EPTAdvice on itembuild? I tried the generic AP stuff and it didn't really make me do imba damage.
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Advice on itembuild? I tried the generic AP stuff and it didn't really make me do imba damage. | ||
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Vernom
Spain374 Posts
On September 21 2010 18:30 Pikachusc2 wrote: they should nerf miss fortune already..  Give survivability to miss fortune then. Miss fortune is dangerous if you dont focus her. | ||
Flicky
England2662 Posts
On September 21 2010 19:58 BluzMan wrote: Just went 1-4 with Sion for the first time. Dude looked so strong when other people played him, but now I'm somewhat dazzled because he didn't feel nearly as good. Advice on itembuild? I tried the generic AP stuff and it didn't really make me do imba damage. Doran's Ring Sheen Boots Mejai's Lich Bane Sorceror's Shoes, Mercury Treads or Ninja Tabi. Up to you. Zhonya's Ring From here you can get Banshee's or whatever else you want. Void Staff is fun. I like QWWEWQWQWRR then max Q and E. You can also max E before Q if you want. Ghost and Ignite. Once you get Sheen you can own your lane. W -> Hit opponent, Q -> Hit Opponent, Detonate -> hit will force most heroes to die or retreat. It's really easy to sit in the grass near a half health opponent. Turn on shield, Ghost up to them, stun and kill. 21/0/9 masteries I like. Imp Ghost. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
- manamune nerf (why? cause its always seen in 50 minutes pubs?), - locket change (locket nerf was already one of these changes that were good to stop the "metagame trend" but after the new trend emerged they didn't matter) - ghost nerf (people will ALWAYS have some mobility summoner spell picked, nerf ghost more so people will start taking flash over it, then you will nerf flash again and so on...) | ||
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shalafi
394 Posts
You're wrong (about "Nasus nerf inc, poppy buff"). It's a compensation because of the last-patch nerf. They removed the reservoir method, so Poppy was heavily nerfed. Before, you could heroic charge->sheen proc->devastating blow+sheen proc->paragon of demecia->sheen proc (and then, wait 2 seconds because you spent all of the reservoir). Now you have to wait 2 seconds between procs, or just hit without sheen procs. Poppy is still worse than two patches ago, even with the damage increase (she got a 240% bonus damage from sheen with that combo, no she will get a 100% bonus, maybe a 200% if there's enough delay between heroic charge and paragon of demecia, but most of the time it won't). Even worse with trinity, from 450% to 150% or 300%. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On September 21 2010 12:23 WaveofShadow wrote: http://www.youtube.com/user/RiotGamesInc#p/a/u/0/JP0A3wLfFBg New spotlight is up. While it is true that this is the first true support champion since...ever(?) I'm not sure how effective she is going to be given how squishy she is and how hard it is for her to farm. To this day I can't imagine how people played Soraka. 1) Sona's ranged, she'll get enough farm if she wants to. Can't be much harder than Ashe. 2) Did he have 9-2-16 stats at the end? More kills than any of his allies? It can't be 0-2-16 because he claims to have 20 stacks on Mejais. A pure support hero with such a high kill score? | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On September 21 2010 20:10 Flicky wrote: Doran's Ring Sheen Boots Mejai's Lich Bane Sorceror's Shoes, Mercury Treads or Ninja Tabi. Up to you. Zhonya's Ring From here you can get Banshee's or whatever else you want. Void Staff is fun. I like QWWEWQWQWRR then max Q and E. You can also max E before Q if you want. Ghost and Ignite. Once you get Sheen you can own your lane. W -> Hit opponent, Q -> Hit Opponent, Detonate -> hit will force most heroes to die or retreat. It's really easy to sit in the grass near a half health opponent. Turn on shield, Ghost up to them, stun and kill. 21/0/9 masteries I like. Imp Ghost. Ignite is not needed, Sion is a champ with a free 2nd summoner and since you will be going 9/0/21 all the time both flash, exhaust, teleport and clairvoyance are better choices than ignite. Mejai's isn't needed either but ofc it's a situational item, if you see yourself steamrolling them go ahead and take it. You will kill most people by bashing them in the face, your shield doesn't really make you an assist-bot. Glacial shroud is fantastic on sion, I get it after boots 1 most of the times, mercs will be my 3rd item and will be done by midgame. Some people get mobility's boots because the +5 doesn't fade if you get hit while your shield is on and they exploit the huge change of pace to get a couple kills on unsuspecting opponents, tbh it only works the first couple times. I like using teleport thus I don't feel the need for the mobility either. Sion's burst makes him a beastly ganker/brush camper, but unlike garen you can unleash the pain while running with ghost on. I like giving my right-clicks more damage to make sure I have something after my shield pops, especially because autoattacking champs with my ult will allow me to survive fights where otherwise I would explode. E over Q is often better, since a single CDR item equals 2 ranks on Q, and your Q is not a nuke until you have lategame AP. | ||
