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KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
April 25 2012 01:38 GMT
#6441
Anyone else super excited for the auction house? I can't wait to play the market ^_^
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
April 25 2012 02:27 GMT
#6442
On April 25 2012 09:03 R0YAL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 08:38 zJayy962 wrote:
On April 25 2012 04:07 Heh_ wrote:
Didn't know about elective mode. Was wondering what the heck the previous poster was talking about. Yay now I can make my zoo witchdoctor!

The gems seem to contribute so much to the stat pool. Although in D2 there are items/rune words that contribute a ridiculous amount of stats, they seem minor compared to what D3 is poised to offer. I never played D2 (ridiculously) long enough to boost my stats way beyond the initial stat allocation.


Can anyone post a source of how gems contribute to stat pool? The gems that I see on the diablo 3 site don't show +stats =(

Here are Rank 14 gems:
Amethyst - http://diablonut.incgamers.com/item/radiant-star-amethyst2
Emerald - http://diablonut.incgamers.com/item/radiant-star-emerald
Ruby - http://diablonut.incgamers.com/item/radiant-star-ruby2
Topaz - http://diablonut.incgamers.com/item/radiant-star-topaz2

Note that there are only three types of gear that can not be socketed. This can be checked by using the filter in the AH and looking for "Has Sockets." The three gear types consist of boots, gloves, and shoulders.

And yes, rings and amulets can have sockets, which is pretty badass ^^


Should show level 6-8 gems, they are more representative than level 14 if what is known about gems is true.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
April 25 2012 03:02 GMT
#6443
On April 25 2012 11:27 rezoacken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 09:03 R0YAL wrote:
On April 25 2012 08:38 zJayy962 wrote:
On April 25 2012 04:07 Heh_ wrote:
Didn't know about elective mode. Was wondering what the heck the previous poster was talking about. Yay now I can make my zoo witchdoctor!

The gems seem to contribute so much to the stat pool. Although in D2 there are items/rune words that contribute a ridiculous amount of stats, they seem minor compared to what D3 is poised to offer. I never played D2 (ridiculously) long enough to boost my stats way beyond the initial stat allocation.


Can anyone post a source of how gems contribute to stat pool? The gems that I see on the diablo 3 site don't show +stats =(

Here are Rank 14 gems:
Amethyst - http://diablonut.incgamers.com/item/radiant-star-amethyst2
Emerald - http://diablonut.incgamers.com/item/radiant-star-emerald
Ruby - http://diablonut.incgamers.com/item/radiant-star-ruby2
Topaz - http://diablonut.incgamers.com/item/radiant-star-topaz2

Note that there are only three types of gear that can not be socketed. This can be checked by using the filter in the AH and looking for "Has Sockets." The three gear types consist of boots, gloves, and shoulders.

And yes, rings and amulets can have sockets, which is pretty badass ^^


Should show level 6-8 gems, they are more representative than level 14 if what is known about gems is true.


Here is full list. There are a lot of duplicates though, just so you know in advance.
http://diablonut.incgamers.com/item-list/gem
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
TheRealDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
United States213 Posts
April 25 2012 03:26 GMT
#6444
Just pre-ordered today! Oh man I can't wait. I wonder how good the story will be.
"They claim that we violent. We named after Tyrants. This revolution won't be televised we keep it silent."
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
April 25 2012 06:51 GMT
#6445
On April 25 2012 10:38 KillerSOS wrote:
Anyone else super excited for the auction house? I can't wait to play the market ^_^


It'll be interesting to see whether or not we'll have a similar level of market complexity as we had/have in WoW. It'll take a while until common prices and values are established, despite gold values for crafting and sales setting a certain standard. And then there's the thousands of players waiting to do just the same, plus the professional gold farmers / item sellers who certainly have already set up their infrastructure and are waiting for release.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
April 25 2012 09:17 GMT
#6446
Yeah, I am a little afraid that the Chinese gold farmers will wreck the auction house
"Yeah buddy"
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
April 25 2012 09:39 GMT
#6447
On April 25 2012 18:17 Ramong wrote:
Yeah, I am a little afraid that the Chinese gold farmers will wreck the auction house

Auction houses are regional, so I don't think we'll have to fear them.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
April 25 2012 10:14 GMT
#6448
On April 25 2012 18:39 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 18:17 Ramong wrote:
Yeah, I am a little afraid that the Chinese gold farmers will wreck the auction house

Auction houses are regional, so I don't think we'll have to fear them.


