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On May 23 2012 22:39 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 21:56 Jochan wrote:
Am I missing something hidden with reflective/vampiric design, is there some kind of dispell or something? On inferno it's retarded, when rare boss plus minions have that with over 2mil HP. It's so much hp to burn through that I can kill myself 2 times over, and that's taking no damage myself.... I can do it only when they are not fast with large space to separate some mobs and kill them in smaller parts with healing. Horde vampiric/reflective fast/teleport or anything that can shorten the distance to me quickly it's pretty much gg. I have to skip those and run for checkpoint or reload the map... what class are you? you can avoid the reflective damage using smoke screen or similar spells.
Yes I know that but I can't make 2mil damage on multiple targets in, let's assume generously with preparation proc 36 seconds, and that is without other shit like walling so I don't have line of sight or other shenanigans. That's 55k dps 
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On May 23 2012 22:33 krzych113 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 22:20 JingleHell wrote:On May 23 2012 22:17 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:03 Firebolt145 wrote:On May 23 2012 21:53 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 21:06 Firebolt145 wrote:On May 23 2012 20:54 krzych113 wrote:
My first impression was that I'd rather compare this game to tony hawk pro skater than to the original diablo. I feel like everything in this game was made in a sense "lets just to not make it to hard" so they won't discourage themselves playing so... we could probably sell more. Working in the opposite direction in my opinion though, but for a valuable player only ( which since it's a minority blizzard obviously doesn't care ). Like it was made for dummies.
My general conclusion after playing few first missions is that the level of a player in these days is falling down, dramatically like every single game that is made by blizzard these days would like to make you dumber than you are in the first place. But what I can see in a more general sense and what I'd share with anyone reading this is that any kind of entertaintment that is widely spread ( i.e.: TV, radio ) is making you a zombie taken into a sheep mode and I don't know too much of games like this even though I played BW and Diablo II for a long time before and I don't know how about you but the general impression of taking you into a non-thinking, nodding-to everything, non assertive, passive, pitful sheep mode stayed with me. Peace - Make the opinion that the game was made to be easy - Tell people you've made that conclusion after only playing the first few missions Lol. edit: I could be wrong about what you were trying to allude to but it was really hard to understand what you were saying. And since I feel I should be constructive rather than just laugh at you, have you actually tried the harder difficulties yet? Normal mode is piss easy, anyone can do it with their eyes closed, and everyone knows that. Nightmare requires some more involvement, Hell is where it starts getting difficult and Inferno is pretty fucking hard, sometimes borderline impossible. Play the game more before telling the world your baseless conclusions. I think I actually wouldn't be able to say to much real about the game if I'd start to play the game and be IN IT. I'm saying what I felt after the first touch and spending few hours watching the streams. In my opinion actually playing the game bents you in a way that making an opinion After spending A Lot of time with it just makes you subjective and what's more - hard to believe because of it. But if you doesn't believe go ahead and imagine asking an aquarium fish about the sea ( living all her life in the sea ). She can never answer you a question What's a sea? without being subjective. She can tell you what she feels about but she can never ever tell you what's a sea beacause she never ever seen it before. So actually I think playing the game and making the conclusion without even a month break would just make me subjective. What I'm telling you is only what I think bent only by my perspective. Your analogy doesn't work for me because I HAVE played many other games. Also, it doesn't even work for you because you've only tried a few levels of normal mode. That's like asking a fish that only has lived in a small aquarium 'how big is the world' yet he hasn't experienced the entire ocean. Well, I guess that's your opinion and that's your example, isn't it ? But it in my opinion as I could see it it works just perfectly fine  and in my example I ask the fish about the water she's already in - which means she's giving me an inside opinion of her being inside of something that she can't and probably didn't even see or observe - before because she can't. So yeah I didn't even see the whole world yet and that's what in my opinion makes my answer an objective value. But if I'd need a objective opinion about the game from you I'd ask you for an opinion about the game after a few years since now - not when you actually do that now, wouldn't I ? What the fuck is an "objective opinion"? There's no such thing. If you want objective information about the game, you're reviewing things like performance, controls, and interface. Difficulty, story, and gameplay all have large subjective elements to them, which is why you should always find a reviewer you trust, play demos, or try to get into betas. An objective opinion ( in my opinion ) is the most objective opinion as possible opinion. Which means if I'd ask for it I'd ask a person who barely touched something or touched something for a long time and stopped ( for at least a month I think ) - and that's when I'd ask anyone for an opinion, yes, about the Difficulty, story, and gameplay and all of those subjective elements, because in the moment you're with them everyday, they probably could be hell subjective.
There is no such fucking thing as an objective opinion. Let me clarify that, since last time I used a rhetorical question to show my incredulity at the utter absurdity you somehow conned the pixels on my poor screen into displaying.
Someone who tried something but didn't continue doing it doesn't make their opinion more objective. It means they didn't like it. Trying to say that your lack of experience somehow makes you qualified to give useful information, it just means you're reveling in your ignorance.
The only thing objective here is that you objectively don't have a fucking clue, and decided to look for a way to make it sound smart. Or, I suppose, you could be objectively the best troll in this thread in quite a while. One of the two.