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
On September 21 2010 21:35 BluzMan wrote: Can sion jungle? Anything can jungle :p | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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Yiruru
Canada690 Posts
MF's bounce depends on her target and herself, but if jumps over a minion it's probably luck. | ||
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scDeluX
Canada1341 Posts
On September 21 2010 21:35 BluzMan wrote: Can sion jungle? No, but he solo's great. I play sion quite a lot and here what I do. Ghost/ignite 10/17/3 Dorans rings tabi/mercs sheen lichbane banshees zhonya lvl1 E then W over Q (when solo) W Q E then W over Q over E (when dual) PS : I played first 5s with TL yesterday and I tought 5HITCOMBO would be better lol. Unranked are suck a joke, garen, MF, amumu morg, kog all in the same team ? | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On September 21 2010 22:14 ScDeluX wrote: No, but he solo's great. I play sion quite a lot and here what I do. Ghost/ignite 10/17/3 Dorans rings tabi/mercs sheen lichbane banshees zhonya lvl1 E then W over Q (when solo) W Q E then W over Q over E (when dual) PS : I played first 5s with TL yesterday and I tought 5HITCOMBO would be better lol. Unranked are suck a joke, garen, MF, amumu morg, kog all in the same team ? lol, thats actually kinda rare that a tl premade would look so tryhard. I was just practicing my jungle mummy that game (if i am correct in the game you are talking about?). Usually its a little more silly, playing odd team comps or just supposedly 'bad' heroes (utah playing eve is amusing). Also, judge 5hit on his cho play, which is quite stellar esp in comparison to his mf (<3 u 5hit) | ||
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rredtooth
5459 Posts
On September 21 2010 13:30 Mogwai wrote: manamune was awesome.... what are you talking about?oh god, what have they done to manamune, LOL. it was barely any good already, and now it's TERRIBLE, lmao. | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On September 21 2010 21:35 BluzMan wrote: Can sion jungle? He can, just open shield and on a general note pop it on 3, but he's the best duo laner in the game (garen with a stun and does damage while being able to ghost) and he is an awesome laner in general. So yeah it's just not worth it. On September 21 2010 22:13 BlackPaladin wrote: Why would you get clairvoiance on a non-support hero............? If nobody else can bring it he has a free skill slot, it's all about personal preference. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
manamune nerf kinda bugs me, i was toying with going manamune->locket->banshee's->glacial shroud->??? on urgot, but without the nerf, manamune would give like +80 ad (which, while no small cookies is not particularly high); with the nerf, i really doubt i would have enough ad to justify such silliness. | ||
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
On September 21 2010 23:05 barbsq wrote: -.- manamune nerf kinda bugs me, i was toying with going manamune->locket->banshee's->glacial shroud->??? on urgot, but without the nerf, manamune would give like +80 ad (which, while no small cookies is not particularly high); with the nerf, i really doubt i would have enough ad to justify such silliness. its under 2000g, seems like a pretty good deal to me if u got the mana to get AD that high. why aren't they nerfing Miss Fortune yet? | ||
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Jazriel
Canada404 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 21 2010 20:35 spinesheath wrote: 2) Did he have 9-2-16 stats at the end? More kills than any of his allies? It can't be 0-2-16 because he claims to have 20 stacks on Mejais. A pure support hero with such a high kill score? Given the triple kill at the end that was done almost entirely with auto-attacks, I'm guessing that probably was a fluke. | ||
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