Wouldn't be so sure. Even if they can't find a way to circumvent the regional locks (and I'm sure they will), there's always "regional" gold farmers. Gold farmers / professional item sellers will exist in every region.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
April 25 2012 13:01 GMT
#6449
On April 25 2012 18:39 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 18:17 Ramong wrote:
Yeah, I am a little afraid that the Chinese gold farmers will wreck the auction house

Auction houses are regional, so I don't think we'll have to fear them.


Exactly my expectation, they may not be chinese but there will be people devoting alot of time to making money off of the auction house. Anyone casually playing D3 or even seriously playing D3 won't make anything off the action house I expect.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
pure_protoss
Profile Joined April 2011
152 Posts
April 25 2012 13:51 GMT
#6450
On April 25 2012 22:01 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 18:39 maartendq wrote:
On April 25 2012 18:17 Ramong wrote:
Yeah, I am a little afraid that the Chinese gold farmers will wreck the auction house

Auction houses are regional, so I don't think we'll have to fear them.


Exactly my expectation, they may not be chinese but there will be people devoting alot of time to making money off of the auction house. Anyone casually playing D3 or even seriously playing D3 won't make anything off the action house I expect.


I dont agree...lets say you have the items of D2 in diablo3...

You get a Arkaine's valor with 140 armor instead of your previous one of 120 armor with all the same stats...I would personnally sell the previous one for real money...then, I will buy other stuff with it untill I get a crazy strong champion. Then, every item that is less strong will be sold to the benefit of my bank account...
gugarutz
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria110 Posts
April 25 2012 14:14 GMT
#6451
On April 25 2012 22:01 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 18:39 maartendq wrote:
On April 25 2012 18:17 Ramong wrote:
Yeah, I am a little afraid that the Chinese gold farmers will wreck the auction house

Auction houses are regional, so I don't think we'll have to fear them.


Exactly my expectation, they may not be chinese but there will be people devoting alot of time to making money off of the auction house. Anyone casually playing D3 or even seriously playing D3 won't make anything off the action house I expect.


regional borders are very easy to surpass if you know how... there will be enough chinese gold farmers on eu and us.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
April 25 2012 14:34 GMT
#6452
On April 25 2012 22:51 pure_protoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 22:01 solidbebe wrote:
On April 25 2012 18:39 maartendq wrote:
On April 25 2012 18:17 Ramong wrote:
Yeah, I am a little afraid that the Chinese gold farmers will wreck the auction house

Auction houses are regional, so I don't think we'll have to fear them.


Exactly my expectation, they may not be chinese but there will be people devoting alot of time to making money off of the auction house. Anyone casually playing D3 or even seriously playing D3 won't make anything off the action house I expect.


I dont agree...lets say you have the items of D2 in diablo3...

You get a Arkaine's valor with 140 armor instead of your previous one of 120 armor with all the same stats...I would personnally sell the previous one for real money...then, I will buy other stuff with it untill I get a crazy strong champion. Then, every item that is less strong will be sold to the benefit of my bank account...


Yeah but I don't think anyone wants to buy those items, and the small amount of people that do already buy them from the devoted farmers.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
April 25 2012 15:02 GMT
#6453
Even with the AH put in place, I will still try to barter and trade without it IMO. That is too big of a part of the game for me. Negotiating with people and trading item to item was amazing in Diablo 2 and I truly loved doing it even though some of the times it was a big waste of time.
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
April 25 2012 16:02 GMT
#6454
I think making money on the AH for the casual (read non-botter) player will be a bit like winning the lottery. Most won't make much, but a few will find that amazing piece of loot that they don't want, and sell it for a decent take.

The idea floating around is that most botters/hardcore farmers will actually try to avoid the AH, and sell directly to players(basically how they do in D2 and WoW). We'll see if that works.

I'm going in with the goal of making the price of the game back over the course of a year or so. I don't know if that is a realistic expectation.
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
April 25 2012 16:31 GMT
#6455
It's amazing how many people truly believe they'll make any money at all off the auction house.

