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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On September 16 2010 04:35 HazMat wrote: Dodge runes are the biggest waste ever, for me at least. They were my first runes but I don't use them on anyone. I found them to save me ALOT. And generally I heard that they couldnt be a bad choice, just good all around | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
On September 16 2010 04:34 arb wrote: So only play him if you can make good decisions almost 99% of the time? Well, a lot of people like him and think he's godly because of his crazy ability to turn "on" at any time. But he's also got the ability to turn "off" at any time and snowball the wrong way. Oddly enough because of that I feel Pantheon is more consistent, as no matter what you're pretty obnoxious just by having a global tele and are hard to kill (and have a two-second stun), especially if you go Revive Pantheon, because you can have a shit record and still be really annoying. Pantheon may have less killing power as the game goes on (whereas Kassadin tends to be reliable for a long time) but it's not like Kassadin doesn't fall off either, he's still an AP hero, and he's liable to the same pitfalls as carry Annie. It's why I'm making a point to warn that he's not some god-mode character, although he'll have games where he'll seem like the most OP thing. When it comes down to it I feel like he serves best as a connection from mid-game to late-game. Some of the nastiest team combos I've played with involved Pantheon (early game rockage) transitioning to Kassadin (mid-game lulz) into some powered late-game physical ranged DPS that gets protected by perma snare. | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
mp5plvl / mres plvl / flat armor yellows are all better choices. Nimbleness is nice and all but it procs often enough just with the dodge mastery. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
EDIT: and no, nimbleness does not proc often enough with just the 2% from masteries. I wouldn't dream of running nimbleness without a page involving dodge seals. | ||
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Pratoss
Canada201 Posts
On September 16 2010 04:39 gtrsrs wrote: the only problem with jungle eve is usually get like 3 dodges in a row before people will actually play with me what jungling route do you take on eve? | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
On September 16 2010 04:49 Mogwai wrote: Pantheon and Kass are so cute together. Remember back when HSS actually did damage and we could just both jump on like, 4 people, slow them by 50% and butcher them with a full HSS? *sigh* those were the days... EDIT: and no, nimbleness does not proc often enough with just the 2% from masteries. I wouldn't dream of running nimbleness without a page involving dodge seals. Yeah it was like when I rose through ranked together with EzPz, and TF would explode from our double nuke in half a second. And it's not like he could do squat about it cuz both Annie (Flash) and I teleport, lol. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
blue golem, wolves, go mid (leve 2) to fake a gank so mid blows their cleanse/flash, wraiths, come back to mid (level 3) get a real gank, small golems, red, gank gank gank gank gank nothing set after that | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/104/tiamatmf.jpg) edit: fuck you tapioca for ruining my wall of green | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
that is all. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
Btw any nice eu TL people wanna grp up? Im getting sick of public games where two people leave after 2 minutes like retards for no real reason.. LiquidParty is completely empty?? Where do I find people | ||
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rredtooth
5459 Posts
On September 16 2010 04:28 arb wrote: but what hero is this not true with? don't expect ezmode to success though. even dogkaiser and grandjudge get shut down against good teams with smart players. and i'm sure they worked real hard to get good at kass. the top 5 at any hero look godly (look at my #1 chogath).makes me want to play him realllly badly, just knowing if you get good with him he's amazing | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
Definitely the worst player on CLG though. Told us to 5 man push bot t3 turret while mord/ww/taric were killing our inhibitor. Took him a while to realize taric/mord/ww kill t2/t1/inhib faster than us 5 can kill t3,t2,t1 inhib. Wish I had caller instead of those pussies so me, elementz and sir brave could 3v5. | ||
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Corr
Denmark796 Posts
On September 16 2010 02:16 spinesheath wrote: Ok here's what I do as Ashe. It will probably earn you quite a few negative comments, even here on TL I doubt everyone agrees with me. But it works really well. 11/0/19 masteries, max APen, CDR, MSpd, Meditation APen quints (0-2 MSpd quints if you want) APen marks MP5/L seals flat CDR glyphs though CDR/L or a mix of those is probably fine as well. Cleanse/Ghost, maybe Cleanse/Flash. I wouldn't go without Cleanse unless you know before the game that CC won't be a problem. Skill order: WQWEWR, R > W > Q > E Start Doran's Shield or Regrowth Pendant (I recommend Regrowth for most cases) +1 HP pot. Under special circumstances you can also start with Boots +3, Longsword +1 etc. Generally you want to make sure that you can stay in lane. Take mid if possible, 1v1 top is also ok. Avoid 1v2 and 2v2 unless your laning partner is babysitting you and lets you farm. Boots1 > Brutalizer > Ghostblade > Boots of Swiftness > Brutalizer > Red Elixier > start owning Keep your Red Elixier up, and work towards Banshee's Veil / Atma's Impaler / Infinity Edge, order is situational. Against lots of assassins you might want to get a Guardian Angel instead of Atmas. Usually Banshees Veil is good to get first though. After a while you should start pumping Green Elixiers as well, especially once you finish your IE. Though many games are over way before you get that far. No Merc Treads because 65% CC is usually still enough to kill you. Either you can avoid CC/cleanse out of it, or you're dead. During battles, stay safe and spam Volley. If an enemy is out of position and low enough, activate your Ghostblade and snipe him. Ult usage requires practice and gamesense. With this build you don't have to be too conservative with it though. Make sure you don't waste it on a tank during a teamfight though. If battles last very long (enemy team is tank heavy), you will run out of mana. To prevent that, you can turn your Regrowth Pendant into a Philosopher's Stone. People will call you a newb for it, but I wouldn't care. If and when to get a Philo is very situational. You definitely don't want to cut back on Volley usage because this is the whole point of the build. And with its up to 7.0 * AD ratio it is just too awesome to be on cooldown. Don't be greedy with Ashe. Focus on farming and staying safe (use Hawkshot!). You usually can't win a 1v1. Rather let an enemy escape that could have died than die yourself when you could have escaped. Don't expect to win your lane during the laning phase without good ganks. Most solo laning champs counter Ashe pretty hard. Always toggle Q off unless you have a reason to keep it on. Dunno if this works properly, but here you should be able to look up setup: http://leaguecraft.com/builder/Ashe/fc57ae4d428102eb8754307b7a6143a1 Thanks, ill try this out. What do you suggest if I play without Cleanse though? Or should I ditch Ghost instead? | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Pakje
Belgium288 Posts
On September 16 2010 05:26 Senx wrote: Add me to EU list please, Senx is the name. I play Tristana. Btw any nice eu TL people wanna grp up? Im getting sick of public games where two people leave after 2 minutes like retards for no real reason.. LiquidParty is completely empty?? Where do I find people yes LiquidParty is most of the time empty. Most people are on liquidparty | ||
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