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On May 23 2012 22:44 NukeD wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 21:53 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 21:06 Firebolt145 wrote:On May 23 2012 20:54 krzych113 wrote:
My first impression was that I'd rather compare this game to tony hawk pro skater than to the original diablo. I feel like everything in this game was made in a sense "lets just to not make it to hard" so they won't discourage themselves playing so... we could probably sell more. Working in the opposite direction in my opinion though, but for a valuable player only ( which since it's a minority blizzard obviously doesn't care ). Like it was made for dummies.
My general conclusion after playing few first missions is that the level of a player in these days is falling down, dramatically like every single game that is made by blizzard these days would like to make you dumber than you are in the first place. But what I can see in a more general sense and what I'd share with anyone reading this is that any kind of entertaintment that is widely spread ( i.e.: TV, radio ) is making you a zombie taken into a sheep mode and I don't know too much of games like this even though I played BW and Diablo II for a long time before and I don't know how about you but the general impression of taking you into a non-thinking, nodding-to everything, non assertive, passive, pitful sheep mode stayed with me. Peace - Make the opinion that the game was made to be easy - Tell people you've made that conclusion after only playing the first few missions Lol. edit: I could be wrong about what you were trying to allude to but it was really hard to understand what you were saying. And since I feel I should be constructive rather than just laugh at you, have you actually tried the harder difficulties yet? Normal mode is piss easy, anyone can do it with their eyes closed, and everyone knows that. Nightmare requires some more involvement, Hell is where it starts getting difficult and Inferno is pretty fucking hard, sometimes borderline impossible. Play the game more before telling the world your baseless conclusions. I think I actually wouldn't be able to say to much real about the game if I'd start to play the game and be IN IT. I'm saying what I felt after the first touch and spending few hours watching the streams. In my opinion actually playing the game bents you in a way that making an opinion After spending A Lot of time with it, just makes you subjective and what's more - hard to believe because of it. But if you doesn't believe go ahead and imagine asking an aquarium fish about the sea or the water ( living all her life in the aquarium, in the water ). She can never answer you a question What's a sea? or What's a water ? without being subjective. She can tell you what she feels about but she can never ever tell you what's a sea beacause she never ever seen it before. So actually I think playing the game and making the conclusion without even a month break would just make me subjective. What I'm telling you is only what I think, bent only by my perspective. No offense dude but this is one of the most ridiculous posts Ive ever read on internet in the last 10 years. And whats worse Im on your side on not liking the game.
That's flattering, but I must disappoint you in the fact that I don't say and didn't say that I'm not liking the game. How could I even know that after barrely touching it ? Do you ? lol I'm not even sure if I'd say ' do I like it ' even after a year from now And playing. Sry if I sound offensive or I gave the feel of me ' not liking anything, but what I am saying is just my shallow opinion, nothing else really.
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On May 23 2012 22:46 krzych113 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 22:37 Shikyo wrote:On May 23 2012 22:33 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:20 JingleHell wrote:On May 23 2012 22:17 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:03 Firebolt145 wrote:On May 23 2012 21:53 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 21:06 Firebolt145 wrote:On May 23 2012 20:54 krzych113 wrote:
My first impression was that I'd rather compare this game to tony hawk pro skater than to the original diablo. I feel like everything in this game was made in a sense "lets just to not make it to hard" so they won't discourage themselves playing so... we could probably sell more. Working in the opposite direction in my opinion though, but for a valuable player only ( which since it's a minority blizzard obviously doesn't care ). Like it was made for dummies.
My general conclusion after playing few first missions is that the level of a player in these days is falling down, dramatically like every single game that is made by blizzard these days would like to make you dumber than you are in the first place. But what I can see in a more general sense and what I'd share with anyone reading this is that any kind of entertaintment that is widely spread ( i.e.: TV, radio ) is making you a zombie taken into a sheep mode and I don't know too much of games like this even though I played BW and Diablo II for a long time before and I don't know how about you but the general impression of taking you into a non-thinking, nodding-to everything, non assertive, passive, pitful sheep mode stayed with me. Peace - Make the opinion that the game was made to be easy - Tell people you've made that conclusion after only playing the first few missions Lol. edit: I could be wrong about what you were trying to allude to but it was really hard to understand what you were saying. And since I feel I should be constructive rather than just laugh at you, have you actually tried the harder difficulties yet? Normal mode is piss easy, anyone can do it with their eyes closed, and everyone knows that. Nightmare requires some more involvement, Hell is where it starts getting difficult and Inferno is pretty fucking hard, sometimes borderline impossible. Play the game more before telling the world your baseless conclusions. I think I actually wouldn't be able to say to much real about the game if I'd start to play the game and be IN IT. I'm saying what I felt after the first touch and spending few hours watching the streams. In my opinion actually playing the game bents you in a way that making an opinion After spending A Lot of time with it just makes you subjective and what's more - hard to believe because of it. But if you doesn't believe go ahead and imagine asking an aquarium fish about the sea ( living all her life in the sea ). She can never answer you a question What's a sea? without being subjective. She can tell you what she feels about but she can never ever tell you what's a sea beacause she never ever seen it before. So actually I think playing the game and making the conclusion without even a month break would just make me subjective. What I'm telling you is only what I think bent only by my perspective. Your analogy doesn't work for me because I HAVE played many other games. Also, it doesn't even work for you because you've only tried a few levels of normal mode. That's like asking a fish that only has lived in a small aquarium 'how big is the world' yet he hasn't experienced the entire ocean. Well, I guess that's your opinion and that's your example, isn't it ? But it in my opinion as I could see it it works just perfectly fine and in my example