Nothing new for those who played WoW; people will (massively) play the market or at least try to. Not only can you get rich ingame, you can actually earn money! In theory. Because you'll compete with:

- professional, foreign gold/item farmers
- professional, local gold/item farmers
- professional AH "businessmen"
- AH bots
- non-professional AH players (the kind of player that dominated a specific part of the market in WoW)
- AH amateurs all trying to make a profit

Except for the random lucky drop or off-chart sale, none of us will make any sort of profit on the RMAH. Given enough time, sure, you'll eventually cash out some bucks on Paypal, but chances are that you've spent so much time it wasn't worth it. Take a look at the rates D2 items and WoW gold currently and recently went for, and then translate that into time played.

Unless you find a SoJ five hours into the game or plan on spending the majority of your time on the AH, dabbling in the market with the goal of turning profits will be an adventure into masochism and a major waste of time.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
April 25 2012 16:51 GMT
#6456
On April 26 2012 01:02 HardlyNever wrote:
I think making money on the AH for the casual (read non-botter) player will be a bit like winning the lottery. Most won't make much, but a few will find that amazing piece of loot that they don't want, and sell it for a decent take.

The idea floating around is that most botters/hardcore farmers will actually try to avoid the AH, and sell directly to players(basically how they do in D2 and WoW). We'll see if that works.

I'm going in with the goal of making the price of the game back over the course of a year or so. I don't know if that is a realistic expectation.


I think that is a nearly impossible goal.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Kaesebrot
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany128 Posts
April 25 2012 17:22 GMT
#6457
EU gets to play 9hrs before USA. HAHAHAHA Blizzard knows how to handle their fans.
pure_protoss
Profile Joined April 2011
152 Posts
April 25 2012 17:27 GMT
#6458
On April 26 2012 01:51 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 01:02 HardlyNever wrote:
I think making money on the AH for the casual (read non-botter) player will be a bit like winning the lottery. Most won't make much, but a few will find that amazing piece of loot that they don't want, and sell it for a decent take.

The idea floating around is that most botters/hardcore farmers will actually try to avoid the AH, and sell directly to players(basically how they do in D2 and WoW). We'll see if that works.

I'm going in with the goal of making the price of the game back over the course of a year or so. I don't know if that is a realistic expectation.


I think that is a nearly impossible goal.


I have the exact same objective...I no I believe it will be very easy in fact...I do not understand why people think you will not make any money from the game...

Let's look at LoL...most people pay for skins that doesnt even affect the game play. Therefore, people will pay for easy gear...Then, if u can avoid the urge of buying items on the AH and sell for money the items you do not want, you will make money. Even if it is not much money, you will still earn some...I play this game for fun, not for living of it...

Now, if I remember correctly, an average stats Shaco could be sold around 5$ us on internet back in the days of 1.9...

I had Shaco or gaze on all my characters...(around 5-6)...now that a character can change skills very easily and you do not need 3 sorceress to exploit all skills...it means you need 3 times less items...Which means I could sell around 4 shacos/gaze I had...15 bucks right there only for the hats...and there are like 8 other pieces of equipement...
NinjaMagic
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden83 Posts
April 25 2012 17:59 GMT
#6459
Anyone know when beta be up again? have they said anything?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 18:17:14
April 25 2012 18:17 GMT
#6460
On April 25 2012 22:51 pure_protoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 22:01 solidbebe wrote:
On April 25 2012 18:39 maartendq wrote:
On April 25 2012 18:17 Ramong wrote:
Yeah, I am a little afraid that the Chinese gold farmers will wreck the auction house

Auction houses are regional, so I don't think we'll have to fear them.


Exactly my expectation, they may not be chinese but there will be people devoting alot of time to making money off of the auction house. Anyone casually playing D3 or even seriously playing D3 won't make anything off the action house I expect.


I dont agree...lets say you have the items of D2 in diablo3...

You get a Arkaine's valor with 140 armor instead of your previous one of 120 armor with all the same stats...I would personnally sell the previous one for real money...then, I will buy other stuff with it untill I get a crazy strong champion. Then, every item that is less strong will be sold to the benefit of my bank account...

Realistically, if you're only using the AH to buy new gear for your character, there's no reason to use the RMAH to do it. You'd use the normal gold AH for that, because converting to real $ is going to entail some loss in value for you (e.g. from Blizzard taking a cut of your sale).
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