dps route and hope to get lucky. got him down to 10% a few times with raw dps. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 24 2012 00:01 Ewli wrote: They nerfed my Smoke screen : (((((( I believe the correct word is "fixed". If they wanted DH to be able to trade off having nearly no disc all the time for permanent invincibility, they wouldn't have put it on a button. Anyone who didn't expect this was lying to themselves. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On May 23 2012 23:54 LaNague wrote: please, can you stop arguing semantics right at a time where blizzard completely changes the classes unannounced without patchnotes? :D also, they specificely said that they nerfed boon to make it unusable, its the only "patchnote" they have given us. Source on that ? :/ I don't feel any change to Boon at all while playing. I just can't spam it as often as before because you make a lot less spirit. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
Source. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5271780011?page=2#34 | ||
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Ewli
Sweden326 Posts
On May 24 2012 00:06 JingleHell wrote: I believe the correct word is "fixed". If they wanted DH to be able to trade off having nearly no disc all the time for permanent invincibility, they wouldn't have put it on a button. Anyone who didn't expect this was lying to themselves. I knew they were going to do this, but it is still nerfing the ability. From 2(3) with same cd as duration to 1(2) with 2.25 sec cd | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
Everything else is shit. :/ | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 24 2012 00:13 Ewli wrote: I knew they were going to do this, but it is still nerfing the ability. From 2(3) with same cd as duration to 1(2) with 2.25 sec cd Well, yes it's a "nerf", in a way, but it's more a "fix" because they're preventing a "creative use of mechanics". I consider that to being closer to a bugfix than a nerf, personally. A nerf is when it's a tweak, rather than an "oh shit we broke it". | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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Jochan
Poland1730 Posts
On May 24 2012 00:06 JingleHell wrote: If they wanted DH to be able to trade off having nearly no disc all the time for permanent invincibility, they wouldn't have put it on a button.. Can you please explain to me how I missed the fact that I could play with permanent invincibility? I mean the permanent part, I must have skipped some text or post by Blizzard. | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
On May 24 2012 00:19 NotSorry wrote: another unannounced change is many yellow chests have been replaced with just normal chests This one was kind of stupid to begin with and a good fix. There are several places (especially act 2) where you can go from a waypoint/checkpoint to a nearby cellar/dungeon with a yellow chest and easily farm. The problem is that those guys already exploited the hell out of this when it was available. There are just SO MANY things in the game that never should have made it to release, especially with how much Blizz delayed the game "polish" it. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 24 2012 00:21 Jochan wrote: Can you please explain to me how I missed the fact that I could play with permanent invincibility? I mean the permanent part, I must have skipped some text or post by Blizzard. I didn't do it myself, but people were essentially using something like disc on damage for multishot, disc on crit passive, preparation to get smokescreen essentially permanent. I don't know how much of that is hyperbole, because I pretty much stubbornly trucked on (and stayed awake), operating under the apparently correct assumption that this was doomed. But a whole lot of people called it permanent or essentially permanent. | ||
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Jochan
Poland1730 Posts
On May 24 2012 00:36 JingleHell wrote: I didn't do it myself, but people were essentially using something like disc on damage for multishot, disc on crit passive, preparation to get smokescreen essentially permanent. I don't know how much of that is hyperbole, because I pretty much stubbornly trucked on (and stayed awake), operating under the apparently correct assumption that this was doomed. But a whole lot of people called it permanent or essentially permanent. First of all I am a DH, I didn't use this trick and I've played most of Act 1 inferno today completely oblivious to this change, that explains how I took hits from time to time when I was not supposed not, but that is not game breaking. What I hate is saying shit like that was permanent... Multishot with that costs 40 hatred and you need smoke screen on rare/elite packs or bosses, not on normal packs with lots and lots of mobs... When you fight 3-4 elite mobs, 40 hatred for 4 disc, and you can use it 2 times, so at most it may give you 1 more smoke screen, but then you are left with no disc and no hatred... There is no way you can pull it of for a permanent invincibility, not on rares/elites/boss fights and that's when you need it most. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 24 2012 00:57 Jochan wrote: First of all I am a DH, I didn't use this trick and I've played most of Act 1 inferno today completely oblivious to this change, that explains how I took hits from time to time when I was not supposed not, but that is not game breaking. What I hate is saying shit like that was permanent... Multishot with that costs 40 hatred and you need smoke screen on rare/elite packs or bosses, not on normal packs with lots and lots of mobs... When you fight 3-4 elite mobs, 40 hatred for 4 disc, and you can use it 2 times, so at most it may give you 1 more smoke screen, but then you are left with no disc and no hatred... There is no way you can pull it of for a permanent invincibility, not on rares/elites/boss fights and that's when you need it most. I'm a DH too. I've never even tried to do it that way, and I'm almost done with A3 Hell. Like I said, I don't know how close to permanent it really was, I did clarify that it was based on the possibly exaggerated claims of others. And believe me, those exact words HAVE been used repeatedly. | ||
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XXXSmOke
United States1333 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 24 2012 01:11 XXXSmOke wrote: Im a bit confused.. There was an update? But I just launched D3 and im not being shown any patch notes or anything. Im looking on BNet and now seeing them. But thats kind of dumb, now if random patches hit youll just have to check the comm site first. They already said they're trying to get this shit done and patch notes will catch up. Yes, it sucks, but then, most of what they're trying to un-break is stuff that most people already knew was severely broken. Severely broken stuff tends to be "use at your own risk". | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On May 24 2012 01:13 JingleHell wrote: They already said they're trying to get this shit done and patch notes will catch up. Yes, it sucks, but then, most of what they're trying to un-break is stuff that most people already knew was severely broken. Severely broken stuff tends to be "use at your own risk". I need one word to explain why ninja fixes(specially one that does not appear in the tooltip) are a SHIT move by blizz: Hardcore. | ||
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nettleberry
United States201 Posts
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XXXSmOke
United States1333 Posts
On May 24 2012 01:13 JingleHell wrote: They already said they're trying to get this shit done and patch notes will catch up. Yes, it sucks, but then, most of what they're trying to un-break is stuff that most people already knew was severely broken. Severely broken stuff tends to be "use at your own risk". Yea, I actually 100% agree with the nerfs. As a DH I was using the Prep/SS build and it was way to powerful to be invulnerable for that long. Ofc alot of people are bitching, but it will work its way out, if they had fixed this earlier then we wouldnt have solo DH's beating inferno in 4 days..... | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 24 2012 01:17 Alpino wrote: I need one word to explain why ninja fixes(specially one that does not appear in the tooltip) are a SHIT move by blizz: Hardcore. Like I said. "Use at your own risk". Hardcore increases the risk exponentially, so people should more seriously reconsider use of severely broken shit. Does it suck to lose a time investment? Yes, I used to play nethack, I know all about permadeath. Don't want to risk a stealth hotfix of exploitative mechanics screwing you over? Don't abuse those mechanics. | ||
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