I ask the fish about the water she's already in - which means she's giving me an inside opinion of her being inside of something that she can't and probably didn't even see or observe - before because she can't. So yeah I didn't even see the whole world yet and that's what in my opinion makes my answer an objective value. But if I'd need a objective opinion about the game from you I'd ask you for an opinion about the game after a few years since now - not when you actually do that now, wouldn't I ? What the fuck is an "objective opinion"? There's no such thing. If you want objective information about the game, you're reviewing things like performance, controls, and interface. Difficulty, story, and gameplay all have large subjective elements to them, which is why you should always find a reviewer you trust, play demos, or try to get into betas. An objective opinion ( in my opinion ) is the most objective opinion as possible opinion. Which means if I'd ask for it I'd ask a person who barely touched something or touched something for a long time and stopped playing it ( for at least a month I think ) - and that's when I'd ask anyone for an opinion, yes, about the Difficulty, story, and gameplay and all of those subjective elements, because in the moment you're with them everyday, they probably could be hell subjective. Quitting the game implies they disliked it. So you ask for someone who dislikes the game for their outdated opinion and think of that as objective? I really cannot tell how serious you are. Did I say 'quitting' ? or did I say 'stopping' ? because since I think there's bit of a difference between 'quitting' and intentionally stopping doing something the rest of your post could be spotted just as 'off the subject', couldn't it? peace
You just randomly stop playing games for month-long periods?
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On May 23 2012 22:56 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 22:46 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:37 Shikyo wrote:On May 23 2012 22:33 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:20 JingleHell wrote:On May 23 2012 22:17 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:03 Firebolt145 wrote:On May 23 2012 21:53 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 21:06 Firebolt145 wrote:On May 23 2012 20:54 krzych113 wrote:
My first impression was that I'd rather compare this game to tony hawk pro skater than to the original diablo. I feel like everything in this game was made in a sense "lets just to not make it to hard" so they won't discourage themselves playing so... we could probably sell more. Working in the opposite direction in my opinion though, but for a valuable player only ( which since it's a minority blizzard obviously doesn't care ). Like it was made for dummies.
My general conclusion after playing few first missions is that the level of a player in these days is falling down, dramatically like every single game that is made by blizzard these days would like to make you dumber than you are in the first place. But what I can see in a more general sense and what I'd share with anyone reading this is that any kind of entertaintment that is widely spread ( i.e.: TV, radio ) is making you a zombie taken into a sheep mode and I don't know too much of games like this even though I played BW and Diablo II for a long time before and I don't know how about you but the general impression of taking you into a non-thinking, nodding-to everything, non assertive, passive, pitful sheep mode stayed with me. Peace - Make the opinion that the game was made to be easy - Tell people you've made that conclusion after only playing the first few missions Lol. edit: I could be wrong about what you were trying to allude to but it was really hard to understand what you were saying. And since I feel I should be constructive rather than just laugh at you, have you actually tried the harder difficulties yet? Normal mode is piss easy, anyone can do it with their eyes closed, and everyone knows that. Nightmare requires some more involvement, Hell is where it starts getting difficult and Inferno is pretty fucking hard, sometimes borderline impossible. Play the game more before telling the world your baseless conclusions. I think I actually wouldn't be able to say to much real about the game if I'd start to play the game and be IN IT. I'm saying what I felt after the first touch and spending few hours watching the streams. In my opinion actually playing the game bents you in a way that making an opinion After spending A Lot of time with it just makes you subjective and what's more - hard to believe because of it. But if you doesn't believe go ahead and imagine asking an aquarium fish about the sea ( living all her life in the sea ). She can never answer you a question What's a sea? without being subjective. She can tell you what she feels about but she can never ever tell you what's a sea beacause she never ever seen it before. So actually I think playing the game and making the conclusion without even a month break would just make me subjective. What I'm telling you is only what I think bent only by my perspective. Your analogy doesn't work for me because I HAVE played many other games. Also, it doesn't even work for you because you've only tried a few levels of normal mode. That's like asking a fish that only has lived in a small aquarium 'how big is the world' yet he hasn't experienced the entire ocean. Well, I guess that's your opinion and that's your example, isn't it ? But it in my opinion as I could see it it works just perfectly fine and in my example I ask the fish about the water she's already in - which means she's giving me an inside opinion of her being inside of something that she can't and probably didn't even see or observe - before because she can't. So yeah I didn't even see the whole world yet and that's what in my opinion makes my answer an objective value. But if I'd need a objective opinion about the game from you I'd ask you for an opinion about the game after a few years since now - not when you actually do that now, wouldn't I ? What the fuck is an "objective opinion"? There's no such thing. If you want objective information about the game, you're reviewing things like performance, controls, and interface. Difficulty, story, and gameplay all have large subjective elements to them, which is why you should always find a reviewer you trust, play demos, or try to get into betas. An objective opinion ( in my opinion ) is the most objective opinion as possible opinion. Which means if I'd ask for it I'd ask a person who barely touched something or touched something for a long time and stopped playing it ( for at least a month I think ) - and that's when I'd ask anyone for an opinion, yes, about the Difficulty, story, and gameplay and all of those subjective elements, because in the moment you're with them everyday, they probably could be hell subjective. Quitting the game implies they disliked it. So you ask for someone who dislikes the game for their outdated opinion and think of that as objective? I really cannot tell how serious you are. Did I say 'quitting' ? or did I say 'stopping' ? because since I think there's bit of a difference between 'quitting' and intentionally stopping doing something the rest of your post could be spotted just as 'off the subject', couldn't it? peace You just randomly stop playing games for month-long periods?
