Also I have to agree that starting at wraiths with jungle Olaf is much better than Blue Golem as he is an easy target if the enemy team were to gank him. I usually start wraiths, mini golems, tp then blue into wolves, to wraiths, red and mini golems again. By then you should have enough for a HoG and maybe boots if you ganked and scored a kill.
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yazu
United States255 Posts
Also I have to agree that starting at wraiths with jungle Olaf is much better than Blue Golem as he is an easy target if the enemy team were to gank him. I usually start wraiths, mini golems, tp then blue into wolves, to wraiths, red and mini golems again. By then you should have enough for a HoG and maybe boots if you ganked and scored a kill. | ||
arb
Noobville17921 Posts
what do i get after RoA/MS3 boots? Rylais? | ||
WaveofShadow
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Caller's tourney should be fun though I wish I were good enough. I actually tried joining LiquidParty but not much ever seems to be going on in there.... | ||
arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On September 17 2010 08:10 WaveofShadow wrote: I wish I were good enough. I actually tried joining LiquidParty but not much ever seems to be going on in there.... join liquidparty in lower case | ||
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yazu
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On a completely unrelated note, is Malady just a bad item? I hear people making fun of those who use it on Twitch, for example, but I just tried it on Tristana and won two games in a row. What's the deal, yo? | ||
yazu
United States255 Posts
On September 17 2010 08:27 ghen wrote: That's not the problem yazu. the main chat room always has 30-60 people on at prime time. It's just some people can't join it even though it's the same name as what they type in. Hmm really? That is strange. Someone should go inform Riot of the problem, if they already aren't working on fixing it. Yea I never have that problem........ but at times it is pretty lonesome in the chat. | ||
Niton
United States2395 Posts
On September 17 2010 08:31 WaveofShadow wrote: That's weird. On a completely unrelated note, is Malady just a bad item? I hear people making fun of those who use it on Twitch, for example, but I just tried it on Tristana and won two games in a row. What's the deal, yo? Attack speed is bad on heroes that aren't Kog'maw because you'll very rarely be able to chain more than 1 or 2 attacks unless you stack attack speed, in which case you do no damage. Life leech is bad because it doesn't actually increase your damage, but you need it somewhere (Wriggles', Bloodthirster, etc) so you don't die to incidental damage. The passive is bad because you need to hit 6 times to fully stack it. a Long Sword would have given you 60 damage over those hits, where the Malady gives you only 55. Malady is an 1890 gold item that increases your single hit damage by 0 and your 2-hit damage by 5. For 85 more, you can buy a Recurve Bow and a Pickaxe and be 2/3 the way to Madred's, doing 90 more damage over the 6 hits, or for 20g more you can buy an entire Manamune, which scales amazingly with many ranged heroes. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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Attack speed is bad on heroes that aren't Kog'maw because you'll very rarely be able to chain more than 1 or 2 attacks unless you stack attack speed, in which case you do no damage. Life leech is bad because it doesn't actually increase your damage, but you need it somewhere (Wriggles', Bloodthirster, etc) so you don't die to incidental damage. The passive is bad because you need to hit 6 times to fully stack it. a Long Sword would have given you 60 damage over those hits, where the Malady gives you only 55. Malady is an 1890 gold item that increases your single hit damage by 0 and your 2-hit damage by 5. For 85 more, you can buy a Recurve Bow and a Pickaxe and be 2/3 the way to Madred's, doing 90 more damage over the 6 hits, or for 20g more you can buy an entire Manamune, which scales amazingly with many ranged heroes. Theoretically I understand what you're saying, but I find it hard to find an early-game item that offers survivability in a solo lane plus at least a little attack speed. Not to mention it lets me lane forever without having to go back. I'll try rushing madred's first and see how that goes. | ||
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BlackPaladin
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Theoretically I understand what you're saying, but I find it hard to find an early-game item that offers survivability in a solo lane plus at least a little attack speed. Not to mention it lets me lane forever without having to go back. I'll try rushing madred's first and see how that goes. Then get Starks. Starks is always better for the team. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On September 17 2010 09:38 yazu wrote: I have been reading comments about starting dorians blade as your first item on jungle Olaf, and was wondering what are the pros and cons of starting with that instead of an armor cloth to build into a HoG? i always start with cloth armor and turn it into a wriggles myself.. | ||
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