Of course I don't, but if I wanted to give me some huge perspective about something that I'd like to honestly comment about I would just stop doing it for a while and so maybe do something completely else I like for that moment just for the sake of it and then think about it and then again, after a while, find out how it feels again. If it's good it's good. If it's bad it's probably bad.
But until then the only honest opinion I could make I think would be after barrely touching anything, just after the first touch.
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On May 23 2012 23:03 krzych113 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 22:56 Shikyo wrote:On May 23 2012 22:46 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:37 Shikyo wrote:On May 23 2012 22:33 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:20 JingleHell wrote:On May 23 2012 22:17 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:03 Firebolt145 wrote:On May 23 2012 21:53 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 21:06 Firebolt145 wrote:
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- Make the opinion that the game was made to be easy
- Tell people you've made that conclusion after only playing the first few missions
Lol.
edit: I could be wrong about what you were trying to allude to but it was really hard to understand what you were saying. And since I feel I should be constructive rather than just laugh at you, have you actually tried the harder difficulties yet? Normal mode is piss easy, anyone can do it with their eyes closed, and everyone knows that. Nightmare requires some more involvement, Hell is where it starts getting difficult and Inferno is pretty fucking hard, sometimes borderline impossible. Play the game more before telling the world your baseless conclusions. I think I actually wouldn't be able to say to much real about the game if I'd start to play the game and be IN IT. I'm saying what I felt after the first touch and spending few hours watching the streams. In my opinion actually playing the game bents you in a way that making an opinion After spending A Lot of time with it just makes you subjective and what's more - hard to believe because of it. But if you doesn't believe go ahead and imagine asking an aquarium fish about the sea ( living all her life in the sea ). She can never answer you a question What's a sea? without being subjective. She can tell you what she feels about but she can never ever tell you what's a sea beacause she never ever seen it before. So actually I think playing the game and making the conclusion without even a month break would just make me subjective. What I'm telling you is only what I think bent only by my perspective. Your analogy doesn't work for me because I HAVE played many other games. Also, it doesn't even work for you because you've only tried a few levels of normal mode. That's like asking a fish that only has lived in a small aquarium 'how big is the world' yet he hasn't experienced the entire ocean. Well, I guess that's your opinion and that's your example, isn't it ? But it in my opinion as I could see it it works just perfectly fine and in my example I ask the fish about the water she's already in - which means she's giving me an inside opinion of her being inside of something that she can't and probably didn't even see or observe - before because she can't. So yeah I didn't even see the whole world yet and that's what in my opinion makes my answer an objective value. But if I'd need a objective opinion about the game from you I'd ask you for an opinion about the game after a few years since now - not when you actually do that now, wouldn't I ? What the fuck is an "objective opinion"? There's no such thing. If you want objective information about the game, you're reviewing things like performance, controls, and interface. Difficulty, story, and gameplay all have large subjective elements to them, which is why you should always find a reviewer you trust, play demos, or try to get into betas. An objective opinion ( in my opinion ) is the most objective opinion as possible opinion. Which means if I'd ask for it I'd ask a person who barely touched something or touched something for a long time and stopped playing it ( for at least a month I think ) - and that's when I'd ask anyone for an opinion, yes, about the Difficulty, story, and gameplay and all of those subjective elements, because in the moment you're with them everyday, they probably could be hell subjective. Quitting the game implies they disliked it. So you ask for someone who dislikes the game for their outdated opinion and think of that as objective? I really cannot tell how serious you are. Did I say 'quitting' ? or did I say 'stopping' ? because since I think there's bit of a difference between 'quitting' and intentionally stopping doing something the rest of your post could be spotted just as 'off the subject', couldn't it? peace You just randomly stop playing games for month-long periods? Of course I don't, but if I wanted to give me some huge perspective about something that I'd to honestly comment about I would just stop doing it and so maybe do something completely else I like for that moment just for the sake of it and then think about it and then, after a while, find out how it feels again. If it's good it's good. If it's bad it's bad. Until then the only honest opinion I could make'd be with barrely touching anything, just after the first touch.
Good, then please do an "objective" review of you posting in this thread.
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On May 23 2012 22:20 Heh_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 22:11 Firebolt145 wrote:
If you're aware you only know a little bit about the game, don't go out and tell everyone 'I think they made this game to be easy'. You can say 'atm the beginning is very easy' but that's completely different from 'lol this made this game sooo casual and they've completely changed their game making mentality etc'. Well, those are the "masses" for you. They see 1% of the game and decide that they're worthy to pass judgments. Many pages ago, do you remember the discussion about metacritic scores? These guys are just the second wave of whiners. What I don't understand is if they hate the game so much, why do they keep playing it? Yes, the money spent is wasted, but just suck it up. I did the same for Shogun 2: Total War. The game is a joke compared to previous games in the Total War series.
One might say "there's so much more beyond normal". Others might argue "There's very little incentive for me to play past normal"
I see both sides. For those who play it for the story and the one-time experience they have all the right to be disappointed. The game is way too easy, hack&slay in its most uncreative form with a very lackluster story. At no point in time do you need any teamwork which reduces you (and your coop players) to no-brainer-killing machines with absolutely no need to combine your skills to form this super team of world saviors (whateverwhatever).
Now of course you might say 'play through the other levels'. But then you get in to nightmare and the game stays easy as fuck making me waste another round in this groundless, mindless grinding-machine that is diablo 3.
A friend of mine living together with his GF played through the game as slow as possible. Discovering everything there is to discover only to discover that what they discovered is nothing much really.
Now some might say "That is Diablo for you". And I do agree. And that's perfectly OK if you're in to that sort of stuff.
If you're not that's fine as well. No harm done.
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On May 23 2012 23:04 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 23:03 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:56 Shikyo wrote:On May 23 2012 22:46 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:37 Shikyo wrote:On May 23 2012 22:33 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:20 JingleHell wrote:On May 23 2012 22:17 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:03 Firebolt145 wrote:On May 23 2012 21:53 krzych113 wrote:
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I think I actually wouldn't be able to say to much real about the game if I'd start to play the game and be IN IT. I'm saying what I felt after the first touch and spending few hours watching the streams.
In my opinion actually playing the game bents you in a way that making an opinion After spending A Lot of time with it just makes you subjective and what's more - hard to believe because of it. But if you doesn't believe go ahead and imagine asking an aquarium fish about the sea ( living all her life in the sea ). She can never answer you a question What's a sea? without being subjective. She can tell you what she feels about but she can never ever tell you what's a sea beacause she never ever seen it before. So actually I think playing the game and making the conclusion without even a month break would just make me subjective. What I'm telling you is only what I think bent only by my perspective. Your analogy doesn't work for me because I HAVE played many other games. Also, it doesn't even work for you because you've only tried a few levels of normal mode. That's like asking a fish that only has lived in a small aquarium 'how big is the world' yet he hasn't experienced the entire ocean. Well, I guess that's your opinion and that's your example, isn't it ? But it in my opinion as I could see it it works just perfectly fine and in my example I ask the fish about the water she's already in - which means she's giving me an inside opinion of her being inside of something that she can't and probably didn't even see or observe - before because she can't. So yeah I didn't even see the whole world yet and that's what in my opinion makes my answer an objective value. But if I'd need a objective opinion about the game from you I'd ask you for an opinion about the game after a few years since now - not when you actually do that now, wouldn't I ? What the fuck is an "objective opinion"? There's no such thing. If you want objective information about the game, you're reviewing things like performance, controls, and interface. Difficulty, story, and gameplay all have large subjective elements to them, which is why you should always find a reviewer you trust, play demos, or try to get into betas. An objective opinion ( in my opinion ) is the most objective opinion as possible opinion. Which means if I'd ask for it I'd ask a person who barely touched something or touched something for a long time and stopped playing it ( for at least a month I think ) - and that's when I'd ask anyone for an opinion, yes, about the Difficulty, story, and gameplay and all of those subjective elements, because in the moment you're with them everyday, they probably could be hell subjective. Quitting the game implies they disliked it. So you ask for someone who dislikes the game for their outdated opinion and think of that as objective? I really cannot tell how serious you are. Did I say 'quitting' ? or did I say 'stopping' ? because since I think there's bit of a difference between 'quitting' and intentionally stopping doing something the rest of your post could be spotted just as 'off the subject', couldn't it? peace You just randomly stop playing games for month-long periods? Of course I don't, but if I wanted to give me some huge perspective about something that I'd to honestly comment about I would just stop doing it and so maybe do something completely else I like for that moment just for the sake of it and then think about it and then, after a while, find out how it feels again. If it's good it's good. If it's bad it's bad. Until then the only honest opinion I could make'd be with barrely touching anything, just after the first touch. Good, then please do an "objective" review of you posting in this thread.
Good ? What's exactly good in your opinion ? I think I don't understand you here. And why would you exactly like me to do an "objective" review of me posting anything in this thread? I think I'm not getting you here either.
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is there a pattern to azmodan's hell's grasp? keep getting 1 shot by it when it spawns under me. i guess this is what i get for not finishing him last night when ss was still imba
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On May 23 2012 23:14 krzych113 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 23:04 JingleHell wrote:On May 23 2012 23:03 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:56 Shikyo wrote:On May 23 2012 22:46 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:37 Shikyo wrote:On May 23 2012 22:33 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:20 JingleHell wrote:On May 23 2012 22:17 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:03 Firebolt145 wrote:
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Your analogy doesn't work for me because I HAVE played many other games. Also, it doesn't even work for you because you've only tried a few levels of normal mode. That's like asking a fish that only has lived in a small aquarium 'how big is the world' yet he hasn't experienced the entire ocean. Well, I guess that's your opinion and that's your example, isn't it ? But it in my opinion as I could see it it works just perfectly fine and in my example I ask the fish about the water she's already in - which means she's giving me an inside opinion of her being inside of something that she can't and probably didn't even see or observe - before because she can't. So yeah I didn't even see the whole world yet and that's what in my opinion makes my answer an objective value. But if I'd need a objective opinion about the game from you I'd ask you for an opinion about the game after a few years since now - not when you actually do that now, wouldn't I ? What the fuck is an "objective opinion"? There's no such thing. If you want objective information about the game, you're reviewing things like performance, controls, and interface. Difficulty, story, and gameplay all have large subjective elements to them, which is why you should always find a reviewer you trust, play demos, or try to get into betas. An objective opinion ( in my opinion ) is the most objective opinion as possible opinion. Which means if I'd ask for it I'd ask a person who barely touched something or touched something for a long time and stopped playing it ( for at least a month I think ) - and that's when I'd ask anyone for an opinion, yes, about the Difficulty, story, and gameplay and all of those subjective elements, because in the moment you're with them everyday, they probably could be hell subjective. Quitting the game implies they disliked it. So you ask for someone who dislikes the game for their outdated opinion and think of that as objective? I really cannot tell how serious you are. Did I say 'quitting' ? or did I say 'stopping' ? because since I think there's bit of a difference between 'quitting' and intentionally stopping doing something the rest of your post could be spotted just as 'off the subject', couldn't it? peace You just randomly stop playing games for month-long periods? Of course I don't, but if I wanted to give me some huge perspective about something that I'd to honestly comment about I would just stop doing it and so maybe do something completely else I like for that moment just for the sake of it and then think about it and then, after a while, find out how it feels again. If it's good it's good. If it's bad it's bad. Until then the only honest opinion I could make'd be with barrely touching anything, just after the first touch. Good, then please do an "objective" review of you posting in this thread. Good ? What's exactly good in your opinion ? I think I don't understand you here. And why would you exactly like me to do an "objective" review of me posting anything in this thread? I think I'm not getting you here either.
Let me break it down for you. "Good" means that there's something I like about what you said, specifically the bit I'm responding to. In this case, it's the part where you say if you wanted to give perspective about something, you'd stop doing it and come back later. Then I suggest you give perspective on your posts in this thread. The implication being that I'd like you to quit posting in this thread, for a month or more, since that was the time frame you'd referenced.
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On May 23 2012 23:07 Jayson X wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 22:20 Heh_ wrote:On May 23 2012 22:11 Firebolt145 wrote:
If you're aware you only know a little bit about the game, don't go out and tell everyone 'I think they made this game to be easy'. You can say 'atm the beginning is very easy' but that's completely different from 'lol this made this game sooo casual and they've completely changed their game making mentality etc'. Well, those are the "masses" for you. They see 1% of the game and decide that they're worthy to pass judgments. Many pages ago, do you remember the discussion about metacritic scores? These guys are just the second wave of whiners. What I don't understand is if they hate the game so much, why do they keep playing it? Yes, the money spent is wasted, but just suck it up. I did the same for Shogun 2: Total War. The game is a joke compared to previous games in the Total War series. One might say "there's so much more beyond normal". Others might argue "There's very little incentive for me to play past normal" I see both sides. For those who play it for the story and the one-time experience they have all the right to be disappointed. The game is way too easy, hack&slay in its most uncreative form with a very lackluster story. At no point in time do you need any teamwork which reduces you (and your coop players) to no-brainer-killing machines with absolutely no need to combine your skills to form this super team of world saviors (whateverwhatever). Now of course you might say 'play through the other levels'. But then you get in to nightmare and the game stays easy as fuck making me waste another round in this groundless, mindless grinding-machine that is diablo 3. A friend of mine living together with his GF played through the game as slow as possible. Discovering everything there is to discover only to discover that what they discovered is nothing much really. Now some might say "That is Diablo for you". And I do agree. And that's perfectly OK if you're in to that sort of stuff. If you're not that's fine as well. No harm done.
Kinda true. Let's break the players down into a few groups. The first group are the over-informed ones. They've been massively exposed to the hype train, and when the game isn't what they imagined it to be, they get frustrated.
The second group are the whiners. They hope for this mystical "perfect" game, where everything fits perfectly to their expectations. They want to kill Inferno Diablo in 1 hit, while taking 0 damage in the process, but they don't want the game to be "too easy". Well sorry that D3 isn't your perfect game, go find another game then.
The third group are the uninformed ones. They buy the game without knowing what they're getting into. They don't realize that D3 is more of a semi-brainless hack n slash instead of Assassin's Creed or Super Mario. Well, sucks to be them. That's kinda what happens when you don't do your research before getting a game. I bet it's happened to most of us, myself included.
As for my opinion: Yes the game isn't perfect. The storyline sucks, the constant chatter and taunting of npcs gets really annoying. Some elite/unique mobs are a joke, and are impossible to kill. There's a bunch of other minor stuff to nitpick at, but they're pretty inconsequential. But I don't go around various forums to complain about all these. Whatever flaws there are in the game, I just accept them. After the first playthrough, I just ignore every single piece of the plot. When I see jailer/mortar/desecrator/invulnerable mobs, I just laugh with my friends and find a way to suicide-lure them away. If I really hated the game, I would just stop playing. Period. Find another game that suits your tastes better. If you can't, then either suck it up and play this flawed game or just stop playing altogether. Your move.
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On May 23 2012 23:16 oneofthem wrote:
is there a pattern to azmodan's hell's grasp? keep getting 1 shot by it when it spawns under me. i guess this is what i get for not finishing him last night when ss was still imba
He targets under you. He'll launch a bunch at you, and because you're running around like a headless chicken you can't actually see when he is casting it. Your best bet is to get more hp =S
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Tip:
If you have too much shit in your storage but have a lot of spare auction room, sell -> cancel everything that you want to store in the auction room. 50 slots for free.
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On May 23 2012 23:26 Shikyo wrote:
Tip:
If you have too much shit in your storage but have a lot of spare auction room, sell -> cancel everything that you want to store in the auction room. 50 slots for free.
lol, genius :D
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On May 23 2012 23:26 Shikyo wrote:
Tip:
If you have too much shit in your storage but have a lot of spare auction room, sell -> cancel everything that you want to store in the auction room. 50 slots for free.
that, and you can also create new char as storeroom xD
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What is the farthest anyone has gone in Inferno HC?
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On May 23 2012 23:17 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 23:14 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 23:04 JingleHell wrote:On May 23 2012 23:03 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:56 Shikyo wrote:On May 23 2012 22:46 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:37 Shikyo wrote:On May 23 2012 22:33 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:20 JingleHell wrote:On May 23 2012 22:17 krzych113 wrote:[quote] Well, I guess that's your opinion and that's your example, isn't it ? But it in my opinion as I could see it it works just perfectly fine and in my example I ask the fish about the water she's already in - which means she's giving me an inside opinion of her being inside of something that she can't and probably didn't even see or observe - before because she can't. So yeah I didn't even see the whole world yet and that's what in my opinion makes my answer an objective value. But if I'd need a objective opinion about the game from you I'd ask you for an opinion about the game after a few years since now - not when you actually do that now, wouldn't I ? What the fuck is an "objective opinion"? There's no such thing. If you want objective information about the game, you're reviewing things like performance, controls, and interface. Difficulty, story, and gameplay all have large subjective elements to them, which is why you should always find a reviewer you trust, play demos, or try to get into betas. An objective opinion ( in my opinion ) is the most objective opinion as possible opinion. Which means if I'd ask for it I'd ask a person who barely touched something or touched something for a long time and stopped playing it ( for at least a month I think ) - and that's when I'd ask anyone for an opinion, yes, about the Difficulty, story, and gameplay and all of those subjective elements, because in the moment you're with them everyday, they probably could be hell subjective. Quitting the game implies they disliked it. So you ask for someone who dislikes the game for their outdated opinion and think of that as objective? I really cannot tell how serious you are. Did I say 'quitting' ? or did I say 'stopping' ? because since I think there's bit of a difference between 'quitting' and intentionally stopping doing something the rest of your post could be spotted just as 'off the subject', couldn't it? peace You just randomly stop playing games for month-long periods? Of course I don't, but if I wanted to give me some huge perspective about something that I'd to honestly comment about I would just stop doing it and so maybe do something completely else I like for that moment just for the sake of it and then think about it and then, after a while, find out how it feels again. If it's good it's good. If it's bad it's bad. Until then the only honest opinion I could make'd be with barrely touching anything, just after the first touch. Good, then please do an "objective" review of you posting in this thread. Good ? What's exactly good in your opinion ? I think I don't understand you here. And why would you exactly like me to do an "objective" review of me posting anything in this thread? I think I'm not getting you here either. Let me break it down for you. "Good" means that there's something I like about what you said, specifically the bit I'm responding to. In this case, it's the part where you say if you wanted to give perspective about something, you'd stop doing it and come back later. Then I suggest you give perspective on your posts in this thread. The implication being that I'd like you to quit posting in this thread, for a month or more, since that was the time frame you'd referenced.
I think you'd have to be more specific with that "Good" that means that there's something you like about what you say, you know? because I think what you wanted to say was That something is Good in your opinion, yes? But even though, still, I don't know What, is Good exactly in your opinion and which bit you're actually responding to. You see? you got to be more precisive with your opinions because otherwise I think I can't even understand you. Unless that was your purpose of course.
Though still I don't get why would I - from my point of view - want to give me perspective about my posts in this thread. would You need some of my perspective ?
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im so angry right now.
ive been building my monk to use healing mantra with boon of protection with hundred fists to gain with 15% chance for spirit.
ive spent at least 5mil over the past few days getting my aspd up damage hp and all that.
BAM HOTFIX FROM BLIZZARD
now any build using boon is useless for monks. i have only one choice if i want to play inferno wiht a monk...a dodge build.
just to highlight the difference for those who dont play monk. playing solo inferno act 1 i can tank most blue mobs with occasioanl kiting so long as they dont have retard affixes(invincible mobs arcane shit like that)
now with boon nerf i dont stand a chance. Boon shield as a maximum only stops 2.1k damage (used to me like 4.5k for me) the initial healing of boons 3 seconds is lower (tooltip doesnt say so but it is). YUCK
NOT HAPPY THAT MY MONK IS AS USEFUL AS A BARBARIAN NOW.......
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On May 23 2012 23:34 krzych113 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 23:17 JingleHell wrote:On May 23 2012 23:14 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 23:04 JingleHell wrote:On May 23 2012 23:03 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:56 Shikyo wrote:On May 23 2012 22:46 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:37 Shikyo wrote:On May 23 2012 22:33 krzych113 wrote:On May 23 2012 22:20 JingleHell wrote:
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What the fuck is an "objective opinion"? There's no such thing. If you want objective information about the game, you're reviewing things like performance, controls, and interface. Difficulty, story, and gameplay all have large subjective elements to them, which is why you should always find a reviewer you trust, play demos, or try to get into betas.
An objective opinion ( in my opinion ) is the most objective opinion as possible opinion. Which means if I'd ask for it I'd ask a person who barely touched something or touched something for a long time and stopped playing it ( for at least a month I think ) - and that's when I'd ask anyone for an opinion, yes, about the Difficulty, story, and gameplay and all of those subjective elements, because in the moment you're with them everyday, they probably could be hell subjective. Quitting the game implies they disliked it. So you ask for someone who dislikes the game for their outdated opinion and think of that as objective? I really cannot tell how serious you are. Did I say 'quitting' ? or did I say 'stopping' ? because since I think there's bit of a difference between 'quitting' and intentionally stopping doing something the rest of your post could be spotted just as 'off the subject', couldn't it? peace You just randomly stop playing games for month-long periods? Of course I don't, but if I wanted to give me some huge perspective about something that I'd to honestly comment about I would just stop doing it and so maybe do something completely else I like for that moment just for the sake of it and then think about it and then, after a while, find out how it feels again. If it's good it's good. If it's bad it's bad. Until then the only honest opinion I could make'd be with barrely touching anything, just after the first touch. Good, then please do an "objective" review of you posting in this thread. Good ? What's exactly good in your opinion ? I think I don't understand you here. And why would you exactly like me to do an "objective" review of me posting anything in this thread? I think I'm not getting you here either. Let me break it down for you. "Good" means that there's something I like about what you said, specifically the bit I'm responding to. In this case, it's the part where you say if you wanted to give perspective about something, you'd stop doing it and come back later. Then I suggest you give perspective on your posts in this thread. The implication being that I'd like you to quit posting in this thread, for a month or more, since that was the time frame you'd referenced. I think you'd have to be more specific with that "Good" that means that there's something you like about what you say, you know? because I think what you wanted to say was That something is Good in your opinion, yes? But even though, still, I don't know What, is Good exactly in your opinion and which bit you're actually responding to. You see? you got to be more precisive with your opinions because otherwise I think I can't even understand you. Unless that was your purpose of course. Though still I don't get why would I - from my point of view - want to give me perspective about my posts in this thread. would You need some of my perspective ?
The person who says "precisive" can't understand me, it must be my grasp of the English language that needs work. I think we're done here, troll, I'm done with wasting my time with you.
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On May 23 2012 23:41 TyrantPotato wrote:
im so angry right now.
ive been building my monk to use healing mantra with boon of protection with hundred fists to gain with 15% chance for spirit.
ive spent at least 5mil over the past few days getting my aspd up damage hp and all that.
BAM HOTFIX FROM BLIZZARD
now any build using boon is useless for monks. i have only one choice if i want to play inferno wiht a monk...a dodge build.
just to highlight the difference for those who dont play monk. playing solo inferno act 1 i can tank most blue mobs with occasioanl kiting so long as they dont have retard affixes(invincible mobs arcane shit like that)
now with boon nerf i dont stand a chance. Boon shield as a maximum only stops 2.1k damage (used to me like 4.5k for me) the initial healing of boons 3 seconds is lower (tooltip doesnt say so but it is). YUCK
NOT HAPPY THAT MY MONK IS AS USEFUL AS A BARBARIAN NOW.......
They didn't nerf Boon. :O
They nerfed the fact that sweeping wind crit was getting the 15 bonus spirit from the quickening rune on FoT.
MoH Boon is still the best mantra.
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please, can you stop arguing semantics right at a time where blizzard completely changes the classes unannounced without patchnotes? :D
also, they specificely said that they nerfed boon to make it unusable, its the only "patchnote" they have